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That thought has crossed my mind about her going back, i just highly doubt it, but i could be wrong. She has told me many times that once her daughter is old enough she no longer has to speak to him, i once told her that if he ever moves to where she lives then it will ruin us, she said it wont. And yes, those are red flags, i just ignored them because i thought things with me and her would just click and we would live happily ever after. In reality i do believe all this is something to do with the ex and not theres someone else or she has fallen out of love, theres not much i can do now, i gave all i can, treat her the best i can, and if she chooses to live in fear and control then its her choice, that doesnt stop the hurt or me missing her, what i thought we had was real. Venting all this is also kinda helping too Randomly i used google ai for insights, basically put all hers and our story in, her texts to me, what shes posting, and it all comes down to something called vogal shutdown, probs spelt that wrong, and it all points to her ex, hectic 6 day per week work life etc. Again, theres nothing i can other than ride the pain, and i know it will last a long time
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These are the red flags you missed. I don't know how you didn't see this as a major indicator that she wasn't available to be fully present as a healthy partner to you, to be very honest. She's still far too enmeshed with this man and always has been. The fact that there is no formal marriage to dissolve yet she continues to allow him in her life like this is even worse. She could much more easily (logisitically) keep him away from her given they don't need to go through an actual divorce - yet she isn't doing that. Yet she is very attached to him. If she weren't, he wouldn't be able to cause this much emotional turmoil in her life. And given that she was never married to this man, you two could have moved well beyond the "joking" stage by now and moved closer to that sort of commitment. But it doesn't seem you had. If you're still only joking and laughing about marriage after 3 years and haven't had more concrete or serious discussions about it, it's usually because one or both parties is not convinced it's right for them. My guess in this case is that it was her holding back, not you. She is too wrapped up and not at all healed from her ex. Please brace yourself to hear news you didn't want to hear about them. I have a bad feeling you might hear that she's decided to give that another chance.
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Ive never really seen many red flags, well regarding how she treat me, always kind, loving, affectionate, but when we werent together she was controlled, the amount of times sgw has rang me crying because of what hes said or done, shes told me a million times she doesnt love him, hes even tried to get her to live with him recently, saying she can stop in the daughters room, she point blank refused, she hates him, shes shown me everything he messages so i really dont know. On the flip side it feels like shes instantly stopped loving me, and that hurts so much, left without answers, nothing to me makes sense in my head. I can only leave her alone and try move forward, its just so hard, will she contact me ever again, i dont know, but that hope needs to disappear, and quickly. Nothing feels real right now, apart from the hurt. Edit, they werent ever married, just together for 20 years, we both laughed and joked about marriage and kids many times because its what we both wanted in the end
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And quite possibly also because she isn't really ready to let go of him, either. He can be toxic and awful but she still remains married to him. That is a serious red flag. She doesn't appear to have made any real move to formally end the marriage and my sense is that it's not just due to her fear of backlash from him. I very much suspect she isn't emotionally ready to admit the marriage is over and maybe is still holding out hope that he will change. I agree with the others that I am surprised this relationship lasted 3 years. She has not treated you well here at all, that is true. But it sounds as though you need to do some reflecting about how many red flags about her you've been minimizing.
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You are probably right, but being left like this isnt nice on me, not knowing anything and just shut out like i dont matter, i dont believe for a minute she would intentionally hurt me or ghost me but its what she is doing, and theres nothing i can do apart from somehow just get through this, 3 and half weeks since her last phonr call, which wehad daily for 3 years and niw nothing, it doesnt feel normal and im still expecting her fo ring, just wished it would all go away so i can actually function
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This has nothing to do with deserving anything. She isn’t over her traumas and she isn’t ready to be in a normal, healthy relationship.
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She seemed genuinely happy, despite the ex, like planning our next holiday etc, things might have just been buildimg up inside snd shes finally cracked, as much as ive over thought things, like is there someone else, why hasnt she removed me off socials etc, this could be the reason, i just dont know, all i know is this really isnt like her but i do deserve something, not just shut out like this
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Agree, until he followed she was alot happier, maybe this is why she just crashed, its all got too much for her
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Relationships 101: 1. You can’t fix someone else’s life, they have to do it themselves. 2. Never enter a relationship with unhealthy dynamics hoping that they will eventually go away. The more surprising part is how this relationship even lasted 3 years to begin with.
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With all that ex drama it's rather surprising you got 3 years out of her.
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I fell inlove with her and wanted to give her a better life, simple as that, and deep down i hoped she would eventually pull away from the ex and be happy with me. I dont know if he has something to do with what happened, i cant get any explanation, a i know is she has suddenly shut her boyfriend out of 3 years, just like that, like i dont even matter, and that hurts
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Nope, she just gives in to him, to save arguments, she does post alot of vids abour her past trauma etc, saying how she is free from abuse and whatnot, shes told her managers at work about him too
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My goodness. You can’t have a relationship with a person who allows herself to be bullied by an ex and lives in a perpetual fear of him. Such a person needs to be in therapy until they are able to overcome the trauma. I don’t understand why you let yourself be in a 3 year relationship with someone who is clearly not at all free of her traumatic past in the first place. It absolutely doesn’t matter why she left, though I’m 99% sure it’s simply because she gave in to her fear and abuse by that man. He probably threatened her again and demanded that she breaks up with you.
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But understand that she is not an emotionally healthy partner, either. She stayed in a toxic dynamic for a long time, and allowed it to continue. Whatever threats he made, however pressured she felt - it takes two to tango. She wasn't truly ready for another relationship if her ex is this involved in her life and essentially dictates what she does. I don't doubt it's hard on her. But she also doesn't sound ready to really let go of him either and do what she needs to do to get him out of her life. Has she filed for divorce? Notified the police that he is harrassing her at work? If so, what was the outcome? If not, why not?
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She was with him for 20 years, 3 kids together, he controlled and abused her, from taking all her money to stopping her doing things, he cheated on her multiple times, 1 day sge panicked and just left abd went to her mothers, 3 hours away, this is when we met, around a year later he followd her abd moved to her area. During the time before he followed her she got a job, new friends etc, she was happy, we was happy, everytjme he wants or needs something she has to give ir it causes problems, big arguments, he threatnens her saying she cant see the kids etc or takes it out on the eldest son. This is basically daily too. After our 1st holiday abroad he saw my profile picture of us both, he found out where she worked, phoned them up and tried getting her fired, over the next 12 months things are the same, can he have, borrow, can you do this and that, if she refuses she gets abuse off him. Our recent holiday, 6 weeks ago or so, he saw a pic of us both, and instantly started messaging saying he was going to get her fired again etc, this made her cry on our 1st day of the holiday, during the holiday it was the same, can i have, can you do this etc, and she gives in etc just to save arguments. After the holiday, we was fine, daily phone calls etc, nothing seemed off, but i do remember our last phone call, she mentioned sonething about getting them a cooker, its not for him, its for the kids, then it was ill ring you later, love you... Thats the last ive heard. Also, she never posts on social media, ever, refuses to goto events incase someome tags ger in a photo, all incase he sees, even though hes blocked. Im broken inside,, so bad, 3 years just gone like that, ive gave everything and treat her the total opposite to her ex
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I'm sorry this has happened, OP. The way she has gone about this is abysmal. There is a difference between needing space in a relationship, and shutting the other person out and not communicating with them properly about it. People who do the latter are not really relationship material. Even if she circles back around, I would strongly encourage you to avoid this person. She has shown you very clearly that she is reckless with your feelings and irresponsible with your heart. You said her ex-husband still controls her - in which ways? What is the backstory there?
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My daughter refuses to forgive her older sister who is a recovering addict
Sanch62 replied to heartbrokenmom's topic in General Relationship Discussion
Yes, consider whether you're risking harm to your relationship with YD by pushing for reconciliation prior to her wedding. Be mindful of whether you're allowing concern for appearances to interfere with what is supposed to be a joyful time for YD. She doesn't need drama over her sister to permeate every aspect of her life. - Yesterday
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Partner acting as matchmaker/wingman
Sony12 replied to cnstx82's topic in Cheating, Flirting, and Jealousy
If she is going on a message board complaining about her boyfriend going out and being around other women chances are she complains about it in real life as well. The OP and her BF might not be a great match. -
Partner acting as matchmaker/wingman
ExpatInItaly replied to cnstx82's topic in Cheating, Flirting, and Jealousy
Exactly. It's just bizarre. My guess is that the boyfriend wants to get out and go for drinks more often, and claiming it's to help his buddy as a wingman is a convenient excuse. I don't necessarily think it's his own intention to meet women but I do wonder if he's missing that scene a little. Because if this were just a causal hang for drinks with his friend and this woman and not a date, why not invite your girlfriend to come along? -
Again, and at the risk of being repetitive, we've all gone through this and feel the same. Well most of us. We don't marry the first person we meet, there are lots of relationships in between and they are usually ended by one person.
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I definately feel like ive just been discarded, its not fair on me, i did everything i could and here i am, the 1 that has to suffer, what was hard for me was trusting another person after getting cheated on in 2012, she was the 1st person ive trusted, never once doubted her, and then this, i dont even know if ill be able to trust a woman again
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It happens all the time. A person wants out and the formerly most important thing in their lives with whom they shared countless special occasions is thrown away like yesterday's news. She's probably hurting, feeling some loss, and possibly even doubting her decision but it's never as bad for the dumper as they control the situation.
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Ive no clue, crazy to think the woman i trusted and fell inlove with, took on holidays, dates etc, hasnt even got the stomach to tell me its over, id even be happy at that, would hurt like but still its something, i got over a 3 year relationship before when i was younger, i was cheated on, now im older this 1 feels different, i thought she was the 1, guess not, im full of anger at the minute because it feels like she has literally ghosted me, knows its killing me and cant even say a word
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You're not the first relationship partner to be dumped, and you won't be the last. We all get through it one way or another, some sooner, some later. It may help to think back to 3 years ago before you met her. You were ok then, you'll be ok again. It may also help to consider that even she might not know why her feelings changed, sometimes it just happens, people fall out of love. Or it's nothing to do with you whatsoever and she just can't deal with life in general let alone a relationship.
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Ive thought that too, if she hadnt shared shared videos about shut downs, overwhelm etc then that could be 1 answer, i suppose ill never know, it literally could be anything and only her knows, the not removing me also plays a part, again that could mean anything, ive sent myself crazy thinking about everything, im trying to stop, its just hard
