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A few years ago I briefly dated this guy I met online. I could tell he was a catch, but basically I was emotionally unavailable bc still hung up on my toxic long term on/again off again thing w married man. I kinda just stopped responding. We never had sex. Well we finally reconnected & went on a date again. I liked him / felt I could attach to him way more than I remembered in the past. We met up somewhere that’s a fun little day trip spot & he got a hotel there, no convo about me staying w him was had / I didn’t give that impression. He wanted to split the bill for dinner which I remember about him. He hugged me good night when I was getting in my car, I lingered & then he went in for a kiss. It quickly escalated, to him grabbing my a** and fondling me, which was fine. Eventually he did invite me to stay w him saying we’d “have fun.” I reluctantly declined, saying I’m just a bit slower/more conservative w those things, and he said he remembered that about me. Well I haven’t heard from him today and we’d really seemed to vibe so WTH? I just worry about men thinking I’m just a good-time girl, so I didn’t want to give the impression I’d jump into bed w him the first time interacting w him in years.
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As soon as a guy says he's questioning his attraction to you, you boot him to the curb. You date them again, you may as well be a hamster on a wheel.
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It all comes down to communication. And when it's about sex with others, acting or not acting, constant honest communication is so vital. If you don't express your feelings/concerns, then of course she's going to think it doesn't bother you and take things further. For women in the industry the money is good, and there is notoriety, and sure it's pleasurable...for some. You just need to talk to her and make some decisions. The results may not be as bad as you imagine them...ya I get it, bringing it up, setting boundaries brings fear of ending the relationship...but why stay if it's painful.
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My boyfriend doesn't understand that I'm uncomfortable with his ex fling coming so close to us
smackie9 replied to honeyboney's topic in Cheating, Flirting, and Jealousy
He may not be cheating but he is emotionally connecting with her again just like old times...it's like they have picked up where they left off. His behaviour is being dismissed because he is continuing to interact with this person that makes you uncomfortable. The end result of it is that staying with him is damaging your well being and mental health. That means you need to get out of this relationship. The mom talk: I recommend you don't get into a relationship while you have studies. Have flings, dates, cuddle buddies, and hangouts, but don't get emotionally locked in with someone. Just not worth the hassle. -
Long: Our Connection Is Intense and Real — But He’s Still With Someone Else
Maribelle76 replied to Flickrblink's topic in Infidelity
I was involved in a 10-year-long relationship with a married man. I look back on our times fondly, but one of the main reasons I have happy memories is that I accepted the relationship for what it was. We were friends who entertained each other and helped distract each other from the boredom of everyday life. Although I was single, I actively did not want to be in a real-world relationship with him (or anyone). I have known five different people in this situation that you're in. Of those five, one went on to have a legitimate relationship. The main thing that was different was that he was the only man I know of in this situation, and he was the one actively pushing for them to be together in real life. They met at work, and even though they were both married, they instantly started spending every moment together. They had both been in marriages that were seriously failing by that point, and it was an exit affair for both of them. They moved quickly, and were divorced from their spouses within 6 months. They married about a year later, and they are still married today, although it has not been a good relationship. I do believe that they truly love each other, but they both have a lot of toxic relationship patterns and personal issues that would keep them from truly being happy with anyone. As far as all of the other or women I know in this situation, it has not been good for any of them. One of my friends has been in an on-off affair with a man for over 20 years. She's been so obsessed with him that she spent her 30s and 40s waiting for him to leave his wife. He did actually divorce his wife at one point, but instead of making it legitimate with my friend, he moved a younger woman into his house to live with him for 6 months. After he kicked that girl out, while still having an affair with my friend, he ended up remarrying his wife. For some reason, my friend still believes that someday they will be together, although when they had the opportunity, he did not choose her. He just keeps moving the goal posts. When the kids grew up and left the house, then he said he needed to stay with his wife because of the house payment. Then they sold the house and moved to a smaller place, and he said he needed to stay with his wife so she could have health insurance. Then she got a job at a good company with good insurance, and now I'm not really sure what excuse he tells my friend anymore. This was the same situation with the other three women I know. They were fiercely devoted to their lovers and swear that they have a connection with each other that nobody else has ever experienced. The men all say that their wives are and sexually neglectful. At least two of them have gotten their wives pregnant during the time they were involved with the mistresses. Other than my one friend who is still chasing this guy 20 years later, the other three women eventually gave up. Sadly, my friend missed out on the opportunity to get married and have children on her own because she has been so mentally fixated on this guy. He announced recently that after he retires in January, he and his wife are moving away, so maybe that will finally end her obsession with him. Beyond the nature of an affair, it seems like your relationship might not be very practical. You have a very young child with your ex, and it sounds like your affair partner lives a distance away. That means if you want your son's father to be involved in his life on a regular basis, your boyfriend will have to move here. I think getting a guy to leave his wife would be hard enough, but also getting him to uproot to another city is pretty much impossible. It doesn't even sound like your AP could be a fun and exciting side adventure since he wants to control your behavior. If you do have some sort of game plan for how you two could be together taking into consideration the legal ramifications of residency dictated by parenting plan, it's probably time to test and see how serious he is. If you want to know if he is serious about you, tell him that you are ready to settle down with somebody now. Tell him that you would prefer it would be him, if that is unrealistic now, it is time to move on. Then break up with him and block all contact. If he is serious, he will realize that you are serious, and he will not take any chances on losing you. He will make it happen. Because one thing I've learned is that when a man really truly loves a woman, he will do whatever he can to make sure she is in his life. If he divorces his wife and seeks you out, you will know that he was serious about being with you. If he does not and he just comes up with more excuses, you will know that he was not serious about it. Good luck, and I hope it works out in the way that is best for you and your child in the long way. -
OK whatever the case, your husband is projecting IMO. Even tho nothing has changed in your behaviour, he's decides something is up with you because he possibly is a cheater himself. -
Why would she contact me after six-and-a-half years?
smackie9 replied to Trail Blazer's topic in Cheating, Flirting, and Jealousy
Even the first time....I had moved on already and they were a distant memory. I just set a boundary for myself for self preservation to ignored them. -
They wouldn't have no. He told you after 4 dates he wasn't into it. That's where it should have ended because that was a reflectionon of his true feelings.
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I know I have overlook or ignored signs that he not fully invest and will eventually want to break up again. I guess I was hoping that he would change his mind. That’s feelings can grow the longer we spend together. When he came back after the break up and want to date again, I agree but was being very cautious. He put in effort of texting me everyday, calling me every night before bed to talk until we fall asleep, and take me out on dates, being caring and attentive made me thought that he changed and maybe he does like me since he putting in efforts. That’s where I guess my feelings grew for him even more. A lot of confusing things happened during the time I was dating him. It made me feel confuse and conflicted. When we broke up for good, I do accepted it because I don’t want to be with someone who doesn’t fully like me either. I just feel sad knowing I stressed him out during dating and regret I didn’t try harder to plan dates and spend time with him. Part of me just wonder if I tried harder to not stress him out, would things turn out differently.
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With respect, you seem to be re-writing history in your mind. Your first post about this break-up paints a very different picture, one of a man who's never been that keen and went along with things rather than demonstrating true interest of his own volitiion. It seems you can't accept that people sometimes change their minds, and he was never really as into this as you were. He should not have continued seeing you if he knew he wasn't that into you, no. But this is why you need to do a better job of looking out for yourself, too. You introduced this man to your parents after he'd already broken up with you once. That was not smart on your part. He told you on your fourth date that he wasn't really into you. You needed to walk away then, not double-down in your efforts to keep him around. It nearly never ends well, as you're seeing. I don't quite understand how you thought things were good, given the entire backstory here. You were (and still are) in quite a lot of denial about your connection to him. He's been showing signs all along that he wasn't going to stick around. You were simply not wanting to see those signs.
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He didn't continue to pursue you.....he actually broke up with you early on. Then at around 2 months in, he confessed he was still struggling to be attracted. Yes, he did nice things for you, but him being unable to find the right level of attraction never really went away. This should have ended when he said that he still wasn't attracted the second time.
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I think I’m just really upset. If he felt no attraction towards me then why continue dating me and only let me know months later. Why tell me he likes me after our second date and continue to pursue me. Showing me he was interested, continuous texting, calling and taking me out on dates. When we together it felt nice and everything felt good. I think I’m just really upset, more on myself for like him too much and too quick. I let my wall down too early and end up being heartbroken. I just feel dumb for thinking we were good.
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When the excuses don't add up to why a person doesn't want to be with you the answer is simple. He's just not feeling you in the way that matters to him and there is literally nothing you can do to change this. You should have ended it with him the moment he told you he didn't feel a spark for you. What he's looking for is passion and he isn't feeling it with you. Let him go so you can find a man who does.
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I don't know if it's beneficial to be analyzing a third party relationship where neither party is even here. It's like responding to hearsay of hearsay of hearsay (you saying what she says about what her husband says)... Is that even useful? That being said, there are lots of possibilities here. One is that he doesn't want the same things she does (e.g. kids) but she pushed her own desires on him and he caved in because he doesn't have strong boundaries. Another is that, like you said, she doesn't believe that she deserves a more compatible partner because she has low self esteem. Or it could be both, or neither, or there's something going on in their relationship that we don't even know about.
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This is a lot of analysis for a 3 month long relationship. Why are you even so invested in this? Why are you jumping through so many mental hoops to try and explain this to yourself? The early dating stages are precisely for determining whether or not you feel chemistry between the two of you. You can't know for sure that they are the right person for you so early on... But you can definitely know that they are the WRONG person. Once you know that they are wrong, what's the point in dragging things out? He's doing the right thing IMO. If he doesn't feel it, he doesn't feel it. Far better that he be honest with you now than string you along. Also stop twisting yourself into pretzels trying to figure out "what's wrong with you" - it's very possible that nothing is wrong (except for the fact that you seem to get attached very very quickly), you just don't have chemistry together.
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Strong feelings for coworker - what should I do?
ExpatInItaly replied to rubyday9978's topic in General Relationship Discussion
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Is is the primrary reason didn't work out. It's not something that can be "overcome."
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It’s not an issue, it’s the issue. What do you mean “overcome”? Gain attraction over time? That’s not possible. Either you feel it, or you don’t. He doesn’t, and he won’t. Or do you mean stay with you despite not being attracted to you? Maybe he’d do it for whatever wrong reason, but why would you want to be with a man who isn’t attracted to you? It’s very humiliating and it would never make you truly happy. One more time, no.
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Some people are just gronks, (lacking self-awareness and emotional depth, unaware of the feelings and boundaries of others), and if you're a sensitive and kind person in a family of gronks, you're in trouble.
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I understand attraction or he didn’t feel the spark is an issue, but he still wanted to date me so I thought it something he can overcome. But maybe it was my indecisive that drove him away. I regret a lot not trying harder or plan more dates instead of leaving it for him to do. I wish I knew it stressed him out, I would have help or take over and do it on my own. I can’t stop blaming myself for this break up. He even made a comment that I should have try harder, but I stayed the same the whole time. It really hit hard when I heard that comment.
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I can't find anyone, I feel lonely, do you think talking to AI it could be useful?
mario_C replied to PensadorDeMedianoche's topic in Dating
You know AI chatbots have led to at least one suicide, right? They absolutely must not be trusted with your mental health. As for the AI virtual friend/lover thing....I'm familiar with them, and they're entertainment, nothing more. It's a kind of sex work, like online pornography, and that has it's place, but it does hinder your ability to make friends and improve your social skills. They just tell you what you want to hear: you're hot, you're so fun and interesting, boy is your schwanz huge, all that BS. Are there any resources around you to go out and meet people in a friendly, welcoming environment? Meetup, Facebook or reddit groups...are their things like Unitarian meetinghouses or a gym near where you live? You have to go do that stuff. Finding people who share your interests and working on those interests together is important. -
You don't need to feel Hey, don't be embarrassed. Mental health disorders are very common, especially temporary ones caused by external issues, (like, for instance, living with argumentative family), so don't feel like you're alone or different from other people. If you really feel you might have a problem you need to look into as soon as possible to avoid it impacting your life too much. At 17 you must be either still at school and maybe planning to continue your education, or you might even already be working, but whichever it is, if you ignore a growing problem it will eventually start to affect all areas of your life. Honestly, you have no reason to be embarrassed about reaching out for help, it takes a lot of guts to deal with things like this, and mental health professionals won't judge you, and they're bound to confidentiality so no one but you has to know that you're seeking support. Aside from that, you're displaying self-awareness and empathy, which is a good indicator that you're completely sane . I also would encourage you to talk to your brother if you can, a strong bond with a sibling can be a great source of friendship and support throughout your life.
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Oh, I understand. I'm from Mexico, and religiously speaking, I'd say I'm Christian because I believe in the God of the Bible, although I must admit I'm not someone who goes to church or follows it to the letter. I simply believe in God and in loving people. I've thought about talking to a professional, although I must admit I'm a little embarrassed, but I have no doubt that I might have some kind of disorder. I hate it when adults don't behave like adults, even though I sometimes empathize with them. It's their first time living, just like me, but they don't realize that many of their actions hurt others. My family is in another state, and honestly, I don't talk to them much, only to wish them a happy birthday. My relationship with my brother is quite good, but I feel ashamed to tell anyone what I'm feeling. In fact, that's why I'm writing this here. Thank you so much for responding to my comments; I really appreciate it
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Thank you everyone for the replies and reinforcing what I guess I already knew. I agree with you all, I made mistakes not stopping this earlier and now it's too far gone. In hindsight I was never really comfortable with her kissing other people, especially when some of them scenes were rather hot and heavy, but I told myself this is what actors do. I guess that opened the door for her to push further and I was too stupid not to shut it. I still wouldn't classify it as porn so we can agree to disagree there, as as has been said how it's classified really doesn't matter. As for doing this stuff before, well yes, we've had our fair share of adventures. We have made movies for our own viewing and one some rather risque stuff but it's always only ever been us. There had never ever been discussion of another people in our relationship. In fact when a couple we were friends with came out as swingers my wife was appalled and we distanced ourselves from them. That decision seems bizarre now given what I'm going through. So I guess where we are is that I am going to reiterate where I'm at to her and then the ball is in her court. Either she respects our relationship and me and we can move forward or she totally disrespects me and my feelings and the choice will have been made for me.
