logan415 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I met a woman online who lives in Eastern Europe and been talking online for a while. I was online US dating site OkCupid and POF for brief periods but never any luck. Dating in the US is so hard, women here have too many rules, you have to be this guy and that and look like this guy, so I had given up. I also think it has to do with me being mixed with Indian, Latin and Irish and maybe I just plain weird. I signed up on an international dating site and met the woman from Eastern Europe and we been talking online for a little over a year and now I feel it’s that time to go see her and see. I guess meeting an Eastern European woman gives me a confidence booster least I know some woman is interested in me but just not in the US. When I see US women, I’m not all into the media hype like following up the minute Kim Kardashian, or which celebrity is dating who but women are. I’m a person with background in science so conversation will be some cool science stuff. American women find the business man, or lawyer or dentist more interesting but a scientist is a no no. The European woman I met online I can talk about this stuff while American woman will probably fall asleep or walk away. I need to be a party guy, drink alcohol and get butt wild to attract American woman it seems (the bad boy). The girl I talking to does not party and don’t like clubs which is why I feel she is a match and probably why I connect better with her. I’m kind of a shy quiet person and not too on the social side. I guess even though I was born in raised in America, I guess I’m not for American women. I’m 29 years old and never dated so it sounds like I probably need to leave America for a better dating environment for me as America is too harsh. I will miss my native country but this country dating game is too much and too much BS rules, it’s just stupid. I still wonder how marriage and dating even still occur in this country. What do you guys think? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Ami1uwant Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 You could go to Eastern Europe and buy a bride....right? Link to post Share on other sites
ExpatInItaly Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 You need to very seriously consider the ramifications of living abroad. I'm an expat myself and it is not easy. You need to ask yourself a bunch of questions first: Do you speak the local language? Are you able and willing to re-train for work? What is your financial status? How will you cope with cultural differences? What are the expectations of a boyfriend or husband in the country you are interested in? Also, don't assume that all American women are as you've described. And not all European women are what you make them out to be either. You're making some sweeping generalizations, but remember that You are the common denominator. You could probably reflect on what you're doing/not doing or saying/not saying that is affecting your ability to date. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
Siquijor Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I quit dating online in my own country and went international and it's certainly something I don't regret doing. It's quite daunting meeting someone you've never met in a country you've never been to but it's also fun and exciting. You need to be very careful though and learn about the country you're travelling to first. Link to post Share on other sites
LoveRefreshed Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Girls are the same everywhere. Yes, you may have cultural differences and personality differences, but especially in America, you find women of all walks and your eastern European women aren't any different. I spent a year in Germany and travelled to Ukraine before. I know for a fact that women are women. Now, as far as doing it.. well I'd say it's an adventure and if it's love you've found, go for it. Leaving your country can be exciting if you like to experience new things. Once you get thrown into the new culture, you have no choice and you learn it. Learning the language takes dedication, but most people can speak English to some extent that allows you to get things done. Sometimes, I've not been able to understand someone, but our eye contact, body language and demeanor was enough to communicate. Best of luck! 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Tobin Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 American dating hasn't FAILED, YOU have failed. Lots of guys do quite well with American dating, if you keep striking out then the problem is with you not with the women in this country. I doubt you'll be anymore successful anywhere else. Unless you pay for it. 7 Link to post Share on other sites
Rejected Rosebud Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 It could be fun and exciting to have romance with an exotic person from far away!! :bunny: But your generalizations about American women are so farfetched that it makes me wonder how you'll do with anybody. :( There are alot of scientists in the USA - you know that right?? :confused: A whole bunch of them are women even!!! And not all of them are single and lonely either!!! :D I don't even know any girls who like drunk businessmen, anyway. I guess what I am saying is that I totally understand being fascinated by new and exotic people but the whole bit about "American women" and dating, no no no !! 5 Link to post Share on other sites
kendahke Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I hope you've been skyping/facetiming with her because you may be talking with a dude from Ghana who's catfishing for your money. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
40 Fonzarelli Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Well if it hasn't been working out, then its time for a change right? I say go for it but be prepared for anything and everything. Don't waste several more years here and have regrets of not taking action. And to say women are the same everywhere is not true. Different cultures, and most importantly different values. Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I always encourage American men who - for whatever reason - can no longer tolerate dating American women, to seek women from other countries. Best of luck to you, OP... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Tobin Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I always encourage American men who - for whatever reason - can no longer tolerate dating American women, to seek women from other countries. Do you have these types of conversations often? Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Do you have these types of conversations often? No, not personally...nor not ever, in real life. But it does appear to be a frequent topic of conversation on US-based online dating sites which have discussion boards. Ergo, I frequently encourage the men TO date overseas when they've decided American women are not their cup of tea. Seems like a win/win scenario, to me. Could even be a win/win/win scenario, if the foreign woman actually falls for the guy, too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Tobin Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Seems like a win/win scenario, to me. Could even be a win/win/win scenario, if the foreign woman actually falls for the guy, too. Not getting the third "win" unless you meant to say that TWO foreign women fall for the guy and for each other. Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Not getting the third "win" unless you meant to say that TWO foreign women fall for the guy and for each other. The [uS-based] man wins (#1), as he's now found someone with whom he feels compatible. The foreign-based woman wins (#3), as she's now found someone with whom she feels compatible. The [uS-based] women win (#2), as (presumably) he'll be too busy to continue to tell us how awful/wicked/horrible we are...while online or while sitting on a meet-and-greet with him, sipping coffee. Truly, I see no downside in encouraging American men to date overseas, once they've determined that's what's best for them. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
SawtoothMars Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 (edited) No, not personally...nor not ever, in real life. But it does appear to be a frequent topic of conversation on US-based online dating sites which have discussion boards. Ergo, I frequently encourage the men TO date overseas when they've decided American women are not their cup of tea. Seems like a win/win scenario, to me. Could even be a win/win/win scenario, if the foreign woman actually falls for the guy, too. I run into questions about this frequently in real life. The men who struggle the most seem to be somewhere on the autism scale. Women very rarely suffer from this disease and treat the near 1 in 30 men who have it like crap. There is a very big cultural difference between women here and elsewhere. A lot of it has to do with life expectations. Of course this all exists in a realm of percentages. Edited September 20, 2015 by a LoveShack.org Moderator inflammatory~T Link to post Share on other sites
Siquijor Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 American dating hasn't FAILED, YOU have failed. Lots of guys do quite well with American dating, if you keep striking out then the problem is with you not with the women in this country. I doubt you'll be anymore successful anywhere else. Unless you pay for it. I totally disagree. The OP has only failed when he goes through the whole of his life without having loved a partner and being loved equally in return regardless of where he looks. And that final comment of yours is very degrading to non-American women as well as being total nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites
Tobin Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 And that final comment of yours is very degrading to non-American women as well as being total nonsense. It appears that way to you because you misunderstood. Try reading it again. If you can't figure out then try this: sɹǝʞooɥ ǝɹɐ sǝıɹʇunoɔ ɹǝɥʇo uı uǝɯoʍ ʇɐɥʇ ʇou ˙ʎɹʇunoɔ sıɥʇ uı uɐɯoʍ ɐ puıɟ ʇ,uɐɔ ǝɥ ɟı ɹǝʞooɥ ɐ ʇǝb oʇ ǝʌɐɥ p,ǝɥ ʇɐɥʇ buıʎɐs sɐʍ ı Link to post Share on other sites
joystickd Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Spend time working on you. The women in the area you are in are not representative of all American women. You'll be surprised who is actually attracted to you if you work on you 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lollipopspot Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 When I see US women, I’m not all into the media hype like following up the minute Kim Kardashian, or which celebrity is dating who but women are. I’m a person with background in science so conversation will be some cool science stuff. American women find the business man, or lawyer or dentist more interesting but a scientist is a no no. The European woman I met online I can talk about this stuff while American woman will probably fall asleep or walk away... What do you guys think? Holy stereotype Batman! I don't know any women who are interested in Kim Kardashian or particularly interested in celebrities. I also have a background in science and try to surround myself with intelligent people who want to contribute to society by volunteering and choosing good work. You aren't around your proper social group - work on that! Don't try to pick women up in clubs but in volunteer activities and other things that you might do that attract likeminded folks. The [uS-based] women win (#2), as (presumably) he'll be too busy to continue to tell us how awful/wicked/horrible we are... I think we'll keep hearing it. Now it will be in specific comparison to how his new foreign lady and all the ladies in her country are so much superior to Americans. The men who struggle the most seem to be somewhere on the autism scale. Women very rarely suffer from this disease and treat the near 1 in 30 men who have it like crap. By treating them like crap, do you mean that they don't have pity sex with guys who they're not attracted to (for whatever reason they're not attracted to them, which may include social awkwardness, standoffish behavior, or causing them to fear for their safety)? 4 Link to post Share on other sites
mrldii Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 ...I think we'll keep hearing it. Now it will be in specific comparison to how his new foreign lady and all the ladies in her country are so much superior to Americans... You may, very well, be correct. However, I'm going to continue to hang my hat on the fact that even the most socially-inept and socially-obtuse man would realize how hypocritical it would be to continue to post on online dating sites about how awful dating American women is when he's been *successfully* matched up with the [foreign] woman of his dreams. Hell, she may even (in broken English) inquire, "How so you still on date site when you be MY man and be loving and having the sex time now with me even?!?" 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author logan415 Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 American dating hasn't FAILED, YOU have failed. Lots of guys do quite well with American dating, if you keep striking out then the problem is with you not with the women in this country. I doubt you'll be anymore successful anywhere else. Unless you pay for it. Another typical feminist attitude "your always wrong and I'm always right." That is because the men are who do well because they want to play the dating game. I know one guy who had hard time to date her in America but he went to Europe and he got 3 dates in one week. He said you can never do that in America and unless you know how to play the game. Se in Europe you there is no game. In Europe and other places you can approach women in public say ta a bus stop and strike up a conversation and possibly get a phone number. In the US you do that you are considered a creep, desperate weirdo, or loser. Its the American dating culture, not me. A foreign woman you can take a woman out for a nice picnic date while in America women will call you a cheap ass for that. If you think America dating so great then tell me why the divorce rate is so high? Link to post Share on other sites
Author logan415 Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 You could go to Eastern Europe and buy a bride....right? There is a difference between buying a bride and marrying one. Typically mail order brides are men over 50 years wanting a 20 year old wife. I'm 29 and talking to a 21 year old so that is a big difference compared to a 50 year old man. Link to post Share on other sites
BlueBlood Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Another typical feminist attitude "your always wrong and I'm always right." That is because the men are who do well because they want to play the dating game. I know one guy who had hard time to date her in America but he went to Europe and he got 3 dates in one week. He said you can never do that in America and unless you know how to play the game. Se in Europe you there is no game. In Europe and other places you can approach women in public say ta a bus stop and strike up a conversation and possibly get a phone number. In the US you do that you are considered a creep, desperate weirdo, or loser. Its the American dating culture, not me. A foreign woman you can take a woman out for a nice picnic date while in America women will call you a cheap ass for that. If you think America dating so great then tell me why the divorce rate is so high? MAP: Divorce Rates Around The World - Business Insider The divorce rate is still high in the U.S. at 53%. But Spain, Portugal, Luxembourg, the Czech Republic, and Hungary are worse off with divorce rates higher than 60%. Belgium has the highest rate of divorce in this data set at a staggering 70%. The lowest official rate is in Chile with 3%. And all these European women aren't all just standing around hoping some American guy comes to date them. One anecdotal "I knew a guy and he got three dates" story is just that. Anecdotal and thus it proves nothing across the board. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author logan415 Posted September 18, 2015 Author Share Posted September 18, 2015 MAP: Divorce Rates Around The World - Business Insider The divorce rate is still high in the U.S. at 53%. But Spain, Portugal, Luxembourg, the Czech Republic, and Hungary are worse off with divorce rates higher than 60%. Belgium has the highest rate of divorce in this data set at a staggering 70%. The lowest official rate is in Chile with 3%. And all these European women aren't all just standing around hoping some American guy comes to date them. One anecdotal "I knew a guy and he got three dates" story is just that. Anecdotal and thus it proves nothing across the board. That is because in those countries men abuse their wife. What woman would not leave when she getting smack around. Link to post Share on other sites
BlueBlood Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 That is because in those countries men abuse their wife. What woman would not leave when she getting smack around. So: In the U.S. as women we all hate scientists and love Kim Kardashian, and in Luxembourg and Belgium they just smack their women around? Okay then. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
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