Evolution of Humans

[Rooster_DAR]

Interesting enlightenment here! She has the torso of a human and the upper body of an ape. This could be a true transitional form in action, or perhaps a missing link.

 

http://www.archaeology.org/0701/abstracts/evolution.html

[Love Hurts]

Interesting enlightenment here! She has the torso of a human and the upper body of an ape. This could be a true transitional form in action, or perhaps a missing link.

 

http://www.archaeology.org/0701/abstracts/evolution.html

 

Actually she could be a demonic freak…. As Satan and his fallen angels / demons were having sex and creating their own… God wiped them off the face of the earth.

 

Gods original plan was to be born into a clean bloodline Satan had other plans… if Satan was to destroy and corrupt the bloodline Christ would be bore of Satan.

 

Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

 

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

These fornicating [once Angels then became] Demons are now chained in darkness.

[Moai]

Interesting enlightenment here! She has the torso of a human and the upper body of an ape. This could be a true transitional form in action, or perhaps a missing link.

 

http://www.archaeology.org/0701/abstracts/evolution.html

 

By definition all forms are transitional. Man, I could go off on this thread, but I want to concentrate on the "faith" thread. Temptation is a terrible thing!

[Moai]

Actually she could be a demonic freak…. As Satan and his fallen angels / demons were having sex and creating their own… God wiped them off the face of the earth.

 

No, it is an early ancestor of humans. Not a demonic freak. There is no such thing as demons, or angels having sex with humans or anything of the sort. I am amazed that you could believe something like that, which is essentially a pagan idea.

 

What century is this, by the way? And why did demons and angels stop having sex with people?

 

Gods original plan was to be born into a clean bloodline Satan had other plans… if Satan was to destroy and corrupt the bloodline Christ would be bore of Satan.

 

So, God can make plans and Satan can thwart them. How can this be? If God is all powerful, everything Satan does must be because God lets Him, and so it is God's will that Satan do these things.

 

This is exactly what Jews believe, by the way, that Satan is not God's enemy, but His servant. If you don't buy that, then that means you have a grand total of FOUR gods, at least, in your belief system.

 

Jude 6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

 

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.

 

These fornicating [once Angels then became] Demons are now chained in darkness.

 

Oh, ok. They are chained in darkness and that is why they aren't fornicating anymore. How did they get down here to do this without God knowing in the first place? Was God elsewhere? Why did He allow the fornicating in the first place? Or do demons have free will, too?

 

How do you explain that the fossils were found nowhere near Sodom and Gommorah? Were the demons fornicating there, too, and God wiped them out but didn't bother to tell Moses about it, or what?

 

I can't believe that it is the 21st century and I am discussing demons on a thread about evolutionary biology. We're doomed.

[lovelorcet]

You don't have to worry about it... They are all chained up now.

[Love Hurts]

No, it is an early ancestor of humans. Not a demonic freak. There is no such thing as demons, or angels having sex with humans or anything of the sort. I am amazed that you could believe something like that, which is essentially a pagan idea.

 

What century is this, by the way? And why did demons and angels stop having sex with people?

 

 

 

So, God can make plans and Satan can thwart them. How can this be? If God is all powerful, everything Satan does must be because God lets Him, and so it is God's will that Satan do these things.

 

This is exactly what Jews believe, by the way, that Satan is not God's enemy, but His servant. If you don't buy that, then that means you have a grand total of FOUR gods, at least, in your belief system.

 

 

 

Oh, ok. They are chained in darkness and that is why they aren't fornicating anymore. How did they get down here to do this without God knowing in the first place? Was God elsewhere? Why did He allow the fornicating in the first place? Or do demons have free will, too?

 

How do you explain that the fossils were found nowhere near Sodom and Gommorah? Were the demons fornicating there, too, and God wiped them out but didn't bother to tell Moses about it, or what?

 

I can't believe that it is the 21st century and I am discussing demons on a thread about evolutionary biology. We're doomed.

Do you ever try to read and study the Bible?

[Moai]

Do you ever try to read and study the Bible?

 

I have read and have studied the Bible, and am doing so on another thread, as you know. I am still mystified that you would consider your response a rational explanation. Unless you are kidding, in which case I fell for it in toto.

[Love Hurts]

I have read and have studied the Bible, and am doing so on another thread, as you know. I am still mystified that you would consider your response a rational explanation. Unless you are kidding, in which case I fell for it in toto.

 

War in Heaven

Lucifers fall

Takes one third of Angelic beings with him… they follow of their own free will.

Which shows God gave Angelic beings free will just as man on earth.

There were Kings of Nations on Earth at the time of Lucifers fall they beheld him.

This is before Adam and Eve.

God created the world perfect and then it was not.

God does not create with flaws. In His eyes it was perfect and then not.

What happened to cause this world to be covered with water after it was created?

Satans fall…

Now we see fornicating Angels and know Satan had a hand in destroying the race before Adam.

 

Yes I believe it… and there is proof of a race before Adam in our museums and still today bones and fossils are being unearthed. The Bible explains it all. If you choose to say the Bible is wrong then you can believe your forefathers drug their knuckles on the ground.

[lovelorcet]

Demons pimping angels... Angels pimping demons....

 

This is of course the most obvious explanation for the fossil record...

[Rooster_DAR]

Well, I tend to believe what the fossil record is showing us as opposed to taking the words of ancient prophets and scholars who at the time lacked the knowlege the sciences of modern man. You believe in your God and religion, it's abolutely your right to. I'm just stating some facts for the people here that are interested in science and discovery.

 

I'm all about evidence, and evidence is exactly what science is finding. They aren't purposely trying to disprove God, they are simply interested in archaeology, paleontology, and science in general. There are many hominid forms that are directly related to human beings, most them died off, some of them le to apes, and others led to modern humans....at least from a fossil record perspective.

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HOMINID

: any of a family (Hominidae) of erect bipedal primate mammals comprising recent humans together with extinct ancestral and related forms

 

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[milvushina]

That little girl is the coolest biped since Lucy! Thanks for the link... Archaeology is a really good magazine btw, I used to subscribe.

 

This is so amazing! The article mentioned that even her hyoid bone was found. It looked like extant apes' hyoids. So this girl has already given clues that her species' "speech" was probably more like apes than us. AND the get to compare a juvenile afarensis to an adult. AND all kinds of new anatomy! I wonder what her skull looks like, Lucy's was pretty much fragments. Okay I'll shut up but I'm a big dork when it comes to the human fossil record! Thank you for sharing.

[Storyrider]

That little girl is the coolest biped since Lucy! Thanks for the link... Archaeology is a really good magazine btw, I used to subscribe.

 

This is so amazing! The article mentioned that even her hyoid bone was found. It looked like extant apes' hyoids. So this girl has already given clues that her species' "speech" was probably more like apes than us. AND the get to compare a juvenile afarensis to an adult. AND all kinds of new anatomy! I wonder what her skull looks like, Lucy's was pretty much fragments. Okay I'll shut up but I'm a big dork when it comes to the human fossil record! Thank you for sharing.

 

Are you an anthropologist, M?

[milvushina]

Nope, I am just a biology student. I don't keep up with reading literature like I should. But I have been extra interested in the evolution of humans and whales/dolphins for a long time. It's a great subject to learn about if you're bored. I love evolutionary theory in general, but my biggest passion is insects.

[Storyrider]

Nope, I am just a biology student. I don't keep up with reading literature like I should. But I have been extra interested in the evolution of humans and whales/dolphins for a long time. It's a great subject to learn about if you're bored. I love evolutionary theory in general, but my biggest passion is insects.

 

Groovy. There are lots of good (or bad) insects in North Texas.

[Rooster_DAR]

Nope, I am just a biology student. I don't keep up with reading literature like I should. But I have been extra interested in the evolution of humans and whales/dolphins for a long time. It's a great subject to learn about if you're bored. I love evolutionary theory in general, but my biggest passion is insects.

 

Sounds like your logic and learning is right where mine is at. If you have a discovery store where you live pickup a DVD box set called "EVOLUTION". It's 4 CD's of pure science regarding evolution, and there is a very specific segment on dolphins and whales and how they evolved from land mammals. The whole set is outstanding, and gives insight to many things I have always questioned and been interested in.

 

Ooooo...I am getting all worked up talking about it

[Rooster_DAR]

The evidence doesn't show that man evolved from apes, but modern humans along with apes evolved from another branch of afarensis (or hominid). People keep mistaking this important fact, man did not evolve from apes. Any scientists or hobbyist would be unwise to not be open to believe in anything that shows some plausible reasoning along with a little evidence.

 

This is the reason apes (especially monkeys) are genetically identical to humans. Their physiology is also nearly identical except for the pelvis and a few other minor mutations. This makes sense if you think of evolution as a huge tree with many branches expanding in all directions. Nearly all species have close relatives, and the ones that did not survive show up in the fossil record, monkeys and apes are the closest living relatives to humans.

 

I never stated that I don't believe in God, however I did state that the God we were brought up with just does not make sense, and I don't believe in that. Their very well could be a divine creator, but he/she is certainly not what our history has taught us.

 

Cheers!

[Topper]

last night I was bored flipping channels just seeing if there was anything on worth watching. I came across something and they were talking about Neanderthals. OK so I stay on the channel. Turns out this is some sort of christian Bible study program. The Preacher or whatever he was stated that it is now proven that Neanderthals never really existed. that they were simply deformed humans. Deformed as the preacher said like the elephant man john Meric. These humans were shunned by their communities and so lived in caves on their own. thus proving that the human race was not older then 6000 years old.

this is just another fine example of twisted logic taking the place of rational thought.

[sb129]

I can't believe that it is the 21st century and I am discussing demons on a thread about evolutionary biology. We're doomed.

 

With you Moai. Altho I am sure angels and demons prob had some pretty explosive sex.

 

Do you ever try to read and study the Bible?

The Bible is the most overquoted and misinterpreted book on the planet.

 

I'm all about evidence, and evidence is exactly what science is finding. They aren't purposely trying to disprove God, they are simply interested in archaeology, paleontology, and science in general. There are many hominid forms that are directly related to human beings, most them died off, some of them le to apes, and others led to modern humans....at least from a fossil record perspective.

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HOMINID

: any of a family (Hominidae) of erect bipedal primate mammals comprising recent humans together with extinct ancestral and related forms

 

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Me too Rooster. I loved anthropology and comparative anatomy when I did my degree.

There are some interesting evolutionary dental theories right now... more to do with "are people evolving with fewer teeth?"

The third molar (or wisdom tooth) is becoming less functional as the lower face gets smaller... some people are actually now not fomring any at all.

Some people think this is also to do with the fact that peoples diets are less coarse,hence the teeth wear down less, and don't drift forward as much, and thats why there is less space for them.

Apes have larger jaws, and fully functioning molars. Their teeth are very very similar to ours, and they also have baby teeth that are lost and replaced with permanent ones. Apee have bigger canine teeth than we do, but the hominid fossils show a gradual reduction in canine length, which also supports the missing link theories.

[Rooster_DAR]

With you Moai. Altho I am sure angels and demons prob had some pretty explosive sex.

 

 

The Bible is the most overquoted and misinterpreted book on the planet.

 

 

 

Me too Rooster. I loved anthropology and comparative anatomy when I did my degree.

There are some interesting evolutionary dental theories right now... more to do with "are people evolving with fewer teeth?"

The third molar (or wisdom tooth) is becoming less functional as the lower face gets smaller... some people are actually now not fomring any at all.

Some people think this is also to do with the fact that peoples diets are less coarse,hence the teeth wear down less, and don't drift forward as much, and thats why there is less space for them.

Apes have larger jaws, and fully functioning molars. Their teeth are very very similar to ours, and they also have baby teeth that are lost and replaced with permanent ones. Apee have bigger canine teeth than we do, but the hominid fossils show a gradual reduction in canine length, which also supports the missing link theories.

 

Absolutely...it's hard to pass this stuff of as anything else other other than transtional forming. I think the human race will eventually conclude that evolution of humans from a lower ancestor and perhaps a single common ancestor eventually come to light, but it will die hard with religious people. Someday our childrens children will look back at us (we'll be their ancestors) and say "What the hell where they thinking?", it's happened throughout history and it will happen in this case as well.

 

Regards,

[burning 4 revenge]

last night I was bored flipping channels just seeing if there was anything on worth watching. I came across something and they were talking about Neanderthals. OK so I stay on the channel. Turns out this is some sort of christian Bible study program. The Preacher or whatever he was stated that it is now proven that Neanderthals never really existed. that they were simply deformed humans. Deformed as the preacher said like the elephant man john Meric. These humans were shunned by their communities and so lived in caves on their own. thus proving that the human race was not older then 6000 years old.

this is just another fine example of twisted logic taking the place of rational thought.

:laugh: :lmao:

 

Misunderstood caves of ostracized elephantmen!

 

How could we have been so blind!

[Rooster_DAR]

:laugh: :lmao:

 

Misunderstood caves of ostracized elephantmen!

 

How could we have been so blind!

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Gosh.....I can't believe I could think any differently. I must repent and recant my beliefs.

 

[Topper]

Yes that TV show changed my whole life. I now Know that Neanderthals were just a bunch of misunderstood teenage mutants. I can't wait to be enlightened by Love Hurts on how the Devil was also ahead of God on this. That pesky devil how does he getaway with leading all those scientist a stay?

OK I'm out of here. Got to go down to the Natural history Museum for a prayer vigil.

[Rooster_DAR]

Yes that TV show changed my whole life. I now Know that Neanderthals were just a bunch of misunderstood teenage mutants. I can't wait to be enlightened by Love Hurts on how the Devil was also ahead of God on this. That pesky devil how does he getaway with leading all those scientist a stay?

OK I'm out of here. Got to go down to the Natural history Museum for a prayer vigil.

 

I can almost predict the next verse she is going to post.

[Topper]

Lonely bird is OK she seems to have a good heart and even if I do give her a hard time I still respect her right to believe as she does.

now on the Other hand Lovehurts is just asking for it. By the way have not seen LH post lately, whats up with that.

Maybe the devil broke the computer?

[Rooster_DAR]

Lonely bird is OK she seems to have a good heart and even if I do give her a hard time I still respect her right to believe as she does.

now on the Other hand Lovehurts is just asking for it. By the way have not seen LH post lately, whats up with that.

Maybe the devil broke the computer?

 

I agree as well, Lonely Bird is a very nice person. I don't know LH personally, but the quotes from the bible lead me to believe she is to extreme for me to get along with.

 

Maybe she feels that Satan is consuming LS so she has decided to part.

 

D'oh!