Prostitutes...

[americat]

Originally Posted by alphamale

when the dust settles, all women are prostitutes in some form or another.

 

 

Nice view of women. And when the dust settles, most men are selfish sobs who murder, rape, pillage, etc to get what they want. I guess that's why 93% of the prison population consist of men.

The audacity to call a woman who makes love to her husband a prostitute. "ALL" women.. lmfao. From what I've seen in society, there are more and more male bums who leech off of women and get sex too so they are really the prostitutes here. Women don't need you as much as you THINK to actually have to take bribes for sex. HAHA. We have our own careers now, our own lives and aren't so dependent on your pompous asses.

[alphamale]

And when the dust settles, most men are selfish sobs who murder, rape, pillage, etc to get what they want.

I would agree with that 100% AMERIKAT...

[Fiona]

I really wouldn't consider myself a prostitute, but I've used sex several times to motivate my hubby to my favor. It's not like he didn't know what I was doing, either.

[RecordProducer]

I really wouldn't consider myself a prostitute, but I've used sex several times to motivate my hubby to my favor. It's not like he didn't know what I was doing, either.

That's not even close to prostitution. He is your husband. Just like if he touched your tits while you're working is not sexual harassment, but would be if he weren't your partner.

 

I guess I just haven't reached the point in my life where I'm quite ready to throw down that much money for sex, but when you think about it, you end up paying for it in the end; I guess I still seek a bit of a thrill from the chase.

Chase? How about the fact that this woman will want to have sex with you, while a prostitute does it because you paid her? I think it's all about control and power over somebody's body. The fact that she doesn't want you is not only NOT an obstacle, but it's exciting - she doesn't want to, but she has to give it to you, because you own her temporarily. That's why hookers often get beaten up and murdered. Thta's why prostitution is the bottom of the society - because it's about enslavement and saddism.

[amerikajin]

Chase? How about the fact that this woman will want to have sex with you, while a prostitute does it because you paid her? I think it's all about control and power over somebody's body. The fact that she doesn't want you is not only NOT an obstacle, but it's exciting - she doesn't want to, but she has to give it to you, because you own her temporarily. That's why hookers often get beaten up and murdered. Thta's why prostitution is the bottom of the society - because it's about enslavement and saddism.

 

I don't think it necessarily comes down to 'enslavement'. It does for some people, yes, but not everyone. Do you think Hugh Grant wanted someone to own? Maybe he just wanted a cheap thrill - something he hadn't done before. Exploring the recesses of the human mind is a complicated assignment.

 

Hookers get murdered because prostitution is driven underground, where prostitutes are run by underworld thugs and are forced to have sex with people who are driven to the underground for their own reasons. If you were to legalize prostitution and regulate it as a business, it would be much safer for women. In fact, Nevada does this and they've never had a murdered prostitute nor an HIV transmission where prostitution has been conducted legally.

[ridingthebulls]

The fact that she doesn't want you is not only NOT an obstacle, but it's exciting - she doesn't want to, but she has to give it to you, because you own her temporarily. That's why hookers often get beaten up and murdered. Thta's why prostitution is the bottom of the society - because it's about enslavement and saddism.

 

Oh please. A hooker has a choice unless she has a pimp that will harm her if she doesn't have sex.

You can pretty much make the same argument for any occupation. A lawyer is owned temporarily for his time given and has to perform for money... but that's enslavement I guess according to you.

I guess thats where they come up with the saying, "chained to a desk" referring to office work. Not many people really want to work but HAVE TO in order to survive. I wouldn't call it enslavement though.. you have a choice to quit and move onto another occupation.

Hookers get beaten and murdered because they are easily accessible. Women get into cars with strangers. It's an easy target for crazies. Also men have a bad regard for prostitutes and sometimes in their internalized shame take it out on the woman.

[alphamale]

Thta's why prostitution is the bottom of the society - because it's about enslavement and saddism.

Not at the high end....some of Heidi Fleis's girls were making like $2,000 per nite. They lived in the high-rent district and drove BMWs.

[RecordProducer]

Oh please. A hooker has a choice unless she has a pimp that will harm her if she doesn't have sex.

You can pretty much make the same argument for any occupation. A lawyer is owned temporarily for his time given and has to perform for money... but that's enslavement I guess according to you.

I guess thats where they come up with the saying, "chained to a desk" referring to office work. Not many people really want to work but HAVE TO in order to survive. I wouldn't call it enslavement though.. you have a choice to quit and move onto another occupation.

Hookers get beaten and murdered because they are easily accessible. Women get into cars with strangers. It's an easy target for crazies. Also men have a bad regard for prostitutes and sometimes in their internalized shame take it out on the woman.

I didn't make an argument about an occupation. I made a psychological analysis of the profile of men who love prostitutes.

[RecordProducer]

I don't think it necessarily comes down to 'enslavement'. It does for some people, yes, but not everyone. Do you think Hugh Grant wanted someone to own? Maybe he just wanted a cheap thrill - something he hadn't done before. Exploring the recesses of the human mind is a complicated assignment.

 

Hookers get murdered because prostitution is driven underground, where prostitutes are run by underworld thugs and are forced to have sex with people who are driven to the underground for their own reasons. If you were to legalize prostitution and regulate it as a business, it would be much safer for women. In fact, Nevada does this and they've never had a murdered prostitute nor an HIV transmission where prostitution has been conducted legally.

Yes, I agree with everything and I meant it's about enslavement for SOME men, not everyone who ever hired a hooker.

 

About legalization, I agree in my heart that it's better for the prostitutes, but imagine your child asking you "Daddy, what are these girls selling?" And you tell them "They are selling sex." The law can't control them completely. They can sit in a shop window dressed "like sluts" and inviting potential customers. In a society like ours, I don't think anyone would like it, especially not the wives. You can isolate them though, something like the nut houses and jails... but then they will complain about discrimination.

[alphamale]

In a society like ours, I don't think anyone would like it, especially not the wives.

why? because the wives don't want to have sex with their hubby and they don't want any other woman to do him also?

[RecordProducer]

why? because the wives don't want to have sex with their hubby and they don't want any other woman to do him also?

Neahhh... you know why. I wouldn't be thrilled either and I trust my husband. Imagine the wives who have dogs as husbands.

[Scrivdog]

That's just simply not true. I'm sure there are guys out there in the fringes who do see it that way, but I suspect that's the exception. In fact when it's going on, most of the women have the psychological advantage.

 

It's all about getting sex when there is none available either at home or anywhere else. It's also maybe about indulging a fetish that the SO wouldn't be too enthused about. No need to make it any more complicated than that, because it isn't.

 

.. I think it's all about control and power over somebody's body. The fact that she doesn't want you is not only NOT an obstacle, but it's exciting - she doesn't want to, but she has to give it to you, because you own her temporarily. That's why hookers often get beaten up and murdered. Thta's why prostitution is the bottom of the society - because it's about enslavement and saddism.

[Mirror]

If your W ever finds out you've been around the block and at the corner, (and she probably will), she isn't going to want to have sex with you evenmore so than now, increasing your dependecy on the prostitutes. She might even be repulsed by the idea. (I would) You sound desperate for sex, and we all know desperation isn't attractive. The more you sleep around, the higher the chance that you catch an STD, then you're really going to have to sleep with prostitutes, because no one else wants to have sex with an infected person. Remember most STD's don't show symptons; and wearing armor each battle is not 100% effective all the time. I suggest you get tested too. You wouldn't want to bring anything home.

[Fiona]

Everybody keeps talking about STD. Is it really true that a hooker poses a higher risk? How many young women will have unprotected sex with their boyfriends? Without vast discussions on how long they need to date before this happens, could she have slept with three, six, twelve men in one year? How often would she have had herself checked for STD? Prostitutes are more educated on the risks, take no exceptions in their precautions and have themselves checked every few months. I'm just wondering...

[LittleWoman12]

Everybody keeps talking about STD. Is it really true that a hooker poses a higher risk? How many young women will have unprotected sex with their boyfriends? Without vast discussions on how long they need to date before this happens, could she have slept with three, six, twelve men in one year? How often would she have had herself checked for STD? Prostitutes are more educated on the risks, take no exceptions in their precautions and have themselves checked every few months. I'm just wondering...

Wondering or thinking aloud? You sound like a prostitute.

[Sevenmack]

I Originally Posted by RecordProducer: I think it's all about control and power over somebody's body. The fact that she doesn't want you is not only NOT an obstacle, but it's exciting - she doesn't want to, but she has to give it to you, because you own her temporarily. That's why hookers often get beaten up and murdered. Thta's why prostitution is the bottom of the society - because it's about enslavement and saddism.

 

that's not true at all. Prostitution is treated lowly in society because 1) religious people who have issues dealing with sexuality, even though a prostitute is no different than an athlete in offering the body up for commerce and 2) women, who wrongly fear (based on the instincts learned in the days when men were the only source of wealth for women) that a prostitute will take away her man, the ultimate resource. The prostitute doesn't want these 'squares' and the squares don't want her.

 

All that said, infidelity is wrong. Period. Bust nuts in -- or on -- a prostitute when you're married and you're committing infidelity. That's all.

[RecordProducer]

Everybody keeps talking about STD. Is it really true that a hooker poses a higher risk? How many young women will have unprotected sex with their boyfriends? Without vast discussions on how long they need to date before this happens, could she have slept with three, six, twelve men in one year? How often would she have had herself checked for STD? Prostitutes are more educated on the risks, take no exceptions in their precautions and have themselves checked every few months. I'm just wondering...

Fiona, I don't know how educated prostitutes are, but what classifies them in the group of high risk is the fact that they have more men in one week than you've had in your whole life.

 

Wondering or thinking aloud? You sound like a prostitute.

Little Woman, according to your own confession, you ARE a prostitute. In another thread to advised a woman to become a prostitute and now you're saying that Fiona sounds like a prositute. Do you think she wouldn't be proud to tell us that she is one if she were, just like you did?

[amerikajin]

Everybody keeps talking about STD. Is it really true that a hooker poses a higher risk? How many young women will have unprotected sex with their boyfriends? Without vast discussions on how long they need to date before this happens, could she have slept with three, six, twelve men in one year? How often would she have had herself checked for STD? Prostitutes are more educated on the risks, take no exceptions in their precautions and have themselves checked every few months. I'm just wondering...

 

A regulated hooker probably poses a lower risk of STD contraction because they are tested regularly, unlike street hookers and unlike most of the rest of the population for that matter.

 

Your typical street hooker, however, probably poses a higher risk of STD's. Even if she doesn't have HIV, she could have herpes - something that, while not fatal, you never get rid of.

[1DeadB]

Hey, let's face it, prostitution isn't going any where. There is a need they fill in our society. When one of the guys I see regularly wants more than I or his SO will give, who am I to blame him for paying for something with no ties. It keeps a smile on his face.

[alphamale]

Fiona, I don't know how educated prostitutes are, but what classifies them in the group of high risk is the fact that they have more men in one week than you've had in your whole life.

so what! these womens are making their own money and taking care of themselves. The are independent entreprenuers and businesswomen.

 

You want to take this away from them and put them back in stone age where they need to depend up man for food and shelter and whatever.

 

These hookers are more progressive than some fat lazy woman who lives off her husband

[1DeadB]

so what! these womens are making their own money and taking care of themselves. The are independent entreprenuers and businesswomen.

 

You want to take this away from them and put them back in stone age where they need to depend up man for food and shelter and whatever.

 

These hookers are more progressive than some fat lazy woman who lives off her husband

 

Amen to that...maybe they would have to become record producers?

[alphamale]

Amen to that...maybe they would have to become record producers?

I don't know 1DB but everyone wants to "save" the hookers....both men and women want to save them from their lifestyle. These hookers have chosen their life (for whatever reason) and they should be left alone. Stop trying to save them. Leave them alone. Hookers are people like everyone else. This is democracy....let them do what they want.

[lindya]

I've met prostitutes through my work from time to time. By and large, I liked them well enough...but they weren't the happiest, healthiest or most emancipated individuals I ever met, and I wouldn't a partner of mine to be one of the guys they were having to blow to pay that week's rent. If the prostitute was a happy, healthy, shrewd businesswoman who was in control of her own life then I might feel a bit less creeped out by it all, but I'm pretty sure I'd still be seriously pissed off about it all.

 

If one person's continually getting their rocks off elsewhere (eg by regularly visiting prostitutes) I'd imagine they're going to steadily become less and less motivated to identify and work on whatever marital difficulties led to them doing that in the first place. I can't really see it working very successfully in anything other than a blind eye "you do your thing and I'll do mine" sort of marriage.

[alphamale]

If one person's continually getting their rocks off elsewhere (eg by regularly visiting prostitutes) I'd imagine they're going to steadily become less and less motivated to identify and work on whatever marital difficulties led to them doing that in the first place.

so lets see LINDYA....marriage gets in trouble, first thing wifey does is cut of sex. Man is confused and horney. He is expected to "work it out" until wife agrees to sex again. SCREW THAT BULL**** MAN!

[Sevenmack]

Lindya writes: I've met prostitutes through my work from time to time. By and large, I liked them well enough...but they weren't the happiest, healthiest or most emancipated individuals I ever met

 

But that is also true of lawyers, accountants -- especially female accountants; they're the freakiest and yet, neediest of professional women -- and those in other positions. Prostitution has no monopoly when it comes to being populated with emotionally insecure and screwed-up people.

 

The problem isn't prostitution, but the people who come into the business, many of whom come into it because it's the best deal financially for a dropout with mouths to feed. Those people tend to have deep-seated issues anyway. If prostitution was legal, it wouldn't guarantee that the women would be mentally together, but they would be less-stigmaztized on this score compared to other professional women.