Prostitutes...

[alphamale]

when it comes down to it we're all prostitutes in one way or another. its just the pimp that differs.

[lindya]

so lets see LINDYA....marriage gets in trouble, first thing wifey does is cut of sex. Man is confused and horney. He is expected to "work it out" until wife agrees to sex again. SCREW THAT BULL**** MAN!

 

That's a strange interpretation of my post alpha, but if it helped you vent an issue or two I'm glad to be of assistance.

[LostSoul86]

Reading this makes me sad! Just because your wife isn't giving you any is no excuse at ALL to go messing around!Especially with nasty diseased prostitutes! You almost make it sound like your justified in what you're doing because your wife's lack of attention to you. If there is a problem, you BOTH need to address it and seek counseling!You've made things worse. Obviously this marriage isn't important to you, otherwise you wouldn't be messing around on her. Messing around with a prostitute shows you have no morals & no respect for yourself! If you can't even respect yourself, how can you even respect your wife? Maybe your wife already knows or at least suspects you've been messing around on her with prostitutes and that's why she refuses to sleep with you now! It really sickens me that there are people who would treat another human being as an object just for their gratification! YUCK! Prostitutes are still people too. Some of these prostitutes have sunk to a low to do what they're doing. These men use them and treat them like trash . When these prostitutes are obvious lost souls that need help!

 

The sad thing about this is that this is common in alot of men. I've read tons of stories about this happening!

[LittleWoman12]

You shouldn't stereotype prostitutes. They are not all unhappy, hungry individuals. What do you all do for a living? Wouldn't you like to enjoy what you do for a living?

 

It is the "oldest profession" isn't it? In all reality, we all work for money and will do pretty much whatever we want to earn a good buck. How many of you have slept with the boss to get a raise or something extra? Isn't that the same?

[amerikajin]

Originally Posted by alphamale

when the dust settles, all women are prostitutes in some form or another.

 

 

Nice view of women. And when the dust settles, most men are selfish sobs who murder, rape, pillage, etc to get what they want. I guess that's why 93% of the prison population consist of men.

The audacity to call a woman who makes love to her husband a prostitute. "ALL" women.. lmfao. From what I've seen in society, there are more and more male bums who leech off of women and get sex too so they are really the prostitutes here. Women don't need you as much as you THINK to actually have to take bribes for sex. HAHA. We have our own careers now, our own lives and aren't so dependent on your pompous asses.

 

I missed this earlier.

 

Actually, I am in agreement with Alpha: no surprise here. Men are hardwired to be aggressive. Rape, murder, and other forms of violent crime are the result of a man's hard-wired instinct to be aggressive gone out of control. I have often thought that if women ruled every country on earth, every city and every state, we would see war disappear almost instantly. We would see more psychological warfare, but men have it hard-wired within them to kill out of aggression; women will kill rarely, except to protect themselves and, more likely, to protect their young: a woman is extremely dangerous in that situation.

 

A theory of mine is that, assuming modern trends continue; assuming that the information age continues on its current trajectory, and more significantly, assuming that we succeed in using information as a commodity and resource, male aggression will be of less value in our society, and a female's psychological skills will be of more significant value. There could be greater gender-parity in the centuries to come because of these changes. Sooo...men, enjoy your trips to the strippers while you can. There's going to be hell to pay later!!!

[RecordProducer]

They are not all unhappy, hungry individuals. What do you all do for a living? Wouldn't you like to enjoy what you do for a living?

Are you saying that you're enjoying your job as a prostitute?

 

so what! these womens are making their own money and taking care of themselves. The are independent entreprenuers and businesswomen.

 

You want to take this away from them and put them back in stone age where they need to depend up man for food and shelter and whatever.

As usual, I don't know if your sarcasm is facetious or serious, but I enjoy it nonetheless.

 

Don't forget that many nice women are housewives and raising children in three shifts. Besides, it's better for the children to be around their mom in the first few years (although I fully support women who want to work during this period). Also don't forget that many men don't want their wives to work. My husband wants me to stay at home and be available for HIM (and also stay away from other wolves ). However, I can't endure this sitting at home anymore, especially since I don't have anyone in the US, except his hostile family. This is like a prison. I am preparing myself to start working very soon.

 

So my point is that often it's the men who make women stay at home just to break their spirit, kill their self-esteem, turn them into nagging bitches, and then complaining about wives taking half of what they have - after 10 years of marriage and three children.

 

These hookers are more progressive than some fat lazy woman who lives off her husband

Don't tell me you would rather date a prostitute than a house-wife.

 

A house-wife can start working and not be a house-wife anymore. A hooker aparently has no other ides for earning money and will always be a hooker, even when she stops "working."

[RecordProducer]

Originally Posted by alphamale

when the dust settles, all women are prostitutes in some form or another.

 

 

Nice view of women. And when the dust settles, most men are selfish sobs who murder, rape, pillage, etc to get what they want. I guess that's why 93% of the prison population consist of men.

The audacity to call a woman who makes love to her husband a prostitute. "ALL" women.. lmfao. From what I've seen in society, there are more and more male bums who leech off of women and get sex too so they are really the prostitutes here. Women don't need you as much as you THINK to actually have to take bribes for sex. HAHA. We have our own careers now, our own lives and aren't so dependent on your pompous asses.

No, no, no! You don't understand. They are not willing to prescribe the ability to support herself independently, so they want to believe that ALL that women get in life comes from men. And that's not enough humiliating, but they want to believe that the women "earn" this by manipulating the poor, sad men and prostituting themselves. Women are mean, lazy, nasty, stupid whores. Men are naive victims.

 

Of course this philosophy is not only a consequence of pain from the past, but also leads to a vicious cycle of negative events.

[LittleWoman12]

Are you saying that you're enjoying your job as a prostitute?

 

As usual, I don't know if your sarcasm is facetious or serious, but I enjoy it nonetheless.

 

Don't forget that many nice women are housewives and raising children in three shifts. Besides, it's better for the children to be around their mom in the first few years (although I fully support women who want to work during this period). Also don't forget that many men don't want their wives to work. My husband wants me to stay at home and be available for HIM (and also stay away from other wolves ). However, I can't endure this sitting at home anymore, especially since I don't have anyone in the US, except his hostile family. This is like a prison. I am preparing myself to start working very soon.

 

So my point is that often it's the men who make women stay at home just to break their spirit, kill their self-esteem, turn them into nagging bitches, and then complaining about wives taking half of what they have - after 10 years of marriage and three children.

 

Don't tell me you would rather date a prostitute than a house-wife.

 

A house-wife can start working and not be a house-wife anymore. A hooker aparently has no other ides for earning money and will always be a hooker, even when she stops "working."

Yeah, so there are more chances for him to see "other" women knowing you are home. Does he travel on business? Ever wonder what he does while away on business? You might or not be suprised.

[amerikajin]

Yeah, so there are more chances for him to see "other" women knowing you are home. Does he travel on business? Ever wonder what he does while away on business? You might or not be suprised.

 

I'm going to go off the deep end, but hear me out.

 

It should come as no surprise at all that men seek out sex on business trips -- because that's what we're born to do. The same evolutionary forces which shaped male aggression in such a way to use violence are the same forces which shaped male aggression to spread the seed. Males are the aggressive gender, and nature made us this way. It does not excuse cheating, but it makes it more understandable. I just wish we could have a discussion on this kind of thing without involving the Bible and without feminism and political correctness.

 

The reason it's immoral to "covet thy neighbor's wife" is because men used to murder other men and rape women in Biblical times, and the Bible attempted to put an end to that. Understand that the Old Testament's origins actually pre-date Moses and the Ancient Jews; the stories are oral traditions that were passed down probably from the times of the Sumerian kingdom, when people were just settling down in the region of modern day Iraq and trying to convert from hunter-gatherer tribal societies to more established, agricultural-based settlements: it was the dawn of 'civilization' as we know it. And because of the larger masses of people collecting in the same area, this meant that we were bringing large numbers of men and their individual competitive instincts with them and asking them to just get along. This couldn't have been easy, though; it made it more likely that people were going to end up getting into violent confrontations with each other, and they did, which is why the Biblical traditions began.

 

The transition had to be extremely difficult for men in particular. Male aggression, which had been shaped by the forces of evolution and adaptation to his own ruthless environment over MILLIONS of years, suddenly had to be turned off like a switch. But it was impossible. Men continued to find ways to use male aggression to their advantage, often fighting their way to the top of the community in which they lived. Up to that point, might had always made right for humans, in the same way that it force and aggression has continued to reward other species in nature. The species that survived...is the one that learned to be more aggressive. More aggressive in its use of tactical violence, and more aggressive in its attempts to spread the seed.

 

But getting back to my point, settlement and 'civilization' compelled us to find ways to moderate our genetic impulses. We began living closer together; we needed laws and order if we were to have any kind of stability which would make settlement and community development possible. The oral traditions of the Bible, which are also found in other texts such as the Epic of Gilgamesh, are a key turning point for humanity. They represent the first attempts by humans to establish an order based on laws and also unofficial laws we refer to as "morals". They are an attempt to govern conduct, based on 'right' and 'wrong'. The 'right' was essentially what people considered to be conduct that was most likely to make living in close proximity successful (i.e. being kind to your neighbor so as to preserve peace); the 'wrong' was essentially avoiding conduct that would make your neighbor want to kick your @ss (stealing his sheep, impregnating his wife and making him jealous).

 

But again, the adaptation couldn't have been easy: men were programmed for years to steal resources from other tribes; to use violence to drive others from their territory; to rape their competitors tribes' women to create more of their own offspring and to terrorize their neighbors into leaving their hunting and gathering grounds. Brutal, yes; but the evidence suggests that such brutality was clearly rewarded by God. Those who weren't brutal enough, were simply wiped out of existence.

[PussInHeels]

Im always very safe and keep everything covered at all times.

HSV and HPV (cause of cervical cancer) can be contracted in areas not covered by a condom. Just a thought. I'm not judging you for your choice to use escorts, and your wife may very well be partially responsible for the sexual tension in your marriage. But I think the more responsible thing to do is to work on your problems together without bringing other entities into the marriage. While things between the two of you are better now, without attacking the actual cause of the problem, you are only treating the symptoms of a still growing illness.

 

People go through difficult times, and no one is perfect. I don't think infidelity necessarily makes someone a cruel or evil person; however, I believe it is a manifestation of a problem in a relationship rather than a solution.

 

And while I do not agree with their profession, prostitutes have chosen (some more freely than others) an alternative means of supporting themselves. I don't think this makes them some sort of female sub-class. I do hate prostitution for the hazard it poses to public health and to the welfare of the women involved.

[amerikajin]

I do hate prostitution for the hazard it poses to public health and to the welfare of the women involved.

 

Both of which would be moot points if it were a well-regulated, legal enterprise. The available evidence proves this almost beyond the shadow of a doubt.

 

I think, here and now, women most women don't really give prostitution much thought because as it is today, prostitution is confined to the underground; it's something across town, which probably wouldn't affect them. That would change if it were ever to become legalized.

[PussInHeels]

Both of which would be moot points if it were a well-regulated, legal enterprise. The available evidence proves this almost beyond the shadow of a doubt.

 

I think, here and now, women most women don't really give prostitution much thought because as it is today, prostitution is confined to the underground; it's something across town, which probably wouldn't affect them. That would change if it were ever to become legalized.

 

Strictly enforced condom use and STD testing in addition to effective protection/asylum from physical and sexual assault would make me feel much better about prostitution, but I get the feeling that's somewhat idealistic.

[TheGrape]

Its so sad when it comes to the stage that a man is so cowardly and desperate to even consider resorting to hooking up with a prostitute because his woman can't be half arsed to perform in the bedroom.

 

If he can't handle it he should DUMP HER ARSE. Maybe he hasn't met the right woman who he's compatible with. But a prostitute- HELL NO!!!

 

Why are you so defensive against prostitutes? It's like the redneck guy sitting aroundn with his buddies, bashing homosexuals, then, as soon as he is alone, calls his gay buddy over for a roll in the hay.

 

I think maybe you might like it if you tried it. Not that I would know, but its my guess.

[TheGrape]

Everybody keeps talking about STD. Is it really true that a hooker poses a higher risk? How many young women will have unprotected sex with their boyfriends? Without vast discussions on how long they need to date before this happens, could she have slept with three, six, twelve men in one year? How often would she have had herself checked for STD? Prostitutes are more educated on the risks, take no exceptions in their precautions and have themselves checked every few months. I'm just wondering...

 

AMEN. Someone who actually has an educated, realistic view. I feel sorry for any of these gals, whose husband got drunk and slept with some other drunken gal at the bar. He is at higher risk for an STD than the gals husband who hobbies twice a week with a professional!!!

[amerikajin]

Strictly enforced condom use and STD testing in addition to effective protection/asylum from physical and sexual assault would make me feel much better about prostitution, but I get the feeling that's somewhat idealistic.

 

In Nevada they have strict testing: they have not had a single known case of HIV transmission in legalized brothels since 1986, when testing of prostitutes first began. I don't know what the statistics are on violence against women in these brothels, but I am willing to bet it is much, much lower in legal brothels than it is for women on the street. Remember that women in a legal brothel are basically independent contractors who probably either pay a fee to work in a stable or they collect a certain percentage a la franchises; street prostitutes have to fork over their money to thuggish pimps, many of whom are in and out of prisons and are tied to other underground businesses like the drug trade.

[TheGrape]

No, no, no! You don't understand. They are not willing to prescribe the ability to support herself independently, so they want to believe that ALL that women get in life comes from men. And that's not enough humiliating, but they want to believe that the women "earn" this by manipulating the poor, sad men and prostituting themselves. Women are mean, lazy, nasty, stupid whores. Men are naive victims.

 

Of course this philosophy is not only a consequence of pain from the past, but also leads to a vicious cycle of negative events.

 

This is a very naive perception of women who "sell" themselves. I happen to know, personally, a woman who is very independent, the head of a dept. in a very large corporation, and is a provider in the evenings. She supports herself, she is not on drugs or anything else, she is very sane, very intelligent, and like I said, the "boss" at her job. She chooses to do what she does. She knows what she wants. She is not mean, lazy, nasty or stupid.

[Mirror]

I just wonder if the tables were turned, and more women went to prostitutes would men say the same thing, as in "Yayy! Go prostitutes!"

 

For years, men have been saying, "Cheating is in our nature. It's natural for us to go to prostitutes/courtesans." (Like it's a genetic defect or something) but as more women cheat and catch up with the males statistically, it seems more men are now on women side with, "No, no infeldelity is wrong."

[RecordProducer]

Yeah, so there are more chances for him to see "other" women knowing you are home. Does he travel on business? Ever wonder what he does while away on business? You might or not be suprised.

My husband has never traveled on business since we got married. Soon after our wedding, he sold his company and spents all of his time either at home or next door at his brother's house. So I know for sure that he doesn't cheat.

 

However, cheating is not a matter of chance to cheat. It's a matter of morals (or lack thereof) and desire. My husband goes flying for a few hours sometimes and I NEVER question the credibility of his words. I know he would rather divorce me than cheat on me, if he weren't happy with me. He HAS divorced two women before me.

 

Why are you so defensive against prostitutes? It's like the redneck guy sitting aroundn with his buddies, bashing homosexuals, then, as soon as he is alone, calls his gay buddy over for a roll in the hay.

 

I think maybe you might like it if you tried it. Not that I would know, but its my guess.

 

AMEN. Someone who actually has an educated, realistic view. I feel sorry for any of these gals, whose husband got drunk and slept with some other drunken gal at the bar. He is at higher risk for an STD than the gals husband who hobbies twice a week with a professional!!!

 

This is a very naive perception of women who "sell" themselves. I happen to know, personally, a woman who is very independent, the head of a dept. in a very large corporation, and is a provider in the evenings. She supports herself, she is not on drugs or anything else, she is very sane, very intelligent, and like I said, the "boss" at her job. She chooses to do what she does. She knows what she wants. She is not mean, lazy, nasty or stupid.

Judging by the 3 posts you made in this thread, you're way too much into prostitutes. You either are one or like to use their service.

I just wonder if the tables were turned, and more women went to prostitutes would men say the same thing, as in "Yayy! Go prostitutes!"

 

For years, men have been saying, "Cheating is in our nature. It's natural for us to go to prostitutes/courtesans." (Like it's a genetic defect or something) but as more women cheat and catch up with the males statistically, it seems more men are now on women side with, "No, no infeldelity is wrong."

Well said. Everything is OK until it happens to you.

[Erik]

Alphmamale wrote: when the dust settles, all women are prostitutes in some form or another.

 

Working 9-5 is to some degree prostitution. You sell your time and your mind; most often The Man tells you what to think, and with modern management, he tells you what to feel too. Some like it, some hate it. Most people just clench their teeth and do it.

[Erik]

I think the big difference is the stigma attached to carnal prostitution. There'd be less junkies in the trade, if being a hooker was not social anathema.

[Fiona]

Yeah, so there are more chances for him to see "other" women knowing you are home. Does he travel on business? Ever wonder what he does while away on business? You might or not be suprised.

My Shrekky had business a few hours away. Instead of flying, he packed me in the car and drove. We had a nice dinner and show. He suggested a late night drink when we got back to the hotel.

 

The bar was full of about 30 men; not a single woman. The barmaid said it's normal, mostly all business men not wanting to be alone in their rooms. Unless your husband is gay, I doubt most of us have anything to worry about.

[RecordProducer]

Working 9-5 is to some degree prostitution. You sell your time and your mind; most often The Man tells you what to think, and with modern management, he tells you what to feel too. Some like it, some hate it. Most people just clench their teeth and do it.

Stating that selling your time and selling your body is the same is like saying that a gynecologist is molesting a woman, because he is doing the same thing as the molestors.

 

I think the big difference is the stigma attached to carnal prostitution. There'd be less junkies in the trade, if being a hooker was not social anathema.

The stigma IS attached because some of us don't feel like screwing people we don't know and love for money. You as a male can't understand that anyone who touches our body leaves a deep scar in our souls.

[PinkShorts]

Working 9-5 is to some degree prostitution. You sell your time and your mind; most often The Man tells you what to think, and with modern management, he tells you what to feel too. Some like it, some hate it. Most people just clench their teeth and do it.

 

Stating that selling your time and selling your body is the same is like saying that a gynecologist is molesting a woman, because he is doing the same thing as the molestors.

 

 

What? You are thinking that selling your body can only be done in a sexual manner.

No matter what occupation you have, you will always be under someone elses control and used for your time, which essentially means labor(body) and mind.

There are plenty of people who sell their body without actually doing the act.

Models and actors sell their body. Kissing, sex scenes, breast-touching etc in movies all done for money. EVERYONE has their price! They compartmentalize these actions from their lives using the excuse, "it's just acting". Not coming from their genuine emotions so therefore it doesn't mean anything and their partners accept it. Porno stars probably feel the same way. It means nothing to them so their husbands accept it and vice-versa. They come up with their own intimate way of sharing love that cannot be used in film with other men like kissing.

 

 

Everyone sells themselves in different ways but some just aim higher than others.

 

There are prostitutes and women in cathouses that don't mind their occupation. They see it as just another job but they get paid lots more for it. Just a matter of perspective and how one is brought up. If one thinks the vagina is the holy grail (as most women and men think), then they are likely to think as you: prostitutes are worthless and at the bottom of society.

It's nice when someone's WORTH is based on their VAGINA and not their mind or character.

[Erik]

The worst part is, that today it's rarely enough to just clench your teeth and do it, you have to smile too.

[PinkShorts]

The worst part is, that today it's rarely enough to just clench your teeth and do it, you have to smile too.

 

lol

 

Just don't break a tooth in the process