Marriage Strike By Men

[Sup]

We posted about the same time Sup, see #20 ~ we're being assiminated! According to NG, we're adpating right out of exsistence in about 150,000 years from now.

 

 

Irrelevent! We WILL Adapt! Resistance Is Futile! They Will be Assimulated!

[Gunny376]

There are so many damn lawyers, can't we just appoint/elect a bunch more and put them in the local walmarts

 

Good God, WOMAN!!!!!

 

 

We already have to go to WalMart for damn near every thing else! :mad:

[Sup]

At the time Alabama wasn't a joint-property state, (necessarsy in order for her to get half ~ since then change, I believe in 97-98.)

 

Her nitwit lawyer, put in the divorce papers that she got everything in her possession, and I got what was in my possession, and that she waviered off any right now and in the future to my military retirement and benefits.

He did this thinking that I was just some dumb Marine and didn't know the law.

 

At any rate I had just gotten back from the Gulf War, when she handed me my walking papers. I knew I didn't have much chance of getting the children, being a career Marine, just back from a year in the Gulf. The children were young, DD ~ 10, DS ~ 6.

 

LOL, everything in my possession was my personal belongings, clothes, uniforms etc.

 

I was four years out from retirement @ 20 years. The cumulative lifetime value over the sum of the years of my retirement with medical and dental bennies came to around $3/4 of a million calculated over a minimum lifetime expectancy of about 30 years, (Hell I guess I'll make it to 68?).

 

She didn't know about the $24K in re-enlistment bonuses that was invested in a Dow 10 account with AG Edwards, nor the IRA that I had started, and added to each month nor the life insurance policies with New York life.

 

Not that I didn't try to involve and inform her of it, but everytime I'd bring it up, she'd get PO'd and tell me not to bother her with all that? Or as she would put it, "Just make sure there's plenty of money in the checking account so I can go shopping!

 

Okeeedookeey!

 

She didn't want to be bothered when we were married ~ I didn't see any reason to bring it up at the divorce?

 

 

OMG!!!!! Does she know about it now? Could she go back for those investments? Good thing she didn't know then!

[melodymatters]

There are so many damn lawyers, can't we just appoint/elect a bunch more and put them in the local walmarts

 

Good God, WOMAN!!!!!

 

 

We already have to go to WalMart for damn near every thing else! :mad:

 

LOL, I ADORE you gunny ! That's my darn point : we're all there anyway, lets resolve this crap between our vision exam, grocery shopping and picking up some fishing tackle.

 

Though, I HAVE had good luck bargaining with bait shops, saying " Gee, I would SO much rather patronize a local mom and pop store, than walmart but if I can get a cast net there for $24.....? " and they usually match it !

 

ok, I digress, y'all can go back to your misogony now;)

 

and...um...Florida is a "stand your ground state" now too, and i have to say I agree with it !!!!

[Trialbyfire]

Lets just make fit simple ~ shall we.

 

We'll make marriag a five year contract with an option to renew!

lol, add in a hardship exit clause and you have a deal.

[Woggle]

Though I am happily married myself I think that men need to be very cautious before they enter into a contract like this and make sure they get a prenup. Also if your wife decides to divorce out of the blue for no reason you need to be prepared to be as ruthless as she will be. Get a good lawyer and know your rights.

[Gunny376]

OMG!!!!! Does she know about it now? Could she go back for those investments? Good thing she didn't know then!

 

I serioiusly doubt it, once the divorce was render final ~ its final. Its been seventeen years. Statue of limitations already kicked in, which in Alabamy is seven years.

 

Having done 20 in the Corps, I live a pretty Spartain lifestyle ~ not a whole lot of thrills and whistles, (I drive a 2003 loaded out Mazda Tribute ~ thing is? Its only got 16,000 miles on her) I've alredy jetted all over the world, lived all over the world on Uncle Sam's dime. If I wanted, I could hop a military flight for $25 anywhere in the world they're smokin out to, which is all over. Just have to be patient.

 

The investments is for my for-sure-enough retirement, aka when I just can't go and hold out anymore, my son and daughter, and my GS's education. I had it there for my DD and DS, but they decided they didn't want to go.

 

 

Back when she was getting child support, (800 to a grand a month) she was trading for new cars every two and half years? Now she's 52 with DHX3, living in a double wide trailer with a 30 year mortgage (the financed new appliances, furniture, land, trailer and all :laugh: :laugh: ....Cracks me up everytime I think about it! ) Good old boy she's married to ~ is about eight or nine years younger than her.

[alphamale]

Good old boy she's married to ~ is about eight or nine years younger than her.

haa ha ha what a loser!

[Gunny376]

[quote=melodymatters;1137616

 

LOL, I ADORE you gunny ! That's my darn point : we're all there anyway, lets resolve this crap between our vision exam, grocery shopping and picking up some fishing tackle.

 

DW: "You'd find the car battery, and wrenches you were looking for?

 

DH: "Yup!"

 

DW: "Well I found everything I needed, lets see shampoo, soap,plums, peaches, hand loition, .........Oh, I found some double Dutch Chocolate Ice Cream on sale that I've got a coupon for! Anything else you want or need?"

 

DH: Nope!"

 

DW: Oh look we can get our taxes done while we're here! And, look they've got a sale on No-contest divorces! Do you want to get one, while we're waiting to do our taxes?"

 

DH: Yep!

[Gunny376]

We don't call it the "stand your ground" gun law here in Alabama like ya'll do in Flordia,...................we call it the "Put Them In Tha' Ground" Gun law!

[alphamale]

I am now officially on strike against marriage. I will be making placard up tomorrow and hopefully in the picket line by Thurs.

[dropdeadlegs]

Wow, Gunny,

 

I have had conflicting thoughts throughout this thread.

I could tell stories from both the male and female perspective, some of them my own. Yet I won't.

 

I have come to the conclusion through my own experiences that marriage is not for me. I am able to commit to a man in every possible way, but why should I go the legal route? Marriage has surely benefited me in many ways, yet has cost me financially in many ways as well. I am currently afraid of the legality of marriage. I prefer to pay my own way through life and at the same time give many female benefits (cleaning, cooking, etc.) while accepting many male benefits (air in my tires, a clean car, etc.)

 

I have raised children without the benefit of child support. Not all men take their responsibility seriously. I would venture to guess that more deny their responsibility (in an attempt to punish the ex-spouse) than embrace it. It is my opinion that the children should not suffer, no matter how the marriage demised. My BF pays child support and we have had many discussions that I don't believe their "agreed upon" amount is sufficient. She hasn't expressed that he doesn't pay enough, so I accept that the value is none of my business.

 

I have been on the other side.

[melodymatters]

DW: "You'd find the car battery, and wrenches you were looking for?

 

DH: "Yup!"

 

DW: "Well I found everything I needed, lets see shampoo, soap,plums, peaches, hand loition, .........Oh, I found some double Dutch Chocolate Ice Cream on sale that I've got a coupon for! Anything else you want or need?"

 

DH: Nope!"

 

DW: Oh look we can get our taxes done while we're here! And, look they've got a sale on No-contest divorces! Do you want to get one, while we're waiting to do our taxes?"

 

DH: Yep!

 

Hahahahahahah ! well, I was thinking more along the lines of :Instead of going to the ONE county courthouse, because the ancient judge is too backed up to see you til the kids are in college anyway, your case gets assigned to "walmart judge", within two weeks. Hey, at least I'm trying to come up with ways to change the system instead of just bitching !!!

 

...and hey, lets pull a few male AND female workers in their blue smocks to sit in on the jury, and make a group jerry springer decsion on who gets what !

 

Couldn't be worse than the current state, eh ?

[melodymatters]

....not to mention : at Sams club prices ! agree in one day and it's only $69.99 !!!

[Sup]

But now that the child support time is up, she has to start woking again, huh, NO wait, lemme guess, that's the reason for the boyfriend. I hope your children havn't been poisoned towards you by your Ex, what do they think of her, if you don't mind me asking.........

[Crazy Eddie]

Wow, Gunny,

 

I have had conflicting thoughts throughout this thread.

I could tell stories from both the male and female perspective, some of them my own. Yet I won't.

 

I have come to the conclusion through my own experiences that marriage is not for me. I am able to commit to a man in every possible way, but why should I go the legal route? Marriage has surely benefited me in many ways, yet has cost me financially in many ways as well. I am currently afraid of the legality of marriage. I prefer to pay my own way through life and at the same time give many female benefits (cleaning, cooking, etc.) while accepting many male benefits (air in my tires, a clean car, etc.)

 

I have raised children without the benefit of child support. Not all men take their responsibility seriously. I would venture to guess that more deny their responsibility (in an attempt to punish the ex-spouse) than embrace it. It is my opinion that the children should not suffer, no matter how the marriage demised. My BF pays child support and we have had many discussions that I don't believe their "agreed upon" amount is sufficient. She hasn't expressed that he doesn't pay enough, so I accept that the value is none of my business.

 

I have been on the other side.

 

I've got a question for y'all.

 

If child support isn't enough, why do the moms keep such a death-grip on the kids? What's so terrible about the dad keeping the kids full-time?

 

They'll have to spend time at a babysitter's no matter what, since a divorced mom won't be able to afford to stay home with them. Lots of moms bitch that the dads don't do enough childcare, then spend lots of time and $$ in court making sure they don't carry much of that load afterwards. Lots of divorced women bitch and moan about how hard it is to be a single parent, while spending lots of time and $$ in court for the explicit purpose of getting to that point rather than letting the dad do it and give them the freedom they claim to be asking for.

 

I've even seen women indignantly say "how dare you try to take my kids away from me"... while going for full custody with the minimum possible visitation. I'm sure dear old Dad is asking himself the same question.

[Gunny376]

The way the child support deal should work is Yea, go ahead hit the non-custodial parent upside the head for up to 1/3 of their after tax income.

 

Except! Its comes out of his check at his place of work and its goes straight to the court system. Based upon housing, grocery receipts, documented light bills, ~ the basic necessities of raising children each month. The rest is held in bulk with an interest bearing account along with all the other child support collected from all the other cases.

 

Kids need braces, not a problem, just drop by the court house and set up for disbursment. Kid needs baseball uniforms, school clothes, whatever, go by the court house pickup the check ~ but there won't be any more disbursments until you bring in the signed verifiable recipts from the last one.

 

Whatever monies aren't used over the course of the life that child support is paid ~ goes to the children to pursue post HS education be it college or trade school.

 

Jr. decides, naw, I've had it with edcation ~ check plus interest goes back to the spouse that paid the child support.

 

My point is that it should be child support ~ not keepng Mama looking fine and riding in style support, while the kids are calling Daddy hitting him up for school clothes.

 

And, no doubt, I don't have to hear from you ladies about the scarifices and tribulations you've gone through without receiving a dime of support, I can walk outside my front door. I know plenty of women that are working two jobs.

 

I went inot the Corps when I was 18, and I didn't realize, just didn't know because it wasn't in my face day to day how freaking hard it is to a be a woman and find a decent job ~ even with a college degree. I know plenty of people ~ both men and women ~ with college degrees ~ that working jobs that they could have gotten without going to college. There are plenty of people with college degrees driving trucks for example ~ and I'm not talking about basketweaving and pottery making degrees either. Accounting and education.

[Pyro]

I'll pass on the marriage strike. Instead of living in fear of being hurt or taken advantage of by a woman, I am going to give marriage a try. Why should I hold back one of my desires just because of hearing about a few stories? Sure its a risk but isn't part of life taking risks? Perhaps for those of you who have been screwed in marriages you did not take the time or energy to get to know your ex H or W. Marriage is something not to be rushed in to and I plan on taking my time with it.

[Gunny376]

I'll pass on the marriage strike. Instead of living in fear of being hurt or taken advantage of by a woman, I am going to give marriage a try. Why should I hold back one of my desires just because of hearing about a few stories? Sure its a risk but isn't part of life taking risks? Perhaps for those of you who have been screwed in marriages you did not take the time or energy to get to know your ex H or W. Marriage is something not to be rushed in to and I plan on taking my time with it.

 

You are Spartian! You may pass!

[Pyro]

You are Spartian! You may pass!

 

Thanks.

 

I refuse to let fear or bitterness hold me back from living life.

[RecordProducer]

Sup, I thought you were a woman? A very backward one!

If you get married these days, It had better be God who brings together the man and woman.

Whatever that meant...

[dropdeadlegs]

I've got a question for y'all.

 

If child support isn't enough, why do the moms keep such a death-grip on the kids? What's so terrible about the dad keeping the kids full-time?

 

They'll have to spend time at a babysitter's no matter what, since a divorced mom won't be able to afford to stay home with them. Lots of moms bitch that the dads don't do enough childcare, then spend lots of time and $$ in court making sure they don't carry much of that load afterwards. Lots of divorced women bitch and moan about how hard it is to be a single parent, while spending lots of time and $$ in court for the explicit purpose of getting to that point rather than letting the dad do it and give them the freedom they claim to be asking for.

 

I've even seen women indignantly say "how dare you try to take my kids away from me"... while going for full custody with the minimum possible visitation. I'm sure dear old Dad is asking himself the same question.

In relation to my circumstances that is just too funny! My last husband didn't take his kids for more than two nights in the 18 months before he died. That's right, two nights. HE COULDN'T HANDLE THE KIDS! The one before that only paid support after three years of not paying anything. I didn't go for back pay or anything. My attorney thought I was insane or stupid, or both. He hasn't paid a dime on the remaining daughter in high school for the past 5 years either. He was fired from his job years ago. I think it was 2001. I don't care anymore. I am doing just fine without him. I didn't take any part of his 401-k in the divorce either, for that matter. When I want out, I just want out quickly. Money means nothing in comparison to my freedom from worthless men. I never denied visitation, that is up to the kids, not me. I gave up almost every holiday because he had family here and I don't.

 

I'm not trying to be defensive, it's just that you chose to quote my post and my story is quite different from the comments you posted in relation to my original post.

[Woggle]

It is very true that many women use kids as a weapon. My mother said she was tired of being a wife and mother so when she left my father he offered to take full custody of me but she refused. She wanted to bleed him dry and she refused to let him win so she got custody of me and would not let him see me for a few years. I remember one time we ran into him in public and she pulled me away from him. She did it because she just wanted to be a spiteful bitch and saw it as a war against a man. I think this is the reason many women do what they do. There is no rhyme or reason to it. Men need to realize how much women hate us and that they will use even their own children as weapons.

[Trialbyfire]

The sad reality Woggle is that many parents use children as part of their marriage battleground. Whatever happened to you, doesn't mean it happens that way in all situations. If anything, in most situations, it takes two to tango.

 

Most women don't hate men and wouldn't cannabilize their own children.

 

Now myself, I'm currently on a marriage strike so you can consider me a manhater for not wanting legal hassles ever again. Now how man-hating and bitter is that, huh?

[RecordProducer]

Men need to realize how much women hate us and that they will use even their own children as weapons.

The only one who hates here is you. You hate women because of your mother. Bitterness and many other affects remain psycho-analytically underestimated, apparently being taken for granted that their nature is self-evident. You're a school example of how hostile environment during childhood can cause emotional invalidity.