The Apostolic and Prophetic Union

[pureinheart]

THE APOSTOLIC AND PROPETIC UNION

 

God has taken me through intense training over the past few years concerning communicating with people, and how to better relate with them...there is much work needed in me, though this is not the point of this post.

 

It can be very complex studying people as there are many factors that shape the attitudes and behaviors of individuals.....not one of us is exactly the same, so therefore categorizing or stereo typing is not an effective method when counseling an individual.

 

There are certain traits though that seem to follow the various callings of God....Prophets are easy to see...they stand out like sore thumbs, lol......now am becoming very curious concerning the Apostolic....not just the "in your face" traits, but the depth.

 

This is only my observation.....so please share whatever the Lord leads, if anything. I am seeing the strengths and weaknesses of the Apostolic and Prophetic, and how those strengths and weaknesses fit together.

 

Those with the Apostolic calling have great intimacy with God, it seems to come natural to them, and the "faith" factor is much higher. The Prophetic "run" from this intimacy, and struggle greatly with faith issues.

 

When the Prophetic have "run out" of running, they can hear God 24-7 (even when in the "running" mode God is still talking, though the Prophet has great "tuning out" skills), and have conversations with Him constantly....where the Apostolic don't "hear" Him quite as much.

 

Communication....this is a biggy concerning the Apostolic and the Prophetic. I was told that spiritually the Prophet and the Apostle are a "marriage union", and it makes sense, they are opposite yet "one". The Apostle sees and communicates much different than the Prophet....the Apostle has the ability to go through many things and not be quite so effected by them. The Prophet senses everything, and is greatly affected by his/her surroundings and circumstance. The Apostolic says, "Count it all joy", and they do.....these are not just words to the Apostolic.

 

The Apostolic are very "people" orientated, yet have a harder time relating to certain "types" of people, especially with the Prophetic type. The Prophet "hides" from people more often than not, as the sensitivity level is more intense...though the Prophet has a greater ability to relate to a greater variety of issues and people.

 

These are wonderful differences as the Apostolic and the Prophetic have the ability through strengths and weaknesses to balance each other out, causing greater ability and understanding.

 

The Prophet is emotional, and the Apostle is practical......the Prophet says, “I am hurting and need to talk about these circumstances, they need to get worked out"....the Apostle says, "count it all joy, have faith, take this to God, and He will change it". The Prophet then interprets this as a lack of sensitivity and understanding, though nothing could be further from the truth......hummmmm does this sound like the husband and wife relationship?

 

Personally think God has very good reasons for the differences....the Apostolic responsibility is much different, so the equipping must be different.....no matter the calling we all have to be ready to die a natural death for our faith...though if you look at the original Apostles, didn't all but one die for their faith? Apostles don't care, their attitude is, “go ahead Satan, kill me if you can", and they laugh at the enemy, and go on about the business of God without a thought. Go ahead, throw them in jail, trust me, it will not stop nor shut the Apostle up....no quite the contrary they will just save everyone in the jail! This may be the reason for such an increase of faith concerning the Apostolic.

 

Prophets by nature are analytical; God takes the Prophet to the very depths of issues in which He chooses to use them in. The Prophet needs to know and understand the entire workings of various issues. They are extremely in tune with their surroundings. This is an emotional strain of the Prophetic, as the depth of these issues is disgusting and intolerable to the Prophet. This is the reason that many operate in anger in the beginning of "boot camp". This "understanding" can cause great distortion in the area of compassion....as God "opens" the Prophetic eye, the things "seen" are not the "rose colored" world that the Prophet would choose to see.

 

Reality is difficult for the Prophetic because they are exposed to the depths of it, this could be why Prophets are prone to over-the-counter drugs, street drugs and prescription drugs. The Prophet desires things to be "right" and in order.

 

Personally am seeing an importance for the balance between Apostolic and the Prophetic, as the coming revival, that we know WILL take place, will need balanced leaders....also the Apostolic and Prophetic are essential to each other.

 

Father let us all be open to one another, ready to learn on a moments notice. Give us all great understanding to Your purposes Father. I move any hypersensitivity concerning the Prophetic and any apathy concerning the Apostolic, and ask for balance concerning both of these essential callings, calling forth the "marriage union". I speak great communication skills, and move the rebellion, and lashing out of the Prophetic, and command the emotions to be balanced.

 

I call forth great understanding to the Apostolic, Lord bless the Apostolic, for their responsibility is great....Lord I speak great wisdom knowledge, and the total equipment of counseling and understanding skills over each and every Apostle walking this earth today, and all that will be born should we still be on this earth.

 

I speak emotional balance, and stability over the Prophetic. I cut off the enemy concerning his "assistance" in the matters and the training of God. Lord I move the melodramatic off of the Prophetic this day, and ask the Prophetic take seriously the very special relationship with You.....moving all "circus" acts. I move all effects of Hollywood, and TV off of the Prophetic, as the heighten sensitivity causes great influence of these things.

 

Father join together Your church, the church that You intended, let our intent be Your will. I call forth the Spiritual "marriage union" of the Apostolic and Prophetic to take place upon this earth in the fullness, and speak, what God has joined together let no man put asunder. I move all division concerning these callings, and ask for Your abundance to fall...in Jesus name, amen.

[Moai]

Wow.

 

Do you really spend your time thinking about things like this?

 

And isn't the Lord doing his will, whether you ask him to or not? Aren't the Apostles and Prophets doing his work by definition? What exactly was that prayer for?

[pureinheart]

Wow.

 

Do you really spend your time thinking about things like this?

 

And isn't the Lord doing his will, whether you ask him to or not? Aren't the Apostles and Prophets doing his work by definition? What exactly was that prayer for?

 

Have a good ressurection day!

[Love Hurts]

Pureinheart,

 

This is an interesting post.

Is there an in-between stage?

[pureinheart]

Pureinheart,

 

This is an interesting post.

Is there an in-between stage?

 

Hey Love Hurts, not sure what you mean by an in-between stage?

 

Is everything okay with you and your kids? The reason I ask is all day have been a little down, didn't feel good (bad thyroid day lol) so thought that was the reason....also depression didn't make sense because I've been so encouraged concerning resurrection day.

 

Then it got really bad and realized it could be a travail or deep intercession for someone....my God-mother continually tells me of "feeling" people, and if it gets real bad she'll call and ask if everything is okay.

 

Love you sis....and God Bless you!

[lonelybird]

Pureinheart,

 

This is an interesting post.

Is there an in-between stage?

Did you mean courting stage?

[Love Hurts]

Hey Love Hurts, not sure what you mean by an in-between stage?

 

Is everything okay with you and your kids? The reason I ask is all day have been a little down, didn't feel good (bad thyroid day lol) so thought that was the reason....also depression didn't make sense because I've been so encouraged concerning resurrection day.

 

Then it got really bad and realized it could be a travail or deep intercession for someone....my God-mother continually tells me of "feeling" people, and if it gets real bad she'll call and ask if everything is okay.

 

Love you sis....and God Bless you!

 

 

 

Apostolic can have a prophetic word of knowledge. Some words of knowledge are to be shared with others. Some are personal.

We know a prophet by the words they share. We may not know Apostolic is also given words of knowledge that may or may not be meant to share others...on a lesser scale of prophetic news that say the world would hunger for.

 

Example: Apostolic may given a word of knowledge over a loved one, its for that loved one and should be shared. It’s a lesser scale its not for the world.

 

Example: Apostolic may given a word of knowledge that is personal and is for no one else. It too is a word of knowledge not to be shared with the world. Again lesser scale.

 

Example: Prophetic dreams and visions, words of knowledge that are to be shared with the world say have come from say Bill Wiese or Mary K. Baxter. This is prophecy to be shared with the world.

 

In conclusion I assume there is some in-between stage of Apostolic and Prophetic … sort of the middle of the road or touching over the line on occasion.

 

Saying one may have a greater strength in one area but also has form of the other.

Some middle of. ----------------------

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On a personal note… thank you for asking of the kids Pureinheart. They can always use prayer. I never turn that down. ..lol All seem to be holding and doing what need be done as life goes. In health for the most part have been blessed with good health and is not taken for granted. As for their walk in the Lord, God uses us all in His way. I do pray they keep growing in the Lord and every experience is to edify them in Spirit and that they grow stronger through. Praise Jesus. We know each day brings something new in the Lord. Amen.

 

Your Godmother feels people. My daughter keeps having a similar dream. She was on a cruise ship and when it docked there was a place of very old beautiful villas. A style of construction she is unfamiliar with. She saw many people dressed in white all happy smiling, the feeling is of love and very peaceful. She said every time your in my dreams mom there is tall broad shouldered bald headed, black man, he wears sunglasses and is dressed in white always standing behind you. He wears a constant smile and never speaks.

 

On her dreams I consider she is seeing rapture, for the black man he may be a representative of from Old from Everlasting. To add to this the same black man in a different dream and now in a far different location the people were dressed in black....he handed her a note she read it;

“out of all these people, I am the only one that truly loves you”.

 

Listen to this dream…about 2 months ago my mother, daughter and I decided one of my sons was not behaving very Godly. It was obvious he was falling short of the Glory of God and we behind his back began to pray for him. We prayed binding Satan from him and if any evil curse be upon his head in Jesus name we demanded it flee from him in Jesus precious name. We kept praying for him…

 

One day he looked at me as he was sipping water and holding his throat with his hand.

He said mom I had a weird dream. I dreamt I was chocking and reached inside my mouth thinking it was hair I choking on… I began to pull out a hair and it kept coming and bringing more hair soon it was a large ugly hair ball gross like the hair we might find stuck the elbow of a drain pipe. Only it gets worse the hairball was covered in little tiny worms millions of them. I pulled out two such hair balls and my chocking woke me up..

He said your not going to believe this but my throat is so sore now it actually hurts.

 

I praised Jesus and told him you have been freed from something… this is a cleansing dream. You have been set free in Jesus name. Days later it was apparent truth as I saw an obvious turn around in his thinking and behavior… We Praise Jesus for the power of prayer… Glory to God Hallelujah.

 

We all need prayer all the time … Amen.

 

I Pray all gets well … is well…and stays well with you and yours in Christ Jesus. Love ya much…God Bless*

 

PS any thoughts on her dreams are desired to hear.

[Love Hurts]

Pureinheart,

 

I did a self-evaluation and I am in the middle somewhere… I know I lean on simply sharing the word of God with others… Apostolic and on occasion the Lord does reveal to me through visions, dreams or words of knowledge… and on my scale it has always been for my own or for self. So it is a lesser scale.

 

What am I called in this? I think I will call myself Apostolicmicroprophetic lol .. it kinda describes my walk in the Lord... my place in Jesus.

I am one of those that touches over the line on a lesser scale.

 

God Bless*

 

Love your way.......

[pureinheart]

Apostolic can have a prophetic word of knowledge. Some words of knowledge are to be shared with others. Some are personal.

We know a prophet by the words they share. We may not know Apostolic is also given words of knowledge that may or may not be meant to share others...on a lesser scale of prophetic news that say the world would hunger for.

 

Example: Apostolic may given a word of knowledge over a loved one, its for that loved one and should be shared. It’s a lesser scale its not for the world.

 

Example: Apostolic may given a word of knowledge that is personal and is for no one else. It too is a word of knowledge not to be shared with the world. Again lesser scale.

 

Example: Prophetic dreams and visions, words of knowledge that are to be shared with the world say have come from say Bill Wiese or Mary K. Baxter. This is prophecy to be shared with the world.

 

In conclusion I assume there is some in-between stage of Apostolic and Prophetic … sort of the middle of the road or touching over the line on occasion.

 

Saying one may have a greater strength in one area but also has form of the other.

Some middle of. ----------------------

____________________________________

- - - - - -

 

On a personal note… thank you for asking of the kids Pureinheart. They can always use prayer. I never turn that down. ..lol All seem to be holding and doing what need be done as life goes. In health for the most part have been blessed with good health and is not taken for granted. As for their walk in the Lord, God uses us all in His way. I do pray they keep growing in the Lord and every experience is to edify them in Spirit and that they grow stronger through. Praise Jesus. We know each day brings something new in the Lord. Amen.

 

Your Godmother feels people. My daughter keeps having a similar dream. She was on a cruise ship and when it docked there was a place of very old beautiful villas. A style of construction she is unfamiliar with. She saw many people dressed in white all happy smiling, the feeling is of love and very peaceful. She said every time your in my dreams mom there is tall broad shouldered bald headed, black man, he wears sunglasses and is dressed in white always standing behind you. He wears a constant smile and never speaks.

 

On her dreams I consider she is seeing rapture, for the black man he may be a representative of from Old from Everlasting. To add to this the same black man in a different dream and now in a far different location the people were dressed in black....he handed her a note she read it;

“out of all these people, I am the only one that truly loves you”.

 

Listen to this dream…about 2 months ago my mother, daughter and I decided one of my sons was not behaving very Godly. It was obvious he was falling short of the Glory of God and we behind his back began to pray for him. We prayed binding Satan from him and if any evil curse be upon his head in Jesus name we demanded it flee from him in Jesus precious name. We kept praying for him…

 

One day he looked at me as he was sipping water and holding his throat with his hand.

He said mom I had a weird dream. I dreamt I was chocking and reached inside my mouth thinking it was hair I choking on… I began to pull out a hair and it kept coming and bringing more hair soon it was a large ugly hair ball gross like the hair we might find stuck the elbow of a drain pipe. Only it gets worse the hairball was covered in little tiny worms millions of them. I pulled out two such hair balls and my chocking woke me up..

He said your not going to believe this but my throat is so sore now it actually hurts.

 

I praised Jesus and told him you have been freed from something… this is a cleansing dream. You have been set free in Jesus name. Days later it was apparent truth as I saw an obvious turn around in his thinking and behavior… We Praise Jesus for the power of prayer… Glory to God Hallelujah.

 

We all need prayer all the time … Amen.

 

I Pray all gets well … is well…and stays well with you and yours in Christ Jesus. Love ya much…God Bless*

 

PS any thoughts on her dreams are desired to hear.

 

 

 

Hey Love Hurts ((((((((((((hugggs)))))))))))

 

Concerning your daughters dreams, this is a possibility....the people both dressed in black and white are the same people, God is about to expose those who are pretending in her life, an underlying agenda with certain ones that God will expose.

 

I really believe the tall Black man is an angel, one of high stance in the angelic realm, very powerful....God will use this angel to speak to both of you the high things of Him.....I heard great increase in this this communication, great revelation knowledge.....cool

 

I had a dream when I was about 4 yrs. In the hills, a short way from my house, I was wading in some rich, black soil with my feet. I was accompanied by two men, one really big and another smaller one, I was not afraid....they were wearing clokes and I could not see their faces.

 

I moved back to my town where i had lived until I was 9yrs old. I senced then the move was premature, so God brought me back here about 4 yrs ago. He gave me the interpretaion of that dream 3 yrs ago. The men were angels and He was going to finish what He started with me by moving me back. He said the move was premature and that I was uprooted too soon. He said my life would now come full circle and that He was planting me in the rich soil in which i had started in.

 

In many points, crucial, pivital times in my life, God has given me dreams....I really believe this is a crucial point in your daughters life, God is about to do some very miraculous things....praise You Jesus!

 

I see you with the Apostolic calling, operating in all of the ministries of the 5-fold....this is common with the Apostolic. In a true 5-fold ministry, all of the callings operate in all of the callings, but their true calling stands out like a sore thumb...lol.

 

The one major trait of an Apostle is their faith, and you have faith like I have never seen. The Prophetic has a difficult time with faith, mostlikely because of the cleansings involved. The Apostolic seem to handle adversity much more effectively and all the teachings seem to come easy to them, and they need little "signs and wonders" to believe. Depression seems to follow the Prophetic, for some it's a battle to stay above water.

 

The Prophet can relate better to the Old Testament Prophets, ....when the Prophetic read the books that the Apostle Paul wrote, they are literally lost....Paul was so humble, so on track, and always said it right. The differences are amazing, yet balance the other out.

 

In thinking, the one area the Apostle Paul I felt was one sided in, is his writings concerning marriage....he went strongly towards being single, but then writes that if you HAVE to get married then go for it. But actually he is right, it is better in most ways being single....so here again, he's right!

 

GBU Love Hurts, lonelybird....may God bless you in all things!

 

That is so cool concerning the prayer and then the dream your son had! God did deliver him and if we ever get discouraged that our prayers are not answered, that right there is the proof that they are!

[Love Hurts]

Hey Love Hurts ((((((((((((hugggs)))))))))))

 

Concerning your daughters dreams, this is a possibility....the people both dressed in black and white are the same people, God is about to expose those who are pretending in her life, an underlying agenda with certain ones that God will expose.

 

I really believe the tall Black man is an angel, one of high stance in the angelic realm, very powerful....God will use this angel to speak to both of you the high things of Him.....I heard great increase in this this communication, great revelation knowledge.....cool

 

I had a dream when I was about 4 yrs. In the hills, a short way from my house, I was wading in some rich, black soil with my feet. I was accompanied by two men, one really big and another smaller one, I was not afraid....they were wearing clokes and I could not see their faces.

 

I moved back to my town where i had lived until I was 9yrs old. I senced then the move was premature, so God brought me back here about 4 yrs ago. He gave me the interpretaion of that dream 3 yrs ago. The men were angels and He was going to finish what He started with me by moving me back. He said the move was premature and that I was uprooted too soon. He said my life would now come full circle and that He was planting me in the rich soil in which i had started in.

 

In many points, crucial, pivital times in my life, God has given me dreams....I really believe this is a crucial point in your daughters life, God is about to do some very miraculous things....praise You Jesus!

 

I see you with the Apostolic calling, operating in all of the ministries of the 5-fold....this is common with the Apostolic. In a true 5-fold ministry, all of the callings operate in all of the callings, but their true calling stands out like a sore thumb...lol.

 

The one major trait of an Apostle is their faith, and you have faith like I have never seen. The Prophetic has a difficult time with faith, mostlikely because of the cleansings involved. The Apostolic seem to handle adversity much more effectively and all the teachings seem to come easy to them, and they need little "signs and wonders" to believe. Depression seems to follow the Prophetic, for some it's a battle to stay above water.

 

The Prophet can relate better to the Old Testament Prophets, ....when the Prophetic read the books that the Apostle Paul wrote, they are literally lost....Paul was so humble, so on track, and always said it right. The differences are amazing, yet balance the other out.

 

In thinking, the one area the Apostle Paul I felt was one sided in, is his writings concerning marriage....he went strongly towards being single, but then writes that if you HAVE to get married then go for it. But actually he is right, it is better in most ways being single....so here again, he's right!

 

GBU Love Hurts, lonelybird....may God bless you in all things!

 

That is so cool concerning the prayer and then the dream your son had! God did deliver him and if we ever get discouraged that our prayers are not answered, that right there is the proof that they are!

 

 

Pureinheart,

 

You post brings tears to my eyes…

I love you so much and your work in the Lord.

Thank you!!!! For who! You are in Jesus!!!

Do you know what your words do to us that believe in the Lord???

Girl do you know?

 

I tell you... I know God speaks through you! You are a gift to us in Him.

I’m speechless here at the moment… talk to you later on this… tears of joy.

 

God Bless*

[Love Hurts]

Pureinheart,

 

You are of Prophetic Spirit in the Lord, no doubt … I know it and I feel it in my spirit.. When I read your words…I know you are His Prophetic word and what a joy you are to us to hear you speak.

 

[i really believe the tall Black man is an angel, one of high stance in the angelic realm, very powerful....God will use this angel to speak to both of you the high things of Him.....I heard great increase in this this communication, great revelation knowledge.....cool…]

 

This strikes a cord and I believe you are right on. Pureinheart I do believe those of higher intelligence are the most difficult to be shown truth and to come to grips.

Its been said the highly intelligent lack common sense… that is apparent in my daughter.

 

Bright as she is; I find fault with the simple things in her logic.

{Intellects that debunk Jesus are the most difficult aside from the very rich.}

 

I Praise the good Lord my daughter does love the Lord… but she is so slow at coming to grips with the most practical thoughts. I cannot understand her mind at times and nor does she understand mine. What a loss we are with one another at times. All the good news is Jesus is the bind that ties us together in our adversities and we rejoice in the Lord and Praise His Name in unison. God is good when we are blind deaf and dumb to one another… the Lord unites us in spirit… at times our only unite is through our Lord.

 

At other times we are in complete accord.

I know you see where I am coming from through her dream, to you …clarity of my talk is more apparent as her dream explains it all.

Nonetheless our walk is one day at a time and soon and very soon we shall be where we long to be most of all…with our Savior sweet, sweet Jesus!

 

God Bless*

 

Love and Hugs your way Pureinheart, Jesus loves you and so do I!!!

[pureinheart]

You are so precious Love Hurts....man you brought tears to my eyes....what a joy you are!

 

Praise God.....my daughter had a dream yesterday and was amazed by it...the most hard to deal with people that she works with all changed overnight and became extremely nice people. I believe this to be representive of many things concerning good change in people, our circumstances, ect.

 

Also she dreamed I came into a lot of money....which I bare a witness to as I have been feeling it, not worrying about finances, knowing all is well.

 

Both represent miracles, God provision, His blessing on those around us also, transformed lives instantly. What took us years to accomplish, today others will experience it immediately....all is well with us says the Lord.

 

He has been ministering to me today, speaking of the good things to come....and I bore a witness due to the "knowing" inside of me, knowing I am not trying to tickle my own ears, but it is the truth.

 

The devil can't touch what God is about to do, as it was ordained from the foundation. In every situation/decision there will be many doors open (I just saw this in the Spirit), the decision will be, which wonderful door will we choose. God is bringing us back to our salvation, the choice we made will be rewarded by these doors.

 

Many angels have been released to the earth to distribute this blessing, I am seeing legions of angles right now (I think there are 186,000 to a legion)....He is the author and finisher of our faith, a great release of faith is pouring out...."healing faith" is what I am hearing.

 

Great mercy is being given to the severely back-slidden and to the very sick....a peace is falling like they've never know, the fear is moving.

 

Gods heart is touched greatly by our infirmities.....your daughter Love Hurts, God is taking special note concerning her, He is dealing with her in a special way due to her calling....she is highly anointed.....your son has great favor....I keep hearing the word "wind" concerning him....he will bring forth a wind of change, he will be used for great change in all things.

 

Many have been experiencing shock due to the seemingly never ending disasters, both personal and national. God says it's time to come out of this, time to release and renew the faith....for without faith it is impossible to please God.

 

Many good things coming your way Love Hurts....healing in all things....I just love you so much!!!!!!

[pureinheart]

Praise God Love Hurts, God gave me the interpretation of your daughters dream concerning you.....

 

Chad Taylor wrote a prophecy called "Let Freedom Reign"....through this I realized what God wants you to know.....The Black man (angel possibly) is representative of "Freedom"....

 

I really believe that this angel is assigned to you to walk you through total freedom in all things....

 

GBU Love Hurts.....you are so very blessed!