FAT: What no one is telling you.

[alphamale]

Did anyone watch this show on PBS the other nite? It was excellent.

 

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/takeonestep/?campaign=pbshomefeatures_1_fatbrwhatnooneistellingyou_2007-04-12

[Totoro]

I *think* this is what I saw last nite...

I just saw part of it. There was an overweight teenager talking to some doctor (?) with an Australian (?) accent and they were talking about how hard it is to diet and how thin people don't understand this. Then later he was interviewing people in his backyard or something about his decision to get stomach surgery.

 

Was that it?

 

yes, it was interesting. it dealt with the issue of hunger. I can definitely relate to that one!!

I love food so much....

[alphamale]

yes that was it TOTORO

[Fun2BMe]

So what is it we're not being told about it?

[dropdeadlegs]

I missed the show and it isn't being aired again anytime soon in my area.

 

I would have liked to have seen it. It sounds interesting.

[quankanne]

from the website, about what no one is telling you about fat:

 

"The voices of these and other real Americans tell the story of the biological barriers, cultural habits, and economic realities that contribute to our nation's expanding waistline."

[dropdeadlegs]

I'm really sorry that I missed this one!

 

That simple statement made so much sense. I used to wonder how some of the poorest people were sometimes the heaviest people, at least in the US. I never thought it through to the point of concluding that some foods that are cheaply priced are often not very healthy.

 

As a matter of fact it is expensive to eat truly healthy foods. Lean meats are higher priced than lower grades. Fresh vegetables can be pricey too.

[hotgurl]

I'm really sorry that I missed this one!

 

That simple statement made so much sense. I used to wonder how some of the poorest people were sometimes the heaviest people, at least in the US. I never thought it through to the point of concluding that some foods that are cheaply priced are often not very healthy.

 

As a matter of fact it is expensive to eat truly healthy foods. Lean meats are higher priced than lower grades. Fresh vegetables can be pricey too.

 

that's so true. If you're poor you're eating Ramen, Mac & Cheese & Hot Dogs. & Soda.

 

Fresh fruits & Veggies are so pricey right now. I can't find grapes for under $1.99 a pound. I remeber when you could get grapes on sale for $.99 a pound.

[laRubiaBonita]

"The voices of these and other real Americans tell the story of the biological barriers, cultural habits, and economic realities that contribute to our nation's expanding waistline."

 

i do not see this as Breaking News though. it is something that we have heard and seen.

 

they do these docu-shows about obesity and other addictions on TDC, TLC, and A&E....

 

it really has not changed the fact that most americans are growing fatter.

[dropdeadlegs]

that's so true. If you're poor you're eating Ramen, Mac & Cheese & Hot Dogs. & Soda.

 

Fresh fruits & Veggies are so pricey right now. I can't find grapes for under $1.99 a pound. I remeber when you could get grapes on sale for $.99 a pound.

 

Not to mention that the hot dogs and mac and cheese are the grossest cheapest versions of pretty unhealthy foods in the first place. Throw in some really bad frozen pizzas full of processed crap and loaded with like 1000 calories.

 

I remember $.99 grapes, too. Then again, I remember $.99 gasoline and everything gets more expensive when gasoline is high.

 

Thanks co-miserating!

[PuppyDogEyes]

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/showthread.php?p=943277#post943277

 

hotgurl, you're correct. I've been saying this for months.

 

- pde.

[westernxer]

Poor people in other countries are not fat.

[dropdeadlegs]

Poor people in other countries are not fat.

That's because they're starving. the ones that aren't starving probably eat more fish that they catch themselves, and not all the processed crap Americans eat. Here in the US we give our poor folks food stamps, or whatever they call them these days. they buy a lot of mac and cheese at three for a buck.

[amaysngrace]

Poor people in other countries are not fat.

 

They have famine issues westy. In the US cheap food is available, and food stamps are available. We feed our poor where other coutries just don't have the resources to.

[Fun2BMe]

Poor people in other countries are not fat.

 

Because their foods aren't filled with artificial chemicals (most of which don't have to even be disclosed on the label) that make you want to eat more and more all the while not getting any nutrients as they have been stripped away. The starches and bad fats that are masked by flavors and color, end up clogging the arteries and fattening up our peeps who don't walk or exercise, either spend all their time on the couch or in their cars.

 

Poor people in other countries can't buy a big hamburger for 99 cents. They also walk more and their foods are not stripped of vitamins and replaced with chemicals that are not digestable and turn to fat. and they don't have a 7-11 on every corner to walk into to get a bag of chips and a snickers 'to satisfy their hunger'.

[polywog]

I didn't watch the documentary, but this news does not surprise me. I can't help thinking that the Pharmaceutical Industry (and insurance) is behind it all (paranoid me). We are what we eat, and people eat s**t and those industries profit from that.

 

All these causes of obesity are cheap fast food & convenience food (well-promoted), that are filled with salt, high-fructose corn syrup (evil in so many ways, both political and physical... we don't metabolize it properly).

 

Obesity, high blood pressure, etc. Lots of money to be made by Somebody.

 

It really pisses me off.

 

[amaysngrace]

I can't help thinking that the Pharmaceutical Industry (and insurance) is behind it all (paranoid me).

 

Obesity, high blood pressure, etc. Lots of money to be made by Somebody.

 

It really pisses me off.

 

 

I think it's more about uneducated Americans. Or complacent ones. Take your pick.

[alphamale]

As a matter of fact it is expensive to eat truly healthy foods. Lean meats are higher priced than lower grades. Fresh vegetables can be pricey too.

yes the show covered that. For example, you can get a combo at BKs for $4.99 that probably has 1,200 calories in it. Where else can you get that deal, even though its very unhealthy for you?

 

i do not see this as Breaking News though. it is something that we have heard and seen.

well this show as a little better made than the others and more science based.

 

Poor people in other countries are not fat.

the rich people in poor countries are fat cause they have lots 'o food.

 

I think it's more about uneducated Americans. Or complacent ones. Take your pick.

yes the show talked about how obiesity disproportionately affects the lower economic classes (at least in the US)

[Green]

eating healthy is in some ways more expensive but in some ways alot cheaper. Its cheaper because you wont need to go to the doctor as much. And its cheaper cause you;ll look and feel better there for allowing you to score with more women with less financial effort hehe. I eat alot of Banana's, Organic cage free egg whites, Apples, Corn, Brocolli, Brusel Sprouts, Fish, Turkey, Chicken and subistitute Extra Virgin Olive Oil for butter and avoid butter like the plague. Eat Whole grains. And yes its more expensive then my ramen noodle diet in college but heck I lost a ton of fat just by changing to a healthier diet. I avoid things Like High Fructose Corn Syrup or Hydrogenated whatevers also very bad. I eat small portions many times through out the day I have atleast 5 meals every day and try to eat the heaviest of the calories earlier in the day. I also do that thing where I try not to ever eat anything past 4 hours before Im going to go to sleep.

[laRubiaBonita]

alpha, did the show go into disordered eating? like binge eating, bulimia, anorexia (all of which are on the rise)?

 

did it talk about how we live in a culture obsessed with model perfection.... yet we are a majority of fat-asses who are beraded with negative messages about weight which feeds into emotional eating, which helps pack in more calories.... then we start having health problems, knee problem, type 2 diabetes (on the rise as well)....

 

stuff like that?

[alphamale]

alpha, did the show go into disordered eating? like binge eating, bulimia, anorexia (all of which are on the rise)?

mmm...not really cause those disorders are associated with skinny people...

 

did it talk about how we live in a culture obsessed with model perfection.... yet we are a majority of fat-asses who are beraded with negative messages about weight which feeds into emotional eating, which helps pack in more calories.... then we start having health problems, knee problem, type 2 diabetes (on the rise as well)....

 

stuff like that?

yea it talked about all that...

[laRubiaBonita]

anorexia is really the only one truely associated with "skinny" people.

 

binge eaters just eat.

 

bulimics binge and then purge, which majority of bulimics are a normal weight.

 

and, IMO, most of the obesity on america is binge eating, emotional eating. but at the same time, once you get chubby you start to get picked on ore and more, which makes you eat to ease the pain more and more.... it just becomes this huge cycle.

 

i have strong feelings on this issue. i was obese, at age 16 i tipped the scale at over 250 pounds, this was my sophmore/ early junior year of HS. then i began to develope anorexia, but i would stave myslef, but i also hasd a bulimc streak, cause i would "binge" on say, grapes, or i would drink to much coke....so i would throw it up.

by the second semester of my senior year, 18, i weighed 90 pounds.

 

my weight ranges between 137-145 now. i still struggle with my bulimia. it is not nearly what is was.

 

i think it is very inherient, my grandmother was always a weight nazi, to my mother, to my sisters and i, to our cousins. one cousin is bulimic.

 

my mother is an emotional eater, she had gastric bypass surgery almost 3 years ago. she still tries to "binge" and she still makes herself sick.

it is a band-aid for her REAL problem.

[alphamale]

anorexia is really the only one truely associated with "skinny" people.

oh I didn't know that...

 

i have strong feelings on this issue. i was obese, at age 16 i tipped the scale at over 250 pounds,

wow I didn't know that...

 

by the second semester of my senior year, 18, i weighed 90 pounds.

wow

 

my weight ranges between 137-145 now.

thats a nice healthy & sexy weight

 

it is a band-aid for her REAL problem.

what's her REAL problem?

[Fun2BMe]

eating healthy is in some ways more expensive but in some ways alot cheaper. Its cheaper because you wont need to go to the doctor as much. And its cheaper cause you;ll look and feel better there for allowing you to score with more women with less financial effort hehe.

That's like telling a poor person to put away $1000 in savings each month so they can retire well. If someone can't afford to spend more on a regular basis to eat healthier, they are not going to out of the blue be able to do so so that they save on medical expenses. In fact they don't 'lose' money on medical bills either because they end up not being able to afford going to the doctor until they drop dead of a heart attack or else have late stages of cancer that is so noticeable that they won't get treated anyways. Unless they are on medicaid and go to the doctor on public assisted funds. So they still aren't paying out of pocket.

 

 

eat alot of Banana's, Organic cage free egg whites, Apples, Corn, Brocolli, Brusel Sprouts, Fish, Turkey, Chicken and subistitute Extra Virgin Olive Oil for butter and avoid butter like the plague.

I don't eat bananas unless they're the small natural kinds that are organic. I don't eat apples unless they are organic and don't have the waxy coating and genetic engineering. Corn. brocoli and brusel sprouts I avoid all together because I don't know where to find natural versions. Fish and chicken not worth bothering with. But butter does me a lot of good so I prefer it to other oils and fats.

 

And yes its more expensive then my ramen noodle diet in college but heck I lost a ton of fat just by changing to a healthier diet.

I still eat ramen noodle though:confused: I guess I'm strict on some things but then it might not make sense that I love my unhealthy ramens on a regular basis:D I have to do what my body wants and it tells me they're ok.

[alphamale]

I don't eat bananas unless they're the small natural kinds that are organic. I don't eat apples unless they are organic and don't have the waxy coating and genetic engineering. .

actually F2BM...studies have shown that the only difference between organic and non-organic produce is the price. If you buy organic you're getting ripped off cause you're paying double for the exact same thing. Its all marketing and psychology. Since you're paying two or three times as much you THINK that organic stuff is better for you.