a4a, I need your d--n fork

[a4a]

Maybe an adept business minded guy who lives in his own place would work for you. A real go-getter in success and the sack that keeps any baggage in his very own closet.

 

Living alone has it's perks, that's for sure.

 

I guess I should start looking at resumes?

 

I always said I need a string of ponies in my stable.... handy man, funny man, business minded man, romantic sap man, deaf mute gorgeous Adonis with Mr. Ed qualities.

 

But not under my own roof...... keep them down in the stable.

[justanothermother]

I hope that is not the case with the women in this thread.

 

It certainly doesn't sound like it to me. It sounds like these women are just fed up with being treated like crap.

[hotgurl]

She is having a stressful week at work and I thought it would be a nice surprise for her to come home to that. I am making shrimp scampi and breaking out the good wine. Maybe I am a bit biased because of what I saw my father go through and what I went through in my first marriage.

 

Woogle that is so nice of you. I would love for my BF to do something like that for me. But it won't happen.

 

My situation isn't as bad as a4a or mfk but I do feel that I am being taken for granted.

 

I wonder if it just eneviatable(sp?) in relationships as time goes by you slowly start to take your partner for granted.

[My Fair Katie]

I wonder if it just eneviatable(sp?) in relationships as time goes by you slowly start to take your partner for granted.

 

Oddly I think I could handle it if I were just being taken for granted. But to also feel like he holds me in contempt? Too much for me to handle.

 

The man has issues, they won't go away until he cares to recognize it. He doesn't care to recognize it.

[Woggle]

People just naturally slip into routine but you should take the time once in a while to make your spouse or partner feel special. I know she would do the same for me though and that is why I feel good doing it. My ex on the other hand was never happy no matter what I did and eventually I stopped even trying because what was the point.

[dropdeadlegs]

I wonder if it just eneviatable(sp?) in relationships as time goes by you slowly start to take your partner for granted.

I do think it happens in most relationships, to what extreme is the key.

 

A simple "thank you, that was so thoughtful and I appreciate you" is so important. It works wonders for me and makes the humdrum things more desirable to do when it is appreciated.

[a4a]

Oddly I think I could handle it if I were just being taken for granted. But to also feel like he holds me in contempt? Too much for me to handle.

 

The man has issues, they won't go away until he cares to recognize it. He doesn't care to recognize it.

 

I have asked/discussed with my H the contempt theory... he denies it.

 

What causes this..... hate, competition, fear, perfectionism, ....... no matter what I have thought, suggested, tried to change about myself ....... doesn't do it.

 

He denies being PA, denies doing anything on purpose.

 

But at this point I just don't care why..... not my problem to fix, it is his.

 

Like yours -the issues probably never will be recognized or fixed he will continue to blame the evil leperchauns for his life.

 

In the meantime back at the ranch..... I am no longer taking his crap. Nor taking the blame/responsibility for HIS issues.

[dropdeadlegs]

People just naturally slip into routine but you should take the time once in a while to make your spouse or partner feel special. I know she would do the same for me though and that is why I feel good doing it. My ex on the other hand was never happy no matter what I did and eventually I stopped even trying because what was the point.

I think you just hit the nail on the head of Katie's situation. Why even try?

[a4a]

People just naturally slip into routine but you should take the time once in a while to make your spouse or partner feel special. I know she would do the same for me though and that is why I feel good doing it. My ex on the other hand was never happy no matter what I did and eventually I stopped even trying because what was the point.

 

Your X tried to shoot you..... I think she is a little nutty to say the least.

 

Big difference between a person that is nutty like me and being "shootin' nuts".

[Woggle]

Your X tried to shoot you..... I think she is a little nutty to say the least.

 

Big difference between a person that is nutty like me and being "shootin' nuts".

 

She also threw boiling water at me once and threw my tv out of a 12th story window. I can't believe that it took her cheating to realize that I needed to get out of that marriage.

[dropdeadlegs]

She also threw boiling water at me once and threw my tv out of a 12th story window. I can't believe that it took her cheating to realize that I needed to get out of that marriage.

I didn't know these parts of your story, Woggle. I assume you have redrawn the "acceptable boundary" lines to include more than cheating! Maybe you have come much farther than I had assumed. Keep doing the good work.

[a4a]

She also threw boiling water at me once and threw my tv out of a 12th story window. I can't believe that it took her cheating to realize that I needed to get out of that marriage.

 

Well Woggle the root of your bias is understood. But perhaps it is time to realize that many women like myself do not throw boiling water, shoot at people, belittle male children because they are male, nor chuck TV's out the window.

 

Some of us are/were kind and caring but our partners treat us like crap. Some of us have just had enough of that treatment from them....... not placing the blame on the entire male gender.

[Woggle]

I didn't know these parts of your story, Woggle. I assume you have redrawn the "acceptable boundary" lines to include more than cheating! Maybe you have come much farther than I had assumed. Keep doing the good work.

 

There is even more but it would take all day to list everything. It took the cheating to smack me into reality and looking back I realize how poisonous that relationship was. Words can't describe how good it feels right now to have a happy and healthy relationship for the first tiime in my life.

[dropdeadlegs]

There is even more but it would take all day to list everything. It took the cheating to smack me into reality and looking back I realize how poisonous that relationship was. Words can't describe how good it feels right now to have a happy and healthy relationship for the first tiime in my life.

I completely understand the happiness in a healthy relationship, it took me a long time to recognize how to spot a "normal" man. Nobody is perfect, but there are many that are so far from perfect that they aren't worthy of my attention.

 

I agree with a4a that your bias is understandable considering your past, and I think your wife is crucial in achieving a more balanced view of the female gender.

 

Your ability in the past to accept such craziness, yet drawing the line at cheating is not much different than the battered wife that says "but he goes to work every day and is a great provider." Many of us need to set and accept far more boundaries than we do. Life is also a learning experience if we choose to look at it that way. Learn something from every relationship, be it parental, spousal, or friendship, and carry those often hard lessons with us to become better people. In short, live and learn.

[PWSX3]

Woggle if my H did that for me I would poop my pants with delight!

 

planning something means the world to me..... the effort you are putting into a nice dinner, the planning it takes, the actually action of it..... I don't care if it was burnt fish sticks... by candlelight I would be thrilled beyond belief.

Amen sister!!!!

Just to let you gals know it goes both ways, my W is a lot like your H's in she doesn't plan & why do something today when you can do it tomorrow thinking.

When we were going to MC 5 years ago this was one thing I asked for & the only thing she could say was; I just don't have that creativity like you do, I didn't buy it & I still don't buy it.

 

If you love someone such as woggles loves his W then you do these things for them just because. How hard would it be to burn fish sticks and put out a couple candles. a4a probably remembers my arguement with the W about candles & now I burn them more often then she does. (sorry different story).

 

I'm just thankful I trying to better myself from being like your guys H's & reading this material really brings me back to realiality.

 

Note to self: Don't get a4a excited!!! :lmao::lmao::lmao::love:

[a4a]

Amen sister!!!!

Just to let you gals know it goes both ways, my W is a lot like your H's in she doesn't plan & why do something today when you can do it tomorrow thinking.

When we were going to MC 5 years ago this was one thing I asked for & the only thing she could say was; I just don't have that creativity like you do, I didn't buy it & I still don't buy it.

 

If you love someone such as woggles loves his W then you do these things for them just because. How hard would it be to burn fish sticks and put out a couple candles. a4a probably remembers my arguement with the W about candles & now I burn them more often then she does. (sorry different story).

 

I'm just thankful I trying to better myself from being like your guys H's & reading this material really brings me back to realiality.

 

Note to self: Don't get a4a excited!!! :lmao::lmao::lmao::love:

 

glad my suck butt rants are useful to someone!

 

I kicked him out of my room last night........ finally he got out. It felt so good not to have him in there. I came in to tell me he was leaving for work this morn. Well whippity doo daa..... thanks for the crucial information. :lmao:

 

How hard is it to say "honey let's do something that you want to do this weekend".......... real hard.

 

If he goes to that damn nascar race next month I toss every stitch of his clothing in with the pigs. Since I am never "allowed" to spend money on what I want to do for entertainment..... concert tickets were too expensive.. but his $120 stupid race tickets plus beer and food is ok...... symphony is frickin free even....... bastard!

 

and it's my money!

 

I am so stupid.

[My Fair Katie]

How hard is it to say "honey let's do something that you want to do this weekend".......... real hard.

 

If he goes to that damn nascar race next month I toss every stitch of his clothing in with the pigs. Since I am never "allowed" to spend money on what I want to do for entertainment..... concert tickets were too expensive.. but his $120 stupid race tickets plus beer and food is ok...... symphony is frickin free even....... bastard!

 

Let's go lesbo a4a. I'll be blunt, I aint a hot chick, but I'm plenty "cute as a button."

 

P.S. The last two Katie concerts we went to were free (good...but free). Of course Hubby spent money on his last concert plus the travel costs and hotel (the concert was in Filthydelphia). I guess I can't complain too much, it *was* a fun concert.

[a4a]

Let's go lesbo a4a. I'll be blunt, I aint a hot chick, but I'm plenty "cute as a button."

 

P.S. The last two Katie concerts we went to were free (good...but free). Of course Hubby spent money on his last concert plus the travel costs and hotel (the concert was in Filthydelphia). I guess I can't complain too much, it *was* a fun concert.

 

ok sounds good! Let's be lesbos..... how are your tractor driving skills? Do you enjoy making soap?

 

*I have a dog that farts quite a bit, are you down with that?

[My Fair Katie]

Making soap? Who the heck are you? Dr. Bronner? Shall we wash in a running stream as well?

 

Farting dogs I've no problem with, but uh, please don't poop in my shoes.

[a4a]

Making soap? Who the heck are you? Dr. Bronner? Shall we wash in a running stream as well?

 

Farting dogs I've no problem with, but uh, please don't poop in my shoes.

 

oh I guess you don't know about my big plans to open a lesbian commune that makes soap naked and drives it to town with the tractor to sell? Sunny wants to join.

 

Oh my no I would not poop in your shoes, of course if you pee in my diet coke, well, the shoe poopin' is on!

 

and no we have several boulders in our streams here to beat your thongs on after you rinse them out in the water........ optional.... I prefer using the whirlpool duet, but if you want to use the stream it's all yours.

 

Of course you would need to do so naked. Did I mention I have a couple of zoom web cams mounted on my property? :lmao: I hear CHA CHING $$$$$$$$$$$ in the distance..........