Topper Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Over-analyzing causes fallacies, BUT here is the context in which I am referring to: 'ELOHIM; 'AH_VAH is the ONE TRUE GOD OF ETERNITIES, the MOTHER*FATHER OF CREATION, ETERNAL PARENT-CHILD, CHILD/APPARENT, the DIVINE NO*THING , the DIVINE IT, called, in the proper frame of understanding and spirit, as "THOU", virtually beyond all human grasp, comprehension, and understanding, the ONE ETERNAL TRUTH, the CREATIVE THOUGHT underlying everything, the ETERNAL MIND of universes and beyond, WHO / THAT which brings forth all things living, WHO belongs to ETERNITY and brings forth all LIFE in every thing. Thank you for the definition. Your statement about "over analyzing causes fallacies" does not apply. Since The word Elohim can have many meanings. The very abbreviated definitions I supplied were from a dictionary of Translated Hebrew words. Wikipedia supplied the Mormon Translation of the word. They also give a good deal of info on the other names of God. Elohim is not a precise word. It is not a precise name for God. So I would have to be given your definition to make my own determination on what you mean by Elohim. As I said in the old testament it is used a few times to describe many gods such as the Canaanite gods. You seem to use it: as in; the many natures of God. Other old testament names for god are Eliel, Adonai, Hasher and YHWH. Abraham and Issac called God Shaddai. The translation seems to be distroyer God. Of course, when Mose ask God for his name, God replies with "Ehyah asher ehyah." KJV of the Bible translated as, "I am what I am." hebrew is "I will be what I will be" or "I shall be what I shall be." Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 This is why I personally am so comfortable with Buddhism. After over 40 years as a practising roman catholic, I can finally state with all sincerity that the buck stops here. No whys, now whos, no trying to explain or justify. Just here. Just now. Just me. just you. What I do is for me to decide, judge and come to terms with. What you do, ditto. How wonderfully refreshing and liberating! Hello everyone! New here! Just thought I'd come in and rock the canoe....!! Link to post Share on other sites
boshemia Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Hello everyone! New here! Just thought I'd come in and rock the canoe....!! Greetings and Welcome This is a Canoe in the middle of a typhoon... and now you are right in the thick of it, hold on tight. Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 This is why I personally am so comfortable with Buddhism. After over 40 years as a practising roman catholic, I can finally state with all sincerity that the buck stops here. No whys, now whos, no trying to explain or justify. Just here. Just now. Just me. just you. What I do is for me to decide, judge and come to terms with. What you do, ditto. How wonderfully refreshing and liberating! Hello everyone! New here! Just thought I'd come in and rock the canoe....!! Greetings!!!!!! Glad you chose LS and hope to see more of you in the future! Link to post Share on other sites
pureinheart Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 This shooting was a horrible tragedy, my prayers go out to the families that lost their loved ones..... Link to post Share on other sites
Island Girl Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 Ummm let's see......because HE said so.....didn't you listen to what I just typed? I believe there IS only one God. There is no, "my" God, or, "your" God. Well, Moose, your bible says He is. But where ELSE does it say that? The bible isn't evidence. "I believe the bible because the bible says it is true" right? Well just because it is written down in a book doesn't mean it is true. There are plenty of other religions that say their God(s) is the one and their God is different from your God. And yes--- I said and do mean your God. The one you believe in. Everybody doesn't believe in your religion or your God. They have their own faiths with different God(s) than the one described in the bible. What makes yours right and theirs wrong? Other than the bible of course -- because their Holy Doctrine says they're right... So what defines it? Link to post Share on other sites
Island Girl Posted April 22, 2007 Share Posted April 22, 2007 This is why I personally am so comfortable with Buddhism. After over 40 years as a practising roman catholic, I can finally state with all sincerity that the buck stops here. No whys, now whos, no trying to explain or justify. Just here. Just now. Just me. just you. What I do is for me to decide, judge and come to terms with. What you do, ditto. How wonderfully refreshing and liberating! Hello everyone! New here! Just thought I'd come in and rock the canoe....!! I feel you Geishawhelk -- I agree we are responsible for all of our own choices whether they lead to successes or failures. The buck stops here is right on. Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Thank you boshemia and Pureinheart.....Nice to be here.... I guess my thought on the canoe rocking in the storm is that it will be more stable if everyone stays calm..... But I'm lucky to not suffer mal de mer....! Link to post Share on other sites
boshemia Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 "Stay calm, keep your hands and feet inside the forums at all times, and please mind the no-smoking signs" Link to post Share on other sites
boshemia Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 Well, Moose, your bible says He is. But where ELSE does it say that? The bible isn't evidence. "I believe the bible because the bible says it is true" right? Well just because it is written down in a book doesn't mean it is true. There are plenty of other religions that say their God(s) is the one and their God is different from your God. And yes--- I said and do mean your God. The one you believe in. Everybody doesn't believe in your religion or your God. They have their own faiths with different God(s) than the one described in the bible. What makes yours right and theirs wrong? Other than the bible of course -- because their Holy Doctrine says they're right... So what defines it? I think the faith written in your heart is the important thing. I agree we are responsible for all of our own choices whether they lead to successes or failures. AMEN! Ummm... err... Link to post Share on other sites
Teacher's Pet Posted April 23, 2007 Share Posted April 23, 2007 It's quite apparent that god has no influence on anything that happens in the world. Why would I thank him for contributing nothing? If god truly were an omnipotent force of good in the universe, he would stop bad things from happening. That he doesn't do anything because he wants us to have free will seems a very poor way to excuse his inability to have any real effect in the world. Sadly, if NOTHING bad ever happened, we'd never grow as a species. Every invention, discovery, or whatever has stemmed from a problem or a bad situation. If no one died of horrible diseases, we'd never understand the way the human body worked. If people NEVER got killed or robbed, we'd NEVER know good from evil, or right from wrong. If we never knew hate, we'd never understand and appreciate love. That, I think is the most important thing. Sure, we all have some sort of love in our lives, but that love is amplified by the fact that we have things in life we HATE, and by using them as a comparison, we are able to appreciate the LOVE even more. Just my thought. -tp appreciates what love there is in his life, there's actually more than he sometimes realize. Link to post Share on other sites
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