Trialbyfire Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Oh .... maybe he is after money and not punnani. So how much money we talking about? Hmmm ... and she certainly seems like a sexual girl ... I'm single and she wouldn't have to kill a marriage You know, I'm begining to see your side of this thing If you consider victimizing people acceptable behaviour then I guess it's okay to do. Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 You're going in circles, arguing that she is more at fault than him. Show me ONE place where I said that. Link to post Share on other sites
woe_is_me Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 Fun2be should really just go for a nice long walk or a jog through the park instead of 'therapy?' Maybe buy a puppy or a kitten to take care of (more loving than some dirty old therapist who can't stick to any code of ethics.) And Fun2 while the fresh air is clearing your head you should use a bit of reverse psychology yourself and haul this guy over the coals in the form of some kind of lawsuit ..take your cell phone .. get all down and dirty with him..tell him you're taking kinky pictures for him..he will LOVE that..! Then sue his sorry perverted azz! Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 The first fifteen pages of this thread are all men and women telling her she's wrong. I do think she's wrong. But he is mostly responsible. Should she drop him and drop this whole thing? Absolutely. That's all I've been saying all along. I agree that he's more accountable. Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 The first fifteen pages of this thread are all men and women telling her she's wrong. I do think she's wrong. But he is mostly responsible. ... However, I don't appreciate your accusation that my opinion derives from my gender rather than from my own reasoning, which is not impaired at all. Since you agreed that she's wrong but he's mostly responsible, I not only agree with with you but I also agree that your reasoning is not impaired. But you're an exception to most of the recent female replies because most of them see her as not wrong at all. I think it's fair to imply that most of those replies are gender biased. ----------------------- Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted April 30, 2007 Share Posted April 30, 2007 However, I don't appreciate your accusation that my opinion derives from my gender rather than from my own reasoning, which is not impaired at all. I'd like to go further on this point. I apologize to you for lumping you in like that. Link to post Share on other sites
Hugh_950 Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Yes, she is wrong to kiss him, or kissed her, who cares now how it happened, POINT IS, it did happen ... The point I think GB was making is that she's wrong for manuvering to ruin a marriage. All you're willing to admit to is a kiss. Link to post Share on other sites
Hugh_950 Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 She's already decided she's NOT having sex with him ... That's not really correct. You obviously missed F2BM's point. She didn't just decide to not have sex with him. What she really said was that she'd withhold sex until he agrees to dump his wife. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 That's not really correct. You obviously missed F2BM's point. She didn't just decide to not have sex with him. What she really said was that she'd withhold sex until he agrees to dump his wife. If it gets the job done...is the motivation all that important? She'll need to find herself another therapist after that which can only be for her own good. Link to post Share on other sites
Reckless Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I can't help but to wonder how today's session went. If she told him about this thread, and he reads it - she is hosed. He will use every single thing in this thread to manipulate her further and demonize the people who are trying to convince her to untangle herself from this mess. .... but you earlier presented the possible scenerio LB that things may not be exactly as Fun has presented it. I have been following this thread and if there's one thing that is apparent that is we are dealing with a mind seriously out of whack. Did things happen as she said? Was there really a kiss? Did he tell her he loved her to get the ball rolling? Does she have the emotional resources and mental stability to stick to her decision? This has got to be one of the saddest and threads I've read in a long time... Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 If it gets the job done...is the motivation all that important? She'll need to find herself another therapist after that which can only be for her own good. The job??? The job in YOUR mind may be for her to end the romance. And I'd agree. But you're not reading what she said. The job in HER brain is to steal the husband. And that's a sick agenda. Read the thread. She's swihholding sex until he promisea a divorce. Not to end things just to end things with him. Look, what if he plays her game and promises to dump his wife? They'll have sex, she'll get in worse. In the future she'll be on this thread as the OW telling everyone about the dirty SOB who won't keep his promise. But she's bringing it on - and it's not just because she's a sweetie. She's out to ruin another woman. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 The job??? The job in YOUR mind may be for her to end the romance. And I'd agree. But you're not reading what she said. The job in HER brain is to steal the husband. And that's a sick agenda. Read the thread. She's swihholding ex to make him promise a divorce. Not to end things just to end things with him. Look, what if he plays her game and promises to dump his wife? They'll have sex, she'll get in worse. Iin the future she'll be on this thread as the OW telling everyone about the dirty SOB who won't keep his promise. But she's bringing it on - and it's not just because she's a sweetie. She's out to ruin another woman. Step back from the situation. The most important first step is that she needs to get another therapist. She desperately needs to work through the rest with a new therapist. Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Step back from the situation. The most important first step is that she needs to get another therapist. She desperately needs to work through the rest with a new therapist. I'd agree with that too. But that's not the point. You're avoiding having to admit that she's doing a pretty crappy thing. She's trying steal another woman's husband. What about that? Is that OK in your eyes? Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I'd agree with that too. But that's not the point. You're avoiding having to admit that she's doing a pretty crappy thing. She's trying steal another woman's husband. What about that? Is that OK in your eyes? Refer back to my comment about the fantasy aspect of this... Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I can't help but to wonder how today's session went. If she told him about this thread, and he reads it - she is hosed. He will use every single thing in this thread to manipulate her further and demonize the people who are trying to convince her to untangle herself from this mess. She's already been pinged on the possibility that he could read this saga. She said that's OK though because she'll tell him all of it anyway. I think if he does, he'll sh*t his pants and certainly do SOMETHING to cover his tracks. Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Refer back to my comment about the fantasy aspect of this... But I remember it. That's the reply where You said She's "not completely innocent" but then went back to - it's really all his fault. Just more of the same - excusing her for this. Really making very light of the fact that she's trying to steal another womans husband. Come on - do you think it's OK to steal another womans husband? I'll quote you once again, "just answer the question" Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 But I remember it. That's the reply where You said She's "not completely innocent" but then went back to it's really all his fault. Just more of the same - excusing her for this. Really making very light of the fact that she's trying to steal another womans husband. Come on - do you think it's OK to steal another womans husband. I'll quote you once again, "just answer the question" If one is in full control of one's faculties, no it's not okay to actively attempt to break up someone else's marriage. Link to post Share on other sites
Storyrider Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 I'd like to go further on this point. I apologize to you for lumping you in like that. OK. I accept your apology. What point? Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 If one is in full control of one's faculties, no it's not okay to actively attempt to break up someone else's marriage. So then you're saying it's OK if one is NOT in full control of one's facilities? Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 OK. I accept your apology. What point? Thanks. What point? I was only referring to acknowledging that your reasoning was not impaired. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 So then you're saying it's OK if one is NOT in full control of one's facilities? If one is not in control of one's faculties, how can one make decisions? By law, you are non-liable... Link to post Share on other sites
Storyrider Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 Her ability to distinguish right from wrong is undermined by her issues. To get around that she needs to be aware enough to distrust her own judgements. She isn't psychotic, so she wouldn't be completely absolved of responsibility. But she's off balance in just the area she needs most. Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 If one is not in control of one's faculties, how can one make decisions? By law, you are non-liable... By law huh? She's disturbed not insane. You're reaching way back ... but very few cases exist these days where people are excused for not being in full control of their faculties. She wouldn't qualify - not by any strech - not by anything we've read in this forum. Sorry, I think shes not quite that fare gone. Just emotionally disturbed. Playing on sympathy, checked into this forum looking for rubber stamp approval for what she wants to do. She feels shame and needs someone to help her stifle her own nagging sense that it's wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 She feels shame and needs someone to help her stifle her own nagging sense that it's wrong. She's here to get some good advice, by her own premise... Link to post Share on other sites
GregsBad Posted May 1, 2007 Share Posted May 1, 2007 She's here to get some good advice, by her own premise... Nope! she's here to get encouragemnt or consolation - so she can do what she wants. She's out to steal the wife's husband. If she were a man you'd call him a pig. Link to post Share on other sites
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