Many wives

[dropdeadlegs]

mandypandy,

 

What church are you attending? Most Christian religions do not condone multiple wives. Does your church leader have more than one wife? You can still have God and the blessings he has brought to your life without accepting polygamy. If your branch of Christianity is accepting of practicing polygamy, maybe you should consider finding a branch that does not.

 

Polygamy is illegal in the United States and in some areas the authorities are bringing the hammer down on men who are practicing polygamy. The "extra" wives (since only the first is legally recognized and lawful) and the many children are draining the welfare system because these men cannot afford all of these wives and children.

 

You are obviously uncomfortable with the idea of another wife. Stick with your gut because I expect your husband will try to brainwash you into changing your core beliefs.

 

On another note, it would be very helpful if you would use punctuation. It was hard to tell where one sentence ended and the next began in your posts. You get more responses when people can read and understand your situation.

[Geishawhelk]

Why can't a man only love one woman?

Hoolywood movie sucks, just opposite to reality

 

Women are capable of being just as unfaithful, so don't walk around with the idea that only men commit adultery...If you're going to discuss real life, discuss real life.....

 

With Metta,

 

G.

[lonelybird]

Women are capable of being just as unfaithful, so don't walk around with the idea that only men commit adultery...If you're going to discuss real life, discuss real life.....

 

With Metta,

 

G.

Yes, unfortunately some women are unfaithful

 

I am trying to figure out why, why, why, I guess human being just weak in that matter, or there are some deeper reasons, NO, still weak in flesh:confused:

[lonelybird]

I am thinking "love is one kind of obsession"

[lonelybird]

Bible's love is much better

 

13:4 Love is patient and kind; it is not jealous or conceited or proud;

13:5 love is not ill-mannered or selfish or irritable; love does not keep a record of wrongs;

13:6 love is not happy with evil, but is happy with the truth.

13:7 Love never gives up; and its faith, hope, and patience never fail.

13:8 Love is eternal. There are inspired messages, but they are temporary; there are gifts of speaking in strange tongues, but they will cease; there is knowledge, but it will pass.

 

but as earthly human being, WHO ever achieve this level?? :confused:

[Geishawhelk]

Bible's love is much better

 

13:4 Love is patient and kind; it is not jealous or conceited or proud;

13:5 love is not ill-mannered or selfish or irritable; love does not keep a record of wrongs;

13:6 love is not happy with evil, but is happy with the truth.

13:7 Love never gives up; and its faith, hope, and patience never fail.

13:8 Love is eternal. There are inspired messages, but they are temporary; there are gifts of speaking in strange tongues, but they will cease; there is knowledge, but it will pass.

 

but as earthly human being, WHO ever achieve this level??

 

Gandhi? Mother Theresa? The Dalai Lama? The Buddha? Jesus?

 

They're all human.... we can all do the same with a little work.

It's not impossible, because their example proves it.

[Topper]

mandypandy,

 

What church are you attending? Most Christian religions do not condone multiple wives. Does your church leader have more than one wife? You can still have God and the blessings he has brought to your life without accepting polygamy. If your branch of Christianity is accepting of practicing polygamy, maybe you should consider finding a branch that does not.

 

Polygamy is illegal in the United States and in some areas the authorities are bringing the hammer down on men who are practicing polygamy. The "extra" wives (since only the first is legally recognized and lawful) and the many children are draining the welfare system because these men cannot afford all of these wives and children.

 

You are obviously uncomfortable with the idea of another wife. Stick with your gut because I expect your husband will try to brainwash you into changing your core beliefs.

 

On another note, it would be very helpful if you would use punctuation. It was hard to tell where one sentence ended and the next began in your posts. You get more responses when people can read and understand your situation.

 

This is an old Christian movement that at one time flourished in parts of Europe. In fact Martin Luther gave his blessing to some polygamist marriages. The practise died out over time. Seems that there isa revival of sorts for this in Europe and the US It seems to be based out of some Churches in New England.

Of course fundamentalist Mormons have been Polygamist for about 150 years. I do have a problem with marring 13 and 14 year old girls to much older men. I don't have any problems with consenting adults making any kind of arrangement that works for them.

Agree or Disagree with it it isa matter of religious freedom. I might give Christians a hard time. As long as they do not infringe on my believes, they have the right to practice their faith anyway they choose.

Our social norm is one man one wife. The OP has some concerns. Sounds like she would be unhappy in this type of a relationship. She should not at this point enter into a polygamist relationship.

I also agree with you about the welfare fraud that goes on with many polygamist. Pregnant woman should allow DNA testing to prove Fatherhood. If you are going to have 30 kids you need to be able to support those 30 kids. I know of one Polygamist leader who is said to have over 59 kids.

[dropdeadlegs]

I wish I had said in my first post that I personally respect any person's right to practice their own religious beliefs, so I'm saying that now.

 

I don't necessarily agree that polygamy should be illegal, just pointing out that it is here in the US. As Topper stated, what consenting adults do is their business, not mine.

 

If I could go back and edit, I would also change "brainwash" into "convince."

[lonelybird]

Gandhi? Mother Theresa? The Dalai Lama? The Buddha? Jesus?

 

They're all human.... we can all do the same with a little work.

It's not impossible, because their example proves it.

Actually I think about this from front to back, from back to front, I don't think I can be like Jesus, or even closer; so I got this conclusion after all He is son of God, I give up to be like him by MYSELF. I became more clingy to Him now

[Lizzie60]

Better yet, f*** the scripture and just think for yourself. Life's a lot easier that way.

 

BEST ADVICE I'VE READ ON THIS FORUM SO FAR!!!!!

 

Geeezzz I am stunned when I read posts like that ... oh never mind!

[Geishawhelk]

Actually I think about this from front to back, from back to front, I don't think I can be like Jesus, or even closer; so I got this conclusion after all He is son of God, I give up to be like him by MYSELF. I became more clingy to Him now

 

Then if you cannot be like him, you are undervaluing yourself.

 

Mind you, Gandhi said:

 

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. they are so unlike your Christ."

 

In many ways unfortunately, I know what he meant.

[lonelybird]

Then if you cannot be like him, you are undervaluing yourself.

 

Mind you, Gandhi said:

 

"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. they are so unlike your Christ."

 

In many ways unfortunately, I know what he meant.

gandhi does not like MANY people in that sense. so how about those gandhists? can they be like gandhi completely?

 

Can you or gandhi walk on water?

Can you or gandhi heal blind, lepper, cripple?

Can you or gandhi make wind quiet?

Can you or gandhi send Holy Spirit to people?

 

I cannot, so I admit it. sometimes I cannot even control my mind, at least I am honest here

[Geishawhelk]

gandhi does not like MANY people in that sense. so how about those gandhists? can they be like gandhi completely?

Yes, because he was not divine, and never claimed to be, so that's a simple thing...

 

Can you or gandhi walk on water?

Can you or gandhi heal blind, lepper, cripple?

Can you or gandhi make wind quiet?

Can you or gandhi send Holy Spirit to people?

 

No because these are manifestations of miracles and a divine being. If they happened at all, then they were to prove his divinity, not to make him more human.

Jesus never asked anyone to do these things. He just gave us the commandment to love one another as he loved us.

 

Unconditionally, with Grace, Wisdom and Compassion.

That's what it is to be like Christ.

 

 

I cannot, so I admit it. sometimes I cannot even control my mind, at least I am honest here

 

The control of one's mind is the ultimate challenge in Buddhism.

But I hear what you're saying -

 

"of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most!"

[Moai]

gandhi does not like MANY people in that sense. so how about those gandhists? can they be like gandhi completely?

 

Why not? Ghandi derived much of his behavior from secular philosophy. Ghandi was trying to be like Thoreau. Weird.

 

Can you or gandhi walk on water?

 

I can. In fact, anyone can. I saw Chris Angel do it on "Mindfreak". Since he is a human being who possesses no supernatural power, if he can do something I can do the same. I just need to learn the trick. And that is what it is, a trick. It is claimed that Jesus walked on water. Maybe he did. But is it reasonable to assume he was divine because he did so? If that is so, you must acknowledge the divinity of Chris Angel.

 

Your only evidence of the difference between Chris Angel and Jesus is that Jesus was written about in a 2,000 year old book by men who thought the Earth was flat, that the Sun revolves around it, and that demons make people sick. Since they were so vapidly wrong about things an elementary school child takes for granted today, why do you trust them about god?

 

Can you or gandhi heal blind, lepper, cripple?

 

Sure. I just have to go to medical school. Also, the reasons for the infirmity must be curable in a biological sense. There has never been, nor will there ever be a supernatural healing. Everyone who claims to do these things now is a demonstrable liar. Why was that not the case then, when ignorance was even more rampant?

 

To suggest otherwise it to suggest that the Sun did, in fact, revolve around the Earth and that when enough evidence came in to show that position to be wrong reality shifted to match it.

 

Can you or gandhi make wind quiet?

 

Of course not. Nobody can. Believe in the impossible all you like, but educated people will think you silly.

 

Can you or gandhi send Holy Spirit to people?

 

First, you must provide evidence that there is such a thing as the Holy Spirit. And given what you assert about the effects of said spirit, we can conclude that there is no such thing. You have claimed that the Holy Spirit helps you interpret the Bible correctly, because you seek God. So do others, yet they interpret the Bible differently from you. You claim the Holy Spirit helps you figure out who is a charlatan and who is not. Yet Benny Hinn and Peter Popoff are millionaires. I have asked repeatedly how this can be possible, and the question is met with deafening silence on your part, and the part of every other believer. We both know that you can't answer that question, and that to admit that is to admit a flaw in your superstition. But it is better for you, for some incalcuable reason to maintain your belief than it is to accept reality.

 

I cannot, so I admit it. sometimes I cannot even control my mind, at least I am honest here

 

Controlling the mind is difficult, to be sure.

 

As far as the original post goes, it is obvious that the man in question wants to have his cake and eat it to. Why anyone would consult a book written by ignorant shepherds that were totally wigged out about sexuality is beyond me, but it happens all the time.

 

In our culture we are expected to be monogamous. It would seem that this is the more rational position, since we don't have honor killings, dowry murder, etc.

[bluetuesday]

Jesus never asked anyone to do these things. He just gave us the commandment to love one another as he loved us.

 

Unconditionally, with Grace, Wisdom and Compassion.

That's what it is to be like Christ.

 

jesus never made a commandment that people should perform miracles.

 

he is recorded, however, as saying that those who believed in him would do the works that he did, and greater works. (john 14:12)

 

one conclusion to draw from that is that jesus didn't think he was any more inherently special than other people and that the ability to perform miracles isn't a mark of particular divinity.

 

another would be that since most professed christians cannot perform miracles, jesus' definition of 'belief' meant something other than just accepting him as the son of god - it meant BEING like him, something he clearly thought was possible and something the early followers who wrote down the gospels didn't think was so wacky they'd better leave it out.

[lonelybird]

No because these are manifestations of miracles and a divine being. If they happened at all, then they were to prove his divinity, not to make him more human.

Jesus never asked anyone to do these things. He just gave us the commandment to love one another as he loved us.

 

Unconditionally, with Grace, Wisdom and Compassion.

That's what it is to be like Christ.

Good post!

[Topper]

jesus never made a commandment that people should perform miracles.

 

he is recorded, however, as saying that those who believed in him would do the works that he did, and greater works. (john 14:12)

 

one conclusion to draw from that is that jesus didn't think he was any more inherently special than other people and that the ability to perform miracles isn't a mark of particular divinity.

 

another would be that since most professed christians cannot perform miracles, jesus' definition of 'belief' meant something other than just accepting him as the son of god - it meant BEING like him, something he clearly thought was possible and something the early followers who wrote down the gospels didn't think was so wacky they'd better leave it out.

 

 

Interesting post Bluetuesday,A very Gnostic view of Jesus.