Author Lizzie60 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 Here is a post from Lizzie: "Certainly, you have every right to provide your opinion and I will never tell you not to. We are all entitle to our own opinions, this is a public forum. This is why forums are so interesting... imagine if we would always agree with everyone, it would be rather boring." Why is it that when the opinion is unfavorable, it's a problem? You are 'adapting' my post to a different context... You can twist any posts if you want... I know who I am and I am very confident with myself... I feel sad for both of you really... you are very immature and acting in a childish way... so maybe you should both go play with your barbies. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 Hey Lizzie only about 600 views and you beat the record. How proud you must be! and I have no intention to beat any record... but hey...if you help me..why not? LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I haven't read this post before... but AC also posted something that the mods have posted... I find it odd that these kinds of guidelines are all over ...but the mods let this go on like that. Isn't that strange? If you go to Community Guidelines it's all there. You play by the rules....some "other" posters here could benefit from paying the Community Guidelines a thorough visit. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 When someone goes on and on about their looks, then it only makes sense for another person to give an opinion on the subject. It's not like I just came out of the blue and called her ugly. That makes sense in who's head? To me what you just said makse no sense at all. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 You are 'adapting' my post to a different context... You can twist any posts if you want... I know who I am and I am very confident with myself... I feel sad for both of you really... you are very immature and acting in a childish way... so maybe you should both go play with your barbies. No post twisting going on. Unlike myself, TBF takes you seriously and has been trying to help you. But since you can't see that, you resort to the name calling. Funny how it's fine when you do it, but against the forum rules when it's done to you. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I feel sad for both of you really... you are very immature and acting in a childish way... so maybe you should both go play with your barbies. Lizzie, this is once again, typical of your technique to devalue peoples' opinions that don't agree with yours. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 This forum is about helping others. This includes tough love. If someone can be helped through this type of methodology, so be it. Her lifestyle choice is not a healthy one, regardless. Once again, the beauty of LS is hearing all opinions. Shuuuuuuudaaaaaap! First of all WHO was asking for help in this thread? Second of all, who asked for your advice here or tough love? Third of all Shuuuuuuuudaaap! LOL Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 That makes sense in who's head? To me what you just said makse no sense at all. Very simple, but I'll try to explain it again. There was a conversation going on about looks. I joined in on the conversation that was about looks and gave my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Shuuuuuuudaaaaaap! First of all WHO was asking for help in this thread? Second of all, who asked for your advice here or tough love? Third of all Shuuuuuuuudaaap! LOL Very nice words indeed! Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Very simple, but I'll try to explain it again. There was a conversation going on about looks. I joined in on the conversation that was about looks and gave my opinion. hn, this isn't worth it anymore. If you refer to the above posts, particularly from TC, you will see the level of grade school immaturity. Link to post Share on other sites
Herzen Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Shuuuuuuudaaaaaap! First of all WHO was asking for help in this thread? Second of all, who asked for your advice here or tough love? Third of all Shuuuuuuuudaaap! LOL Post No. 596 was much more than mere opinion or "tough love." It was an "ugly" personal attack on another LS member--one the Guidelines specifically prohibit. The post demeaned; it did not help. "Tough love" is no license to insult, berate, attack and belittle. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Very nice words indeed! Good now that I stooped to your level you finally understand! WHO was asking for advice please, if either you or TBF would please point out at what point in this whole thread was Lizzie asking for advice? I seemed to have missed that post...? Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 You are 'adapting' my post to a different context... You can twist any posts if you want... I know who I am and I am very confident with myself... I feel sad for both of you really... you are very immature and acting in a childish way... so maybe you should both go play with your barbies. I have to admit, I love Barbies. Always have. One of my favorite things to do with my daughter is play Barbies. She's at school, so if it's OK, I'll wait until she gets home. It's much more fun when she's here to play with. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Post No. 596 was much more than mere opinion or "tough love." It was an "ugly" personal attack on another LS member--one the Guidelines specifically prohibit. The post demeaned; it did not help. "Tough love" is no license to insult, berate, attack and belittle. I totally agree, I was in total agreement with you. Not sure why you quoted my last post that was in response to TBF. She says she needs to offer "tough love and advice" here for Lizzie when there was NONE solicited. I didn't see one post in this whole thread with Lizzie asking for advice!?!? Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Good now that I stooped to your level you finally understand! WHO was asking for advice please, if either you or TBF would please point out at what point in this whole thread was Lizzie asking for advice? I seemed to have missed that post...? Please show me where I have ever tried to give her advice. I have always said that she seems happy with her life and so be it. Other people read here and I feel that maybe my opinion will have some value to them. I have nothing of value to say to you or Lizzie. I'm sure you agree with me on this one. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I totally agree, I was in total agreement with you. Not sure why you quoted my last post that was in response to TBF. She says she needs to offer "tough love and advice" here for Lizzie when there was NONE solicited. I didn't see one post in this whole thread with Lizzie asking for advice!?!? Do people on open forums require solicitation of advice before anyone gives their opinion? If it's blatantly obvious that someone is living a lifestyle that's unhealthy, I would think that most people, like the many LS members in this thread, would try to provide well-meaning advice. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I have nothing of value to say to you or Lizzie. I'm sure you agree with me on this one. I think you are being really hard on yourself. The odd time I've seem some valid things posted by you..... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 I totally agree, I was in total agreement with you. Not sure why you quoted my last post that was in response to TBF. She says she needs to offer "tough love and advice" here for Lizzie when there was NONE solicited. I didn't see one post in this whole thread with Lizzie asking for advice!?!? I never asked for advices... As I said many times, I know what I want and what I don't want. I live by strictly by MY rules.. even with the men in my life... This thread started with my introductory post... I thought this forum was about OW\OM to share their stories, good or bad... but I got blasted right from the start... For a while I was confused... but then I quickly realized what was going on... and now, to be honest... the arrogance just fly about 50 ft over my head... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 Please show me where I have ever tried to give her advice. I have always said that she seems happy with her life and so be it. Other people read here and I feel that maybe my opinion will have some value to them. I have nothing of value to say to you or Lizzie. I'm sure you agree with me on this one. on this one... so if you can restrain from posting to me... every body will be happy... because to be honest with you.. you're both totally wasting your time if you're trying to 'reform' me... LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Do people on open forums require solicitation of advice before anyone gives their opinion? If it's blatantly obvious that someone is living a lifestyle that's unhealthy, I would think that most people, like the many LS members in this thread, would try to provide well-meaning advice. I dunnow isn't that what you said to justify your personal attacks on Lizzie and her choice in lifestyle? So which is it are you giving advice or not? Because when someone gives advice it ususally happens after it has been asked. Otherwise you are deemed as someone who is nosey and judgemental. To me that's the difference between offering an opinion VS attacking someone's who's opinions don't mesh with our own. Link to post Share on other sites
Herzen Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I totally agree, I was in total agreement with you. Not sure why you quoted my last post that was in response to TBF. She says she needs to offer "tough love and advice" here for Lizzie when there was NONE solicited. I didn't see one post in this whole thread with Lizzie asking for advice!?!? Sorry, I quoted your post by mistake. I wanted to quote TBF's 'tough love" post. I caught my mistake immediately, but I wasn't permitted to edit for some bizarre reason. That's what happens when one posts in the middle of work. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 on this one... so if you can restrain from posting to me... every body will be happy... because to be honest with you.. you're both totally wasting your time if you're trying to 'reform' me... LOL That's the bottom line, these "moral puritan good samaritans that come on here trying to reform people who don't want to be reformed just don't get it. But they think that beating a dead horse a 1,000000000000 times is going to make a difference. And then they get frustrated when their "advice" doesn't sink in. LOL it's just funny. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I think you are being really hard on yourself. The odd time I've seem some valid things posted by you..... Not on this thread. I know that there is nothing I can say that will change the way Lizzie lives her life. She is happy and as much as I can't understand it, I have no desire to fight it. I'm just giving my opinion and that's all. Even Lizzie says that we should all be able to post our opinions. On the other hand TBF is trying to help Lizzie and all she gets are insults. If Lizzie started this post to tell the world she is happy doing what she is doing, then she has done that. But, she continues to try and convince everyone that she looks great and has a great life, and some of us just plain disagree with the lifestyle. Just our opinion nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Lizzie60 Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 That's the bottom line, these "moral puritan good samaritans that come on here trying to reform people who don't want to be reformed just don't get it. But they think that beating a dead horse a 1,000000000000 times is going to make a difference. And then they get frustrated when their "advice" doesn't sink in. LOL it's just funny. I couldn't have said it better... LOL I wish but my English is not as good as my French...so there is a language limitation for me... but you summarized what this is all about... Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I dunnow isn't that what you said to justify your personal attacks on Lizzie and her choice in lifestyle? So which is it are you giving advice or not? Because when someone gives advice it ususally happens after it has been asked. Otherwise you are deemed as someone who is nosey and judgemental. To me that's the difference between offering an opinion VS attacking someone's who's opinions don't mesh with our own. And that would be your opinion. In using your own logic, I did not ask for your advice or opinion, therefore you cannot provide it to me. Link to post Share on other sites
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