Woggle Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I hear all these men desperately trying to hold on to women that cheat on them, belittle them and generally treat them like garbage but these men act like they will die when these women leave. Why wouldn't a man be thrilled to have a woman like this out of his life? I have a question to ask these men. When you were single and you thought about the ideal woman did you imagine a woman that has little to no regard for your feelings or if she hurts you? Did you imagine a woman that has no guilt at all over the pain she causes the man that she promised to love? Why do you even want a woman like this? Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I hear all these women desperately trying to hold on to men that cheat on them, belittle them and generally treat them like garbage but these women act like they will die when these men leave. Why wouldn't a woman be thrilled to have a man like this out of his life? I have a question to ask these women. When you were single and you thought about the ideal man did you imagine a man that has little to no regard for your feelings or if he hurts you? Did you imagine a man that has no guilt at all over the pain he causes the man that he promised to love? Why do you even want a man like this? I changed the genders. Do you understand how it works both ways? Link to post Share on other sites
hurting_in_nw Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Well I think a lot of it has more to do with holding on to the person you thought they were as opposed to the person he/she turned out to be...I know in my situation when I'm in my right mind, I don't want her back, and agree with what you are saying Woggle. However there are times when you think about what used to be, and what could have been, and that is more of what I want to hold on to...not the person she's become. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Ideally, it would be nice if men and women who were cheated on were able to grasp that concept, but if they awere able to grasp that concept, then places like this would not exist, but my point is not everyone is strong enough mentally to do that. Through time some men and women develop a mental connection to another person and even after being hurt, they are unable to break that connection. Through time they made themselves dependent on the other person and that is why some can't break away from the cheating spouse. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 I hear all these women desperately trying to hold on to men that cheat on them, belittle them and generally treat them like garbage but these women act like they will die when these men leave. Why wouldn't a woman be thrilled to have a man like this out of his life? I have a question to ask these women. When you were single and you thought about the ideal man did you imagine a man that has little to no regard for your feelings or if he hurts you? Did you imagine a man that has no guilt at all over the pain he causes the man that he promised to love? Why do you even want a man like this? I changed the genders. Do you understand how it works both ways?yeah, but it loses the ring of truth to it when you switch genders Link to post Share on other sites
sumdude Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Because people change, circumstances happen... in the heat of the moment confusion reigns. Obviously most fall in love with someone and marry them expecting the best. Somewhere along the line life happens and things change. You have to keep some little hope in there, at least for a while. No point in losing faith all the time. But at some point you have to face reality too. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 I hear all these women desperately trying to hold on to men that cheat on them, belittle them and generally treat them like garbage but these women act like they will die when these men leave. Why wouldn't a woman be thrilled to have a man like this out of his life? I have a question to ask these women. When you were single and you thought about the ideal man did you imagine a man that has little to no regard for your feelings or if he hurts you? Did you imagine a man that has no guilt at all over the pain he causes the man that he promised to love? Why do you even want a man like this? I changed the genders. Do you understand how it works both ways? It does sometimes but these it is mostly women doing it to men. Link to post Share on other sites
kepners Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 samdude, your right, I kinda call it blind faith in goodness or not believing facts in your face Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy and Jane Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 It does sometimes but these it is mostly women doing it to men. That is so wrong. You just say that because a woman cheated on you that it is women doing most of the cheating. That is such bull. Anyway, love is a complicated thing. You can't turn feelings off and on like a water faucet, even if you were wronged. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Woggle Posted May 12, 2007 Author Share Posted May 12, 2007 That is so wrong. You just say that because a woman cheated on you that it is women doing most of the cheating. That is such bull. Most women today seem to have little to no regard for the man in their life. He is just a tool to be used and discarded to them. Of course there are exceptions but for the most part this is the current state of affairs. Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy and Jane Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 yeah, but it loses the ring of truth to it when you switch genders How is that? Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy and Jane Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Woggle, get off the women - bashing boards and start living in the real world. Link to post Share on other sites
kepners Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 its a 50'50 thing i have neer cheated on a woman and have been cheated on twice... one was... very complicated, but on the other hand, i have ALOT of friends who cheat and do it often. i mean, my dad cheated on my mum. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 its a 50'50 thing i have neer cheated on a woman and have been cheated on twice... one was... very complicated, but on the other hand, i have ALOT of friends who cheat and do it often. i mean, my dad cheated on my mum. Exactly. It is complete and utter BS to say that one gender does it more than the other. Woggle is just stuck on this concept of men vs. women thing, like its a war. Link to post Share on other sites
Teddy and Jane Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 To be fair, I did read an article on MSN that women's infidelity is rising, but is still not up to the percentage of men who have cheated on their wives (40% of women have cheated, as compared to 50% of men). However it would be 50/50 because if you have a woman cheating on her husband, you most likely also have a man who is cheating on his wife or girlfriend, also, unless he is single. Link to post Share on other sites
kepners Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 yeah i agree. i know i feel like i am the only one who seems to get it, but i fo have ALOT of friends who do it... and you know what... its because its easier to pull women when your with someone, they all tell me women find it much more attractive! Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 To be fair, I did read an article on MSN that women's infidelity is rising, but is still not up to the percentage of men who have cheated on their wives (40% of women have cheated, as compared to 50% of men). However it would be 50/50 because if you have a woman cheating on her husband, you most likely also have a man who is cheating on his wife or girlfriend, also, unless he is single. You also have to consider the number that are untraceable. Unfortunately not every cheater is caught. The bottom line is that both genders cheat, so no gender is worse or better then the other. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 yeah, but it loses the ring of truth to it when you switch genders Is woggle affecting your sensibility? You will find men and women aren't so different in basic need. There are deficient people in both genders, which is what cheaters are. To blanket one gender due to the actions of a few samples in life, isn't very healthy or for that matter, right in any way. It's like me saying, I will hate all dogs for the rest of my life because when I was 3 years old, one bit me. Now I know all dogs are after me and want to bite everyone they come into contact with but they need to get fed so they pretend to be nice doggies. If my example sounds sane to you, I will be calling you woggle2... Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 Is woggle affecting your sensibility? You will find men and women aren't so different in basic need. There are deficient people in both genders, which is what cheaters are. To blanket one gender due to the actions of a few samples in life, isn't very healthy or for that matter, right in any way. It's like me saying, I will hate all dogs for the rest of my life because when I was 3 years old, one bit me. Now I know all dogs are after me and want to bite everyone they come into contact with but they need to get fed so they pretend to be nice doggies. If my example sounds sane to you, I will be calling you woggle2... And here I thought I was the only one repeating myself over and over. You can use any type of terminology you want to, but I still don't see him catching a glimpse of light/reality. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 And here I thought I was the only one repeating myself over and over. You can use any type of terminology you want to, but I still don't see him catching a glimpse of light/reality. It's so bizarre. I can't even fathom hating so indiscriminantly. In some ways it's almost frightening because indiscriminant hatred historically lead to the KKK and Nazi mentality. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 It's so bizarre. I can't even fathom hating so indiscriminantly. In some ways it's almost frightening because indiscriminant hatred historically lead to the KKK and Nazi mentality. That is true....... I hope that I don't ever hear about Woggle setting up a concentration camp in his back yard and have women caged up in it. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 That is true....... I hope that I don't ever hear about Woggle setting up a concentration camp in his back yard and have women caged up in it. Eeek...where is his wife? Link to post Share on other sites
ilmw Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 That is true....... I hope that I don't ever hear about Woggle setting up a concentration camp in his back yard and have women caged up in it. Hmmm...that sound kinky... Ummm NO.. I mean very very..wrong.. Link to post Share on other sites
kepners Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 WOOWOOW WOOO..... listen up here. you firstly cannot compare nazism with this!!! or the KKK... please. secondly both those two comparision are based on IDEALS NOT INDISCIMATE HATERED!!! nazism, was that the jewish people where taking all the jobs and money, german was becoming weak and the germans folk who had lived there for thousands of years began to feel the jewish people well taking germany away from them. hilter came to power on the back of offer people jobs and better living! NOT LETS KILL EVERYONE!! PLEASEEEEEE!!! u have actually pissed me off with that riduclas uneducated voice! it never was hate, it wasnt indiscrimant, its no differnt to you lot voting in Wbush, then going to war on everyone. what would have happened if europe had said OI bush no! there would have been a world war... i dont want to carry on with this, but you brought it up in the most uneducated way... and remember the similarities between your demoncates and 30's germany isnt that far off. sorry for being a nerd, but its somehting i know alot about. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted May 12, 2007 Share Posted May 12, 2007 WOOWOOW WOOO..... listen up here. you firstly cannot compare nazism with this!!! or the KKK... please. secondly both those two comparision are based on IDEALS NOT INDISCIMATE HATERED!!! nazism, was that the jewish people where taking all the jobs and money, german was becoming weak and the germans folk who had lived there for thousands of years began to feel the jewish people well taking germany away from them. hilter came to power on the back of offer people jobs and better living! NOT LETS KILL EVERYONE!! PLEASEEEEEE!!! u have actually pissed me off with that riduclas uneducated voice! it never was hate, it wasnt indiscrimant, its no differnt to you lot voting in Wbush, then going to war on everyone. what would have happened if europe had said OI bush no! there would have been a world war... i dont want to carry on with this, but you brought it up in the most uneducated way... and remember the similarities between your demoncates and 30's germany isnt that far off. sorry for being a nerd, but its somehting i know alot about. If I had a dollar for every post that I read on here where a woman hater was complaining that women joining the workforce has caused men to lose some of their pay ........... Link to post Share on other sites
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