Author lonelybird Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 some of us want nothing to do with the commandments of your god maybe you don't want to, but maybe there are persons who see the post, can be saved, which I am sure because Holy Spirit told me so. But you cannot know how Holy Spirit works. YOu don't want to do anything with my God, please stand by, don't try to shut me up Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Please show me the post I hurt others. Dude she doesn't need to show you posts...she's TELLING you straight up that she finds you offensive. Why is it all about YOU and YOUR feelings? Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Dude she doesn't need to show you posts...she's TELLING you straight up that she finds you offensive. Why is it all about YOU and YOUR feelings? Well, it can be certain rebuke for flesh things, this will get people dislike my post, so I want to see which exactly post HURT your feelings? If God's commandment offend you, then you can accuse me hurt your feelings as well Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 For all the things you all accuse me, please quote and show evidence, so I can have self-check? Reread your own postings. Link to post Share on other sites
amaysngrace Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Um...on second thought... I'm not looking to debate this 'bang-my-head-against-the-wall' discussion any further. I'm off to the beach! Peace out. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Dude she doesn't need to show you posts...she's TELLING you straight up that she finds you offensive. Why is it all about YOU and YOUR feelings? Is that my willing to hold on God's commandment offend you or what? Is this comment "sleep around is not good" offend people, then I should not say it, is that what you meant? Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Reread your own postings. Yes, I left room for moderate, but you cannot really offer evidence here. Just mock message carrier Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Dude she doesn't need to show you posts...she's TELLING you straight up that she finds you offensive. Why is it all about YOU and YOUR feelings? Correct. If someone is to post that all homosexuals should burn in hell because a book says so, I will hold that poster responsible for that post, not the book they quote. If someone starts posting quotes and ideas that a person(s) of a race is a lesser being(s) I will also hold the poster responsible for that offensive statement. So tell me again my M is lesser than one with religion or of a differing religion involved and I will say that poster is offensive to me. I will not blame a book or other source of info that they state the original idea came from. Keep repeating such things on a myriad of topics stating "all those unlike me-that think differently are lesser beings" and I eventually will tell you "thank goodness I am not like you" Tolerance is a 2 way street. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Um...on second thought... I'm not looking to debate this 'bang-my-head-against-the-wall' discussion any further. I'm off to the beach! Peace out. Word- I may go hit the pool! BRICK! Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Correct. If someone is to post that all homosexuals should burn in hell because a book says so, I will hold that poster responsible for that post, not the book they quote. If someone starts posting quotes and ideas that a person(s) of a race is a lesser being(s) I will also hold the poster responsible for that offensive statement. So tell me again my M is lesser than one with religion or of a differing religion involved and I will say that poster is offensive to me. I will not blame a book or other source of info that they state the original idea came from. Keep repeating such things on a myriad of topics stating "all those unlike me-that think differently are lesser beings" and I eventually will tell you "thank goodness I am not like you" Tolerance is a 2 way street. When did I say your M is lesser or athesist's marriage is lesser? Please quote my original post. And Bible teach human being's value, not devalue. All human being are equal. I don't know where you get this idea Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 When did I say your M is lesser or athesist's marriage is lesser? Please quote my original post. And Bible teach human being's value, not devalue. All human being are equal. I don't know where you get this idea Is my atheist marriage as wonderful as a christian marriage? Should it be treated with the same respect? Is it as meaningful? Should I convert so my marriage will be more meaningful and lasting? Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Christians like yourself do not treat people equally. They espouse and advocate discrimination. You guys are ok when it comes to feeding the homeless or clothing the poor, when it comes to sex and marriage, you're way way off. If your god cared about marriage and family, it'd be doing something about that whole molesting boys thing that Christians seem to have trouble with. When did I say your M is lesser or athesist's marriage is lesser? Please quote my original post. And Bible teach human being's value, not devalue. All human being are equal. I don't know where you get this idea Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Lonely Bird why are you not answering my simple questions? Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted June 8, 2007 Author Share Posted June 8, 2007 Is my atheist marriage as wonderful as a christian marriage? Should it be treated with the same respect? Is it as meaningful? Should I convert so my marriage will be more meaningful and lasting? Your marriage is YOURS. So if it is wonderful and meaningful or not, it all depends how you feel and think. As a outsider I do wish all couples have wonderful marriages and add this world some merries. As for convert or not, it also depends on YOU. Nobody knows what happens tomorrow except God tell them. But if you got a wonderful pie which can make many people aren't hungry any more, won't you want to share? We don't and shouldn't look unbelievers as lesser. The Bible teach "believers weren't saved because they are righteous enough, or holier enough, but saved by God's grace and mercy; nobody can boast about by doing good works or by abide by the law, but be humble all the time" Yes, in Bible there are many good stuff about spiritual fruits, these fruits are our goals. Link to post Share on other sites
OpenBook Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Marriage is a too for spiritual growth Marriage is an excellent way to follow Christ`s command to "Come, take up your cross and follow me":rolleyes: Hey Road Rage, have you seen this one: "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." I think Benjamin Franklin said that. Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 I haven't seen Lonelybird explicitly state that secular marriages are inferior, though she does often generate that perception by only ever comparing a God-oriented marriage with selfish lust and carnality as if it is the only alternative. Lonelybird - Perhaps some advice. It is often said that actions speak far louder than words, and that the best witness for your beliefs is a positive example rather than relentless preaching on an online forum. I understand that you think you have something wonderful to share with the rest of the world, but your efforts are misguided and the arguments and ill feeling that result do a disservice to your calling. Practitioners of Buddhism, for example, mostly do not share the Dharma unless first asked. This is more respectful and more effective, I think. Perhaps you could take a leaf from their book? Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Your marriage is YOURS. So if it is wonderful and meaningful or not, it all depends how you feel and think. As a outsider I do wish all couples have wonderful marriages and add this world some merries. As for convert or not, it also depends on YOU. Nobody knows what happens tomorrow except God tell them. But if you got a wonderful pie which can make many people aren't hungry any more, won't you want to share? We don't and shouldn't look unbelievers as lesser. The Bible teach "believers weren't saved because they are righteous enough, or holier enough, but saved by God's grace and mercy; nobody can boast about by doing good works or by abide by the law, but be humble all the time" Yes, in Bible there are many good stuff about spiritual fruits, these fruits are our goals. You have previously posted that god created marriage... I don't believe in god so if god created marriage then my marriage does not exist? I have some excellent cherries in my frig right now. I don't get the fruit/goal thing. Keep in mind some people don't like pie. Some people are not hungry either. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 God made you, but you don't believe in God, doesn't mean "a4a doesn't exist", does it? The same you don't believe in God, doesn't mean "God doesn't exist" Anyone who married in church vowed before God, they should respect that vow, and work out things even in tough times, not just follow their selfish needs. Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Really, Lonelybird, what is the point? Everybody has made their position very well known to each other. You're not going to change anybody's mind by telling people over and over again the same things. They're aware of your position and you're not telling them anything they haven't heard before. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 Really, Lonelybird, what is the point? Everybody has made their position very well known to each other. You're not going to change anybody's mind by telling people over and over again the same things. They're aware of your position and you're not telling them anything they haven't heard before. Cheers, D. I wonder why you try to tell me same thing over and over again. get off my neck please, will you? Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I wonder why you try to tell me same thing over and over again. get off my neck please, will you? Yes You got it! Exactly! Link to post Share on other sites
a4a Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 God made you, but you don't believe in God, doesn't mean "a4a doesn't exist", does it? The same you don't believe in God, doesn't mean "God doesn't exist" Anyone who married in church vowed before God, they should respect that vow, and work out things even in tough times, not just follow their selfish needs. well I did not marry in a church... nor was god mentioned in any of our ceremony..... leavig a marriage is not always a selfish choice, at times it is a matter of survival. Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 God made you, but you don't believe in God, doesn't mean "a4a doesn't exist", does it? The same you don't believe in God, doesn't mean "God doesn't exist" Anyone who married in church vowed before God, they should respect that vow, and work out things even in tough times, not just follow their selfish needs. selfish needs? One could say that you as well are being selfish because you want everyone to believe what you believe, exactly the way that you believe it and to the degree that you believe it as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Author lonelybird Posted June 17, 2007 Author Share Posted June 17, 2007 selfish needs? One could say that you as well are being selfish because you want everyone to believe what you believe, exactly the way that you believe it and to the degree that you believe it as well. God's way is happy, rejoice, and peace way. If someone don't want these, and "I just want to be miserable", then nobody can force another. Link to post Share on other sites
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