status -in relationship and dating, money, status, job title and money money is impo

[Topper]

Konfuzed, I say good for you. Now let me ask how many other woman who have a career such as yours are willing to date down so to speak?

Maybe i am believing the myth who knows/ i would like to find out if other career woman with a high incomes are will willing to take a look at blue collor guys.

[bab]

Nobody really loves being a truck driver...

 

My older brother loves being a truck driver. He knew he wanted to be one since he started high school. His senior year in high school he would get out early so he could drive the school bus for the elementary school because he was so excited about driving a truck. No, he's not extremely intelligent, but he's honest, caring, and a hard worker. He would be a wonderful catch.

[Topper]

A benefit to being married to a truck driver is he would not be home all the time. You would have the place to yourself most of the time.

[joel]

oh ya they might go out once in a while get a couple of date -ah ya. but no way a girl goin keep a guy with lower education and income and just lower status for long. once she find taht guy who is one notch or higher status -that lower status guy will be dumped.

 

girls just don;t keep lower status guys around for long, yea they hook up with em , date, hang out one to 3 dates, what not , just not and not for long. its just not goin to lasts.

 

would u even be friends with a person who had lower education, lower income, than u. i now i won;t

[che_jesse]

Yes Joel, you are correct. A woman will never ever go out with a man that:

* Has less education then her

* Makes less money then her

* Dresses in a way that is different then her

* Has any sort of piercings

* Does not have correct friends

* Does not help her climb the social ladder

 

This is the reason you cannot get a woman and of course it is none of your fault. Women are just shallow and selfish, you are a wonderful person with no flaws once so ever, the world is just created in such a way that absolutely bars you from ever finding a relationship. None of it is your fault.

 

Do you feel better now?

 

[RecordProducer]

so my chinese folks said how status is soooo important. oh you as the guy have to make the $$, have high education, and have and make lots lots of money. the women would love you. if don;t have it ,then u have to date down a girl with just a college diploma like u. or maybe not even one girl would date u.

So you have a college degree and don't want to go further, is that correct? I don't see anything wrong with your degree if that's the case and I think you can find a woman who even has a master's degree. But most likely a woman with a degree won't date a high-school graduate. Yet, it happens.

 

By rule, yes, women aim higher when it comes to education and status, not that they always get it. Men are more into looks. If you're not physically attractive, it pays to have the status. If you have nothing, no looks, no career, no social status, then you'll have to have some real good not-on-paper qualities to impress the girl.

 

I don't see anything wrong with truck drivers or garbage men; there are women for them out there too. A cute guy who has nothing is likely to find a cute girl who also has nothing. The rpoblem is that men want to date hot girls and everything turns around hot girls. When they say that women want money, power, and looks, they mean HOT women. Well, why do ya'll want to date hot women?

 

 

has a high mba degree, his family owns 2 houses, and the guy has lots lots of money in the bank.

His family? I couldn't care less about what his family has.

 

MBA stands for Master of Business Administration, which you probably know, but I think you are referring to ANY master's degree?

status is king.

Status is sexy. It brings authority and self-confidence.

[Krytellan]

oh ya they might go out once in a while get a couple of date -ah ya. but no way a girl goin keep a guy with lower education and income and just lower status for long. once she find taht guy who is one notch or higher status -that lower status guy will be dumped.

 

girls just don;t keep lower status guys around for long, yea they hook up with em , date, hang out one to 3 dates, what not , just not and not for long. its just not goin to lasts.

 

Well Joel, regardless of the truth, it's obvious this is "your" truth. It sounds very depressing to look at it from your point of view. If you believe in what you say that strongly, you will make it happen over and over again, so you never will date someone of higher "status" with thoughts like you have.

 

If I can provide a little evidence to debunk your theory, I have been dating a PA for oh... eight months or so. Granted we aren't married, but we are in a good and "as stable as can be for 8 month" relationship. We do both have Master's degrees, but I work in "frontline" Mental Health and earn less than 40k (and I'm at pay grade 10 of 13... sad huh?), while she is now earning well up to three times that with incentives.

 

She doesn't talk down to me. She admits to never being able to do what I do. And she appreciates what I do for people every day. She values me because I take care of her emotional and physical needs in a way that many high-earning (aka long hours) men could not do. It works because I let it. I know what I am and what I can provide, and what I can't. As much as it bothers me that I make so much less than her, I don't make it an issue. But also, I'm addressing why it matters to me for my own sake.

 

This might have been a lot of rambling for something that may not soak in. The point is it can only possibly work to the amount you are willing to let it. As you are now, everything you say is absolutely correct, unless you change what you think gives you value.

[FleshNBones]

would u even be friends with a person who had lower education, lower income, than u. i now i won;t

I have a post-graduate degree, and my closest friend is a highschool dropout. We were friends from childhood.

[FleshNBones]

By rule, yes, women aim higher when it comes to education and status, not that they always get it. Men are more into looks. If you're not physically attractive, it pays to have the status. If you have nothing, no looks, no career, no social status, then you'll have to have some real good not-on-paper qualities to impress the girl.

In my experience, women care about looks just as much. They just aren't honest about it.

I don't see anything wrong with truck drivers or garbage men; there are women for them out there too. A cute guy who has nothing is likely to find a cute girl who also has nothing. The rpoblem is that men want to date hot girls and everything turns around hot girls. When they say that women want money, power, and looks, they mean HOT women. Well, why do ya'll want to date hot women?

Women like to groom the hot guys into becoming successful and reliable men. Like that ever works.

 

I don't know if I am into hot girls. I thought about it, and I just don't feel anything past infatuation. I would prefer a balanced manageable woman with average looks.

 

P.S. A cute girl with nothing is still better than a girl in deep debt.

[blue_eyes18]

I can't believe you are that worried about it like that. I'm sorry your family made you feel / think that way. Here in America, there are all types of women baby. You know the ones who go after men just for their money ( money that some men gain because of education, some inhereit it?) Well, a lot of those women that do that are called whores. Or users. Have you ever known anyone like that or seen how ugly those situations can get? I have! Anyways, I'm sure you have the ability to filter those types out, hopefully. You should date someone who accepts you for who you are. You should do something with yourself though! I like how the guy talking about Bill Gates in that other reply worded it.

I know plenty of girls, pretty girls, who are rich or whatever, going to universities and stuff like you are talking about, and they let men use them and treat them like s*** or their guy is on drugs real bad, and they are miserable in a way. And the guy is just using them cause it's convenient, or cause the girl is rich, or pretty, or whatever, and it's just convenient! That's not love! Also, there are men that are really rich around here and date decent, moral women, even if they aren't rich. I don't think that a 4 year degree makes the person. So if you think that just because someone holds a 4 year degree, they are suddenly God, then you are sadly mistaken. There are all types of people out there, men and women. If you want an education, do it for the right reasons. YOURSELF. Not because you family thinks it will attract some whore that went to college. I am going to college, and I'm not a whore. I am simply trying to say that going to college isn't going to attract miss perfect. You might end up having a larger selection, but there would be a lot of fakes, too. (Whores, haha) Sorry, that's just how I see it. I am really not mean ya'll! haha I guess maybe your family told you all of that so you would get a good education and take care of yourself. I assure you, you can go to be a doctor, pharmacist, lawyer, whatever, and if you are with the wrong person, they can make your life a living hell. But please, do go to college if you can, hon, for yourself! Why not?

I'm out like a fat kid in dodgeball! have a great day!

[blue_eyes18]

Yeah, status can be great, but there are a lot of drug addicted, no-good, aids infested folks out there with money in the bank. And liars, all that stuff. Just remember to look at the person inside when you do find someone with a lot of money or "status". My mother came from one of the richest families with one of the highest repeutations in town. my grandparents were absolutely wonderful people, but you should see my mom now.

Just look at the person inside, too. Like I mentioned several times before.

[blue_eyes18]

Oh, excuse me, everyone, that I had a big fat typo in my last post! HAHA Im in a hurry. I just had to post my opinion when I read this post.

[Mary3]

listen to your elders because they know best. my parents told me this countless times and even straight out say that women love power/looks/money.

 

Not true.

 

Chemistry ....

[taiko]

Not true.

 

Chemistry ....

The problem is that the atoms of that chemistry is money, status, power and looks. Without that initial attraction those atoms provide it takes someone putting in a whole lot of energy to make a reaction occur.

 

We are all different so we all have a different ideal on which is more important. For political geeks power and status may be most important. For a celebrity groupie status and looks. For others your potential ability as a family provider. And still what's most important to us today may drop in relative significance next year.

 

your parents are right a Harvard education opens more doors and give you more options initially then a high school dropout will have.

[ddnnee]

Not true.

 

Chemistry ....

 

you're right! chemistry... the biochemistry that floods the girl's body and strikes her brain saying "find a strong man to support the family and the kids". girls shouldn't deny the fact that they want a good and rich husband to provide their offspring with everything they need to be healthy. this behavior runs deep in all animals that we know as "natural selection". the strongest man gets all the chicks so that he can pass on his gene.

 

idealists will cover this up and say, "no no no, its love! love has nothing to do with money and status because i am a child that still believes in princes and santa clause." you kids watch too many movies with "happily ever after endings" and should step into the real world and witness real people.

 

anyone who denies my logic is obviously a fat kid that reads too many love stories/watches too many movies.

[Mary3]

you're right! chemistry... the biochemistry that floods the girl's body and strikes her brain saying "find a strong man to support the family and the kids". girls shouldn't deny the fact that they want a good and rich husband to provide their offspring with everything they need to be healthy. this behavior runs deep in all animals that we know as "natural selection". the strongest man gets all the chicks so that he can pass on his gene.

 

idealists will cover this up and say, "no no no, its love! love has nothing to do with money and status because i am a child that still believes in princes and santa clause." you kids watch too many movies with "happily ever after endings" and should step into the real world and witness real people.

 

anyone who denies my logic is obviously a fat kid that reads too many love stories/watches too many movies.

 

It's more like : " no no....he's got money and he's such an arrogant jerk , why did my friend introduce me to him ?, he's got nothing going except his bank account and an empty head of pompous additude. "

 

Ohhhh ...but look at that guy over there sending shivers down my spine. Look at that smile ! He's much more warm and approachable than Daddy Bucks !

[FleshNBones]

I came across a nice article on Yahoo. I knew physical appearance was near the top if not the top, but I am suprised to find fidelity at the top.

 

http://www.livescience.com/health/060213_attraction_rules.html

People who rated themselves favorably as long-term partners were more particular about the attributes of potential mates. After fidelity, the most important attributes were physical appearance, family commitment, and wealth and status.

Sorry man, you just aren't pretty enough for the ladies.

[Mary3]

I came across a nice article on Yahoo. I knew physical appearance was near the top if not the top, but I am suprised to find fidelity at the top.

 

http://www.livescience.com/health/060213_attraction_rules.html

 

Sorry man, you just aren't pretty enough for the ladies.

 

That was a great article and I really enjoyed reading it !

[ddnnee]

the article says that a couple are happier if they have similar genes... i guess it means you will find someone more like you, but around here in california, i see mix racial dating a lot, especially among asian girls and their X boyfriend (where X = african, mexican, white, any race but asian).

[Chingy]

My dear Joel,

 

If you are so concerned about not being able to get a date because of your current education/wealth/status, then here is my suggestion. Apply to a MD/MBA program and then land a job in health care management. Problem solved!

[cutegirl]

I'm asian and I make A LOT MORE than my bf and I LIKE it that way. I like to be the breadwinner. I don't like my boyfriend being a lot more successful than me. I am extremely competitive. I'm not traditional at all. I don't like a guy paying for me or buying me things. I actually AVOID men with money because they are more likely to cheat.

 

From MSNBC http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17951664/page/2/

 

"For men with money, infidelity is just another perk. Among men making more than $300,000 a year, 32 percent report cheating, compared to 21 percent of men making less than $35,000 a year."

 

Men who are more successful tend to be jerks and have a sense of entitlement. I would actually never date a very successful or wealthy man. It is not a plus in my book but a minus. Not all women are gold diggers you know. Some are even more successful than most MEN. TAKE THAT.

 

I don't NEED a man to take care of me. I am independent. I take care of myself.

 

I don't necessarily believe that you need to be well educated in order to become wealthy. In order to become wealthy you need to be FINANCIALLY LITERATE, not necessarily book smart. I never graduated college, but I feel like I am a lot more successful than a lot of people who did go to school. A lot of people who go to school end up working for someone else. If you want to be truly wealthy you need to be an entrepreneur and an investor.

 

I measure success in terms of money though. My goal in life is to become wealthy. If you want to become a professional such as a doctor or lawyer then yes, you do need schooling. If you simply want to accumulate a lot of wealth and build a high net worth you simply need to be a good business person and know how to build, manage and create wealth.

 

A lot of intelligence is inherited. I know a lot of people who went to college who are still not "smart", they will probably spend the rest of their lives working for someone else and always having "enough money" but never achieving true wealth. If you have natural smarts you can accomplish anything. If you are an idiot, going to college will not help you.

[cutegirl]

Also, status is EXTREMELY important to me. It's all about money and status. The thing is though, I am intelligent enough in order to provide for my own status symbols. I don't NEED a man to provide those items for me because I am competent enough in order to achieve them myself.

 

I have no respect for women who depend on a man for status. Please. I make my own status.

 

I am more competent and intelligent than most men out there, why would I need to depend on a man for damn thing.

 

I get insulted when guys like you think that a woman would even NEED a man to provide for her. What makes you think a woman would need anything from you? Some women might even be a lot more successful and WEALTHIER than you. How do you like THAT?

[cutegirl]

ya but u tellin me u would date a guy that made less than u and less education. i mean why and how come. don;t u want to date up and go up in the ladder. just weird. i heard in asina culture its all about face and what u do and what ur partner does.

 

weird i tell ya. its like why get married in the first place if ya goin have to marry to someone less than u(money and education wise). i mean everything in life is money money money. why u think so many ppl work and become doctors, lawyers or go to univ-why b/c they want to make more $$

 

I am extremely materialistic but I am successful enough that I can earn enough for the both of me and my bf (even though he is unemployed). I make over six figures a year and my bf makes NONE right now. I actually dislike men with money, I find them obnoxious and arrogant.

 

I am capable and competent enough whereas I do not need ANY financial assistance from ANY man. I am very competitive. I can fend for myself.

 

I have a lot of pride, I would not take anything from a man. I actually like to pay for myself on dates. Seriously, don't think your doing women a favor by earning a lot of money, a lot of women already ARE more successful than you and don't NEED anything from you (or any man whatsoever).

[Chingy]

Cutegirl, I think you may have interpreted Joel's concerns a little too harshly. I think the underlying issue is that Joel is facing pressure from his family to be a "protype" man in his culture, someone who is highly educated, wealthy, and have high status. It is a cultural expectation and I can personally relate. And for you Joel, like I mentioned in the previous post, if you are worried that you cannot find true love without all those things that I mentioned above, then do what you think will land you a satisfied life. Some people think money and status does not matter, but some do. There are no right and wrong answers, I believe. Just follow your own path and hopefully things will turn out the way you expected. Good luck pal.

[cutegirl]

Cutegirl, I think you may have interpreted Joel's concerns a little too harshly. I think the underlying issue is that Joel is facing pressure from his family to be a "protype" man in his culture, someone who is highly educated, wealthy, and have high status. It is a cultural expectation and I can personally relate. And for you Joel, like I mentioned in the previous post, if you are worried that you cannot find true love without all those things that I mentioned above, then do what you think will land you a satisfied life. Some people think money and status does not matter, but some do. There are no right and wrong answers, I believe. Just follow your own path and hopefully things will turn out the way you expected. Good luck pal.

 

Oh I know. I'm just letting him know that there ARE some women out there who earn more than men. It appears a lot of people are not aware of that since a lot of people seem to AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME that for whatever reason it's the man who does. Or that a woman might even want a man for money because some women can do it all by themselves and even be more successful than the man.

 

What can I say, I'm a competitive person and I have to let people know because everyone underestimates me and probably doesn't realize that I make good money. Therefore I have to let people KNOW so they know not to mess with me.