What do you men think about women who earn 6 figures a year?

[Curmudgeon]

I don't care if they are unemployed, 25 and still living at home, I don't care if they are materialistic, I don't care if they are humble, I don't care if they have the same values about money and possessions...

 

Everything else you've posted has been about "status" and "appearances" being of utmost importance to you.

 

While I will be the first to agree that fidelity, morals, values and integrity are of the highest importance, I am finding it difficult to believe you subscribe to the same requirements in totality.

 

My apologies in advance if I'm mistaken.

 

As always, just one man's opinion!

[McFadden]

It doesn't matter if they value money or prestige, I could care less. Just because I value those things does not mean my SO has to be the same. I don't care if he has different political opinions or if we are different in many ways.

 

Just from what I have picked up about you, I think you will be extremely frustrated in a relationship with someone who doesn't value money and prestige. That's just my take.

[Star Gazer]

What I'm saying is that I'm not picky in terms of a SO. I am not demanding and don't really have any dealbreakers. I can put up with a lot of stuff.

 

So...right...all you want is a man that won't stray? No other deal breakers, prerequisites, must-haves, nothing?? Really??

[cutegirl]

Just from what I have picked up about you, I think you will be extremely frustrated in a relationship with someone who doesn't value money and prestige. That's just my take.

 

Not really. I had a relationship with someone who didn't care about those things, we fought a lot but never about money or status, mainly about other things that have nothing remotely to do with that.

[cutegirl]

So...right...all you want is a man that won't stray? No other deal breakers, prerequisites, must-haves, nothing?? Really??

 

It's already hard enough to find a man who doesn't cheat since the majority of men DO cheat. If I had too many prerequisites and a freakin' laundry lists of do's and dont's then that would probably limit the eligible bachelor pool to less than 1 percent.

 

Of course it has to be someone I am attractive too and someone I have CHEMISTRY with, and someone who makes me laugh and spends time with me. I am not super picky though like a lot of women.

 

A lot of women demand that the guy call often, treat her out to romantic dinners and pay for her, sweep her off her feet, buy her flowers, etc I'm not like that. I can get along with a guy that has different values from me. I'm not picky as in "the guy must be successful", or "must be tall and handsome" etc

[nittygritty]

I never said I wanted a relationship with those people and I never said I didn't want a relationship with those people. You ASSUMED that.

 

I am not looking for any type of "relationship" with these people, I am just saying I am competitive in these aspects and that my image in terms of looks, money and status matter to me.

 

"I only care about what people think in terms of physical appearance (my looks), money, and status."

 

By caring about what people think in terms of your looks, money and status your relating, connecting, forming a relationship with people based on their opinions of your looks, money and status.

 

Your not looking for any type of "relationship" with these people (what people? The ones that care about your looks, money and status?) and your saying that your competitive in these aspects and that your image in terms of looks, money and status matter to you but how do you feel about selling internet porn? That doesn't sound like a career that someone with a high regard for status and prestige would be able to take pride in?

[crazy_grl]

This is just my crazy notion, but to me it seems like it would be hard for a person who heavily values material possisions and status to have a lasting relationship with someone who doesn't. I know you didn't fight with your ex about money, but supposedly money is the number one thing married couples fight about. It seems like it would be important to be one the same page as far as monetary issues go.

 

And I know this is a generalization, but I would think that faithful guys would be less likely to be materialistic. To me, it seems like a materialistic guy would always want something bigger (you know where) and better, younger and prettier.

 

But I do wish you well in finding that faithful guy to have lasting relationship with. I'm sure someone out there for you, but it seems like it could be harder for you. But don't change who you are just to find a guy.

[Curmudgeon]

It's already hard enough to find a man who doesn't cheat since the majority of men DO cheat.

 

Funny! The men I know and choose to associate with DON'T cheat and the one I knew who did I now have nothing to do with.

 

Is it possible your "man-picker" needs a tune-up, lube job and oil change?

 

If so, I wonder why that might be?

[cutegirl]

"I only care about what people think in terms of physical appearance (my looks), money, and status."

 

By caring about what people think in terms of your looks, money and status your relating, connecting, forming a relationship with people based on their opinions of your looks, money and status.

 

Your not looking for any type of "relationship" with these people (what people? The ones that care about your looks, money and status?) and your saying that your competitive in these aspects and that your image in terms of looks, money and status matter to you but how do you feel about selling internet porn? That doesn't sound like a career that someone with a high regard for status and prestige would be able to take pride in?

 

I feel great about selling porn, since most people in the OC and LA are are quite materialistic and only care about money mostly, not where it comes from. Porn is not so bad now, it's quite mainstream. Even Paris Hilton and Pam Anderson made porn tapes. I think the actress Chloe Sevigny even gave some guy an actual bj on set. There's lots of people who have sold porn who are living the big life; the guy who owns Maximumcash a really old-school huge affiliate program owns a magazine now, I forgot what it was called but it's a FHM/Maxim type mag and he's a multi millionaire and was even featured on E-Television as one of the most eligible bachelors around.

 

Joe Francis sells porn and he's super successful and gets plenty of respect of people in the Hollywood crowd.

 

My only problem is that I don't have enough money yet, I'm still poor compared to all these bigwigs. Therefore I still have a long way to go.

 

People in LA and OC these days care more about the amount of money I think... Porn is no big deal around here.

 

*Edit- I found out the name of the magazine, it's called RAZOR

http://telepixtvcgi.warnerbros.com/dailynews/extra/07_02/07_09d.html

 

The guy who owns it is in porn big time, his co was one of the biggest affiliate progs in the 90's. Look where he's at now. ExtraTV. No one cares where he made his fortune from. He made it big time. The article doesn't mention he owns a porn co. His was one of the BIGGEST in the late 90's. He made millions and millions.

[nittygritty]

I feel great about selling porn, since most people in the OC and LA are are quite materialistic and only care about money mostly, not where it comes from. Porn is not so bad now, it's quite mainstream. Even Paris Hilton and Pam Anderson made porn tapes. I think the actress Chloe Sevigny even gave some guy an actual bj on set. There's lots of people who have sold porn who are living the big life; the guy who owns Maximumcash a really old-school huge affiliate program owns a magazine now, I forgot what it was called but it's a FHM/Maxim type mag and he's a multi millionaire and was even featured on E-Television as one of the most eligible bachelors around.

 

Joe Francis sells porn and he's super successful and gets plenty of respect of people in the Hollywood crowd.

 

My only problem is that I don't have enough money yet, I'm still poor compared to all these bigwigs. Therefore I still have a long way to go.

 

People in LA and OC these days care more about the amount of money I think... Porn is no big deal around here.

 

*Edit- I found out the name of the magazine, it's called RAZOR

http://telepixtvcgi.warnerbros.com/dailynews/extra/07_02/07_09d.html

 

The guy who owns it is in porn big time, his co was one of the biggest affiliate progs in the 90's. Look where he's at now. ExtraTV. No one cares where he made his fortune from. He made it big time. The article doesn't mention he owns a porn co. His was one of the BIGGEST in the late 90's. He made millions and millions.

 

 

There is always going to be someone who earns more money, is better looking or has more expensive things. I would think that your setting yourself up for constant dissappointment if you define yourself by your earnings as compared to others.

[mental_traveller]

Would you be intimidated and threatened or would you be fascinated and enchanted?

 

Would you find this particularly rare and special, or are you generally aware of the fact that there ARE women out there who earn decent money? Or have you never come across such a successful and independent woman before?

 

I'd be more interested than threatened. In general, earning 6 figures requires a reasonable amount of ability and commitment to your field, and I think people with those characteristics tend to be interesting and fun to be involved with. I'd much rather be in a relationship with someone who has ambition and drive than a woman who wants to sit around at home or get her nails done at the salon while I earn the money.

 

Just got to watch out for those office affairs

[Green]

haha girls who makes six figures thats cute, Im more into making 7

[CaliGuy]

Would you be intimidated and threatened or would you be fascinated and enchanted?

 

Would you find this particularly rare and special, or are you generally aware of the fact that there ARE women out there who earn decent money? Or have you never come across such a successful and independent woman before?

 

Doesn't bother me in the least bit. She could make 6 figures and run a company or she could be a waitress.

 

What I care most about is "How does she feel about me?"

[Trimmer]

Ok, then I will explain it to you. Other people's opinions matters to me, because to ME, certain things are more "REAL" when they are validated by others. Validation is important because it strokes ones ego and makes one feel superior. I cannot get satisfaction from having something, if that something is "invisible" and not seen by others.

 

 

cutegirl, if you need the validation, you have to find people who value the same things you do, the ones who see your bag and would go oooooh.

 

LS may not the be the place to get the validation you seek, because many here don't care, the freeway at rush hour is not likely the place because the only assumptions people make is that every other driver but themselves is an idiotic moron who should have their licenses taken away.

I agree completely. It should be clear to you that you can't change people's attitudes. There are people who won't be impressed with the car you drive now. Some of them may be impressed by a more expensive, splashier car, but some will never be impressed by any car you drive - most just don't notice you at all.

 

So I think that in order to get what you want, you will need to continue to make more money (as is your current goal) and as norajane points out, you need to surround yourself with a peer group and a community that values the things that you value. It sounds like living in LA/OC is a good start - you just need to do a better job of surrounding yourself with people like yourself.

 

Bottom line: The one's who aren't impressed now, you can't change, and it's a waste of your energy to go on whining about that. Get over it. Nobody owes you anything, and not being "greeted properly" or admired for your car by a random driver on the freeway is pretty far down the long list of unfair things going on in the world.

 

People who might be impressed and validate you in the way you seek are out there, you need to do some work to find them, probably make more money to climb into their social circles, and then keep up the hard work at filling the bank account and maintaining the image. It's just like money and success - no one is going to give it to you; you'll have to work for it. Go on now - get going....

[underpants]

It's already hard enough to find a man who doesn't cheat since the majority of men DO cheat. If I had too many prerequisites and a freakin' laundry lists of do's and dont's then that would probably limit the eligible bachelor pool to less than 1 percent.

 

Of course it has to be someone I am attractive too and someone I have CHEMISTRY with, and someone who makes me laugh and spends time with me. I am not super picky though like a lot of women.

 

A lot of women demand that the guy call often, treat her out to romantic dinners and pay for her, sweep her off her feet, buy her flowers, etc I'm not like that. I can get along with a guy that has different values from me. I'm not picky as in "the guy must be successful", or "must be tall and handsome" etc

 

I find this interesting. In another thread you were concerned about the possible correlation between cheating and income.

 

In my experience (I have some). More of my partners did not cheat then those that did. In my opinion, most men don't cheat, it is a generalization, both to men and to gender.

 

Perhaps if you concentrated some energy on an "ideal" partner, more so then the reflection of what purse you choose to match your lifestyle status, you might one day just finding yourself really having it all.

 

I do wish you the best.

[mental_traveller]

That is your definition of sucess. I still go with money. Sorry.

 

Once you make a certain amount of money, its importance reduces significantly, and other things become more significant. For example, if you already had 10 million, would you work 15 hours a day, 7 days a week to make more? Or would you live a more balanced life, maybe use your financial freedom to have more leisure time, live more healthily, or pursue other goals you have an interest in?

 

Someone with x million and a happy, varied, and exciting life, is more successful than someone with identical wealth but a crap life in other respects, wouldn't you agree? Therefore money cannot be the sole measure of success.

 

This is proven by the fact that the world's billionaires almost always pursue other projects apart from making money. These guys know more about money and success than you or I will ever do, and yet they don't spend all their time trying to make more and more. Many of them even give large chunks of it away. Why would they do this if it's all about the money?

[Tranzphasic0]

i like them. 7 figures would be sooo much better, but ill take what i can get.. im flat out broke with expensive tastes.

 

hey cutegirl. would you consider marrying me? i will do a lot of annoying things..but i wont cheat. i usually cheat but ill make a special exception for you because you asked. what do you say to my marraige proposal?

[cutegirl]

i like them. 7 figures would be sooo much better, but ill take what i can get.. im flat out broke with expensive tastes.

 

hey cutegirl. would you consider marrying me? i will do a lot of annoying things..but i wont cheat. i usually cheat but ill make a special exception for you because you asked. what do you say to my marraige proposal?

 

Anthony? Is that you?

[mental_traveller]

But if her comment is, why don't I get more respect for my appearance, why does the guy in the next car (I assume) assume certain things about me, it "irks" me when people assume I don't make as much as I do, when people don't accord me the respect I think I should get based on my fancy car, my salary, etc... then I have to ask, what is missing?

 

She wants respect and assumed she would get it by earning money. Since she has now achieved a good income and business prospects, it irks her that some people still do not show the sufficient level of "respect" she thinks she deserves. This annoys and confuses her, so she is asking around partly to vent her frustration, but also in the hope that someone might explain why this happens, and what she can do about it.

 

My advice to her would be to not be so bothered about other people's opinions. Look at big-time business successes, they generally do not get too worked up about whether some guy on the freeway gave them enough "respect". They are self-confident and happy with their own success - sure, it's nice if others recognise it, but if they don't then that's no big deal either. Cutegirl should be less dependent on recognition, and more concerned with success on her own terms. She should view recognition and "respect" from strangers as the icing on the cake of her own self-respect and inner confidence; she should stop viewing it as a huge slight and source of unhappiness if others don't tug their forelocks every time she walks by.

[Tranzphasic0]

Anthony? Is that you?

 

i can be named anthony if you like that..anything for you. you complete me..dont run

 

you can run, oooooh, you can hide, oooh ooooh, you can run, you can die but you cant escape my love

 

anyway jokin aside im trying to keep on the topic here. and my answer is no it would not bother me, i would prefer it, the more the better. its not the main thing i care about at all, but its a plus. and frankly thats for selfish reasons. im almost 27 and im a restaurant manager, not in financial ruin and i own a house but its not where ide like to be. i think trying to get a woman who makes more than me might be my last grab at a better financial situation..

[Herzen]

Materialism is not non-conformist.

 

Reading this thread it certainly is. It takes a courageous individual to go against the anti-materialist, anti-consumerist , "authenticity" current.

 

Just read the avalanche of "better values than thou" posts bashing cutegirl for being values-challenged.

 

The conformist mindset, ironically, lies not with cutegirl but with the "authentic values" crowd.

[cutegirl]

Once you make a certain amount of money, its importance reduces significantly, and other things become more significant. For example, if you already had 10 million, would you work 15 hours a day, 7 days a week to make more? Or would you live a more balanced life, maybe use your financial freedom to have more leisure time, live more healthily, or pursue other goals you have an interest in?

 

 

Of course not, I don't work 15 hours a day as it is. Nowhere even close.

 

I prefer easier money such as investment income or residual income, that's why I chose affiliate marketing because I work from home and don't have to put in so many hours in... I want to earn a lot of money but I be able to do so by working smarter, not harder.

 

I think most rich people just work smarter, not harder, plus they make their money work for them.

[lindya]

Reading this thread it certainly is. It takes a courageous individual to go against the anti-materialist, anti-consumerist , "authenticity" current.

 

Just read the avalanche of "better values than thou" posts bashing cutegirl for being values-challenged.

 

The conformist mindset, ironically, lies not with cutegirl but with the "authentic values" crowd.

 

Damn, Herzen. If I'd stood accused of being a witch during the Salem trials, I'd certainly have wanted you there to speak up for me

 

Seriously though - how much courage does it take anyone to post anything on a message board? Nobody's going to get fined, beaten up or sent to prison for expressing unpopular views.

 

I don't agree that encouraging someone to examine their values and explore other ones counts as taking a "better values than thou" attitude. I can look at cutegirl's post about Paris Hilton in another thread, where she talks about PH being very organised - and think "well...there's a tip I could take from PH. I don't wish to carry a dog around in a handbag, but I could certainly learn a thing or two about time management and returning calls when I'm supposed to."

 

Likewise, people are encouraging cutegirl to look beyond her possessions when considering how she could improve her interactions with others and the impressions they form about her (given that she's specified that other people's opinions of her matter a great deal). I seem to recall her posting quite a few threads about having disappointing interactions with other people.

 

As well as the "people are free to go off topic" icon, perhaps there should be an "I don't want anyone else to post any value-laden advice on this thread." Then we can all say goodbye to LS...and start managing our time as well as Paris does.

[drake111]

I think most rich people just work smarter, not harder, plus they make their money work for them.

I agree completely...people dont get rich from grinding it out in hard work, they get rich because they make an intelligent system that works on its own. Like a website business or something where you build a site and sit back and collect money once it's made.

[Trimmer]

Reading this thread it certainly is. It takes a courageous individual to go against the anti-materialist, anti-consumerist , "authenticity" current.

 

Just read the avalanche of "better values than thou" posts bashing cutegirl for being values-challenged.

 

The conformist mindset, ironically, lies not with cutegirl but with the "authentic values" crowd.

Which would be great if she lived here at the Loveshack - here she would certainly be a non-conformist. But she's talking about being a non-conformist in the world she actually lives in. And in that world, she works tirelessly to conform to her peers' expectations of what one's wealth, power, and posessions should be and should look like, and resents and agonizes over her inability to quite get there...

 

Don't non-conformists usually relish the lack of respect of their communities as a sign of their success at non-conformity?