IpAncA Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Why do some religious people think sex is dirty? Link to post Share on other sites
Lizzie60 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Why do some religious people think sex is dirty? there is something wrong in their head... I know extremely religious people... grandparents who still have sex after 60 years of marriage... and don't think it's dirty. These people need counselling or some kind of therapy... they are simply not 'normal' christians. Link to post Share on other sites
melodymatters Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 It's like real estate : the same 3 words over and over : " upbringing, upbringing, upbringing !!!! My mothers mother told her men were evil and just wanted to use you " like a bag" ( what can I say,Catholic, Italian immigrant ) So MY mom, lightened it up a bit, but still told me how boys would talk, and make fun of you and not respect you. Took me until my mid 20's to truly enjoy sex, and now MY daughter calls her BF her sex slave. Link to post Share on other sites
Lizzie60 Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 of the movie 'Carrie' when her crazy religious mother tells her: 'They're all goin to laugh at you!' What a freak! Link to post Share on other sites
Author IpAncA Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 there is something wrong in their head... Perhaps like melody said, it's upbringing. It's just they all seem to have a fit about when to start and when to do it, etc...that when they finally get the chance, they poop out. Makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites
quankanne Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 Why do some religious people think sex is dirty? you've got kids growing up understanding that pre-marital and extramarital sex is sinful and wrong and dirty, because that is what their church leaders teach them. Unfortunately, those same leaders fail to teach the beauty of sexuality within the marriage, and how it's a gift to the married couple, so it just compounds the "dirty-ness" of married sexuality. Of course, I get the feeling that there are certain religions that would rather focus on man's sinful nature than the spark of divine in him, and to say sex is beautiful and proper and *good* would go against everything they believe! it's a shame, really ... Link to post Share on other sites
Topper Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 the Three Abrahamic religions all have some strict regulations on human sexuality. Sex in and of it's self isa seen as a sin. Paul told early christians sex and lust were sinful It was even a sin within marriage. If you were so inclined to sin it was a far greater sin to have sex outside of marriage, then within the bonds of marriage. For some reason religious people seem to focus more energy on sexual sin then other types of sin such as stealing, cheating and even murder. personally i think the world would be a much better place if muslims, Jews and christians would take a more open minded view of sexuality. Link to post Share on other sites
Author IpAncA Posted June 27, 2007 Author Share Posted June 27, 2007 you've got kids growing up understanding that pre-marital and extramarital sex is sinful and wrong and dirty, because that is what their church leaders teach them. Unfortunately, those same leaders fail to teach the beauty of sexuality within the marriage, and how it's a gift to the married couple, so it just compounds the "dirty-ness" of married sexuality. Of course, I get the feeling that there are certain religions that would rather focus on man's sinful nature than the spark of divine in him, and to say sex is beautiful and proper and *good* would go against everything they believe! it's a shame, really ... I was an early bloomer with things and never gave much thought on it untill my friends started making fun of those who did. They thought it was gross among other things so I figured something was wrong with me. Really I did and so I played along. I was very confused with no one to speak with. Eventually I said "screw it" and figured if a guy doesn't like a open minded highly sexed women, then their not worth it because I'm not surpressing it. It's too hard. So I have no idea if my own religion approves of half the stuff we do but I hear that if were both okay with it then do it. I just can't be a quiet no touchy do things simple women like I see with a lot of them. Link to post Share on other sites
Storyrider Posted June 27, 2007 Share Posted June 27, 2007 I think, as Quankanne said, healthy religious people believe that sex is so beautiful and special it should be reserved for a marriage relationship. That isn't always how it is communicated, however, and the message does get twisted sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Yes, sex is beautiful according to situations. Sexuality is a precious gift from God, it is between two souls who love each other dearly, who commit each other in marriage. Sex out of marriage, without serious commitment, like sleep around, is not pure. give out too easily, it is not something really can satisfy people, maybe physically for a short time, but it is far less satisfying than in a loving commitment relationship. Porn involes no love, sex become pure physical, people who watch porn look the attress merly as sexual object, this situation also is sex immorality. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 If you have sex with someone, won't you want that kind of love and care and commitment are there? How can on 3rd date, or 1st date, these things can be there? Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 personally i think the world would be a much better place if muslims, Jews and christians would take a more open minded view of sexuality. How open minded? to what degree? porn? adultery? children molest? A relative decent people can become a children molester after continuing watching children porn; a good husband can become cold to his wife after he watching variety new element in the porn, he can be addictive to porn. Sexual appetite is infinite hole, you can never dig through it, the more you engage yourself in the porn the deeper bigger desire you have, so what is the end of it? Link to post Share on other sites
Tony T Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Why do some religious people think sex is dirty? Over the ages, some "religious" people have thought dancing, drinking, watching sexy movies, reading certain books, etc. was evil. Forty years ago, the Catholic Church put out a monthly publication listing movies which it declared were sinful to watch. There was a list for books too. People can think anything they want. Thinking sex is dirty means as little as thinking I am a turtle. Why do some "religious" people think it is Godly to kill people with bombs and think that God wants all Americans dead? There are sick people...and there are sick religious people. I do think most religious people have very good intentions and the majority of them practice their beliefs in private and let others alone. Link to post Share on other sites
Topper Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 How open minded? to what degree? porn? adultery? children molest? A relative decent people can become a children molester after continuing watching children porn; a good husband can become cold to his wife after he watching variety new element in the porn, he can be addictive to porn. Sexual appetite is infinite hole, you can never dig through it, the more you engage yourself in the porn the deeper bigger desire you have, so what is the end of it? Why jump to conclusions? Being open minded does not mean you become some depraved pervert. It means being honest about human sexuality. It means that gays are not some sort of sinner, It means that yes woman do like and enjoy sex. It means that those woman who like sex are not whores. It means that sex is a fun joyful part of life. That sex isn't just to produce children. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Paul told early christians sex and lust were sinful It was even a sin within marriage. If you were so inclined to sin it was a far greater sin to have sex outside of marriage, then within the bonds of marriage.I'd like to know where you came up with this. Can you point me to the Scripture that specifically states this?Being open minded does not mean you become some depraved pervert.If you're a follower of Christ, yes it does. Being, "open minded", is ignoring what God says about it, and it will lead to other paths of destruction. Link to post Share on other sites
Topper Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 The exsact passage excapes me. I'll look It up. Link to post Share on other sites
Topper Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Start around Corinthians 6:14 and all of Corinthians 7 Paul is saying that if you must have fornication it is better to be married. Your not sinning if your married. ( I did make a mistake. ) He goes on to say that it is better to remain celibate and a virgin. So if you are weak and can't control your urges for sex get married. But you are better christian if you are like Paul and remain a celibate. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 And I can't stress it enough. Paul was referring to the state the Corinthians were in, and explaining to them to be followers of Christ, and to be ministers of God's word, they must put aside anything that would distract them, or damage their character. Getting married doesn't make you any less of a Christian if you remain single and celibate. God meant for us to be married, and to enjoy the joy of sex with our spouses. That was The plan from the very beginning..... Link to post Share on other sites
justpassingthrough Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Paul's advice was to stay single, like him, but people who didn't have enough self-control should marry. Paul advocated celebacy, not marriage. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Paul advocated celebacy, not marriage.More accurately, Paul advocated celebacy for those entering the ministry. Paul didn't have anything against marriage. Link to post Share on other sites
Topper Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Paul's advice was to stay single, like him, but people who didn't have enough self-control should marry. Paul advocated celibacy, not marriage. Paul Like a lot of Christians in his time were convinced the Jesus would be coming back in his life time. Getting married and having kids to someone like Paul was pointless. the world was going to end. it was better to be Celibate and pure for God. It is theme in a lot of his writing. Many of his letter seem to be replies to Other Christians that disagreed with him. So far there isn't any records of the letters Paul was addressing. Maybe someday like the Gnostic gospels those letter will surface. you could say that Paul saw marriage as the lesser of two evils. The Abrahamic religions have a long history of repressing human sexuality. Masturbation is still considered a sin. Birth Control is sinful to many churches. Most still Label Gays as sinners. It has not been that long ago that a great many churches said there was no such thing asa female orgasm. If a woman did have one then she was responding to something evil. This is still a problem in a great many Islamic cultures. Link to post Share on other sites
RubyDeluxe Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Why do some religious people think sex is dirty? God only condems anal and oral sex and doesn't approve of masturbation. The Song of Solomon and book of Proverbs speaks of healthy sexual practices properly married couples can engage in. Link to post Share on other sites
Author IpAncA Posted June 28, 2007 Author Share Posted June 28, 2007 God only condems anal and oral sex and doesn't approve of masturbation. The Song of Solomon and book of Proverbs speaks of healthy sexual practices properly married couples can engage in. I've heard of the masturbation but not of the other two. U sure? Link to post Share on other sites
RubyDeluxe Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Positive sweetie. All three are considered "unclean" sexual practices. Take for instance sodomy. Does this not come from the root word sodom which was a city destroyed by God? see the following http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah Link to post Share on other sites
Author IpAncA Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share Posted June 29, 2007 Wow this is actually kind of interesting. Positive sweetie. All three are considered "unclean" sexual practices. I can't see how oral sex is wrong within a marriage. I see it as another way to express our love for each other. I don't see it as a problem until it's replaced with actual sex. I've never read nor had anyone give me a verse that states oral sex is wrong within a marriage. So please if there's one point it out. As for anal sex, I don't care if it's wrong or right. I'm still not doing it. The Song of Solomon and book of Proverbs speaks of healthy sexual practices properly married couples can engage in. So what can we engage in? Forty years ago, the Catholic Church put out a monthly publication listing movies which it declared were sinful to watch. There was a list for books too. I couldn't believe some of the books that were on there. Link to post Share on other sites
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