Topper Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Wow this is actually kind of interesting. I can't see how oral sex is wrong within a marriage. I see it as another way to express our love for each other. I don't see it as a problem until it's replaced with actual sex. I've never read nor had anyone give me a verse that states oral sex is wrong within a marriage. So please if there's one point it out. As for anal sex, I don't care if it's wrong or right. I'm still not doing it. So what can we engage in? I couldn't believe some of the books that were on there. Depends on what chruch you attend. Some would tell you the only sex you can do is sex to produce children. Other could have a more enlightened. I Have not seen any passage that says oral sex as being a sin. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 In the beginning of the world, God made Adam, and later made ONE Eve for Adam, God didn't make SEVERAL women for adam. God wants them to produce offsprings on earth and have abundant life. When God make a man, he will make a counterpart woman, the sex between them are within the union of one man and one woman, marriage. So sex out of marriage should not be considered "godly". Originally God made you for one man/one woman, and you have sexual relationship with many others? It is unfaithful. Today's dating world is totally MESSED UP. Link to post Share on other sites
RubyDeluxe Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Can I get an Amen people? The sister above is signing the song of truth Link to post Share on other sites
knaveman Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 Dating world seems pretty normal to me, it is only your opinions on it that make it seem messed up. Like everything else in our lives, it is a matter of ones own opinion and perspective. IMO, you should know what is right or wrong before any religion tells you so. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 IMO, you should know what is right or wrong before any religion tells you so. Yeah, that is our conscience which is given by God. but seems many people's conscience cannot function fully well And obviously what one person think is right isn't so for another person. What people think are right, aren't so in God eyes. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted June 30, 2007 Share Posted June 30, 2007 I know that my great-grandmother believes that sex should only be done in order to procreate, to indulge in sex for sexual satisfaction means you are a sinner. Granted she is 95 years old and a very strict Catholic but I would bet this is the reason behind why some people count it as dirty. Link to post Share on other sites
ZachsGirl026 Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 In my opinion, if you're having safe sex in a committed relationship, there are a whole lot of worse things you could be doing. I mean I've been with my first actual boyfriend for almost 4 years and we've shared every "first" together and waited more than 3 years before we had sex. We're not killing people or beating puppies, it's just another way to express our love. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 In my opinion, if you're having safe sex in a committed relationship, there are a whole lot of worse things you could be doing. I mean I've been with my first actual boyfriend for almost 4 years and we've shared every "first" together and waited more than 3 years before we had sex. We're not killing people or beating puppies, it's just another way to express our love.The original post deals with Christians and how we view sex within a marriage, should it be with-held or not. Everything you've just posted deals with pre-maritial sex.....which BTW.....isn't a good idea either.....IMO..... Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 If people hold back sex until marriage, they would marry very soon, and no cohabit this definition Link to post Share on other sites
knaveman Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Why do some religious people think sex is dirty? The OP did not mention marriage or a specific religion. Many religious people find sex dirty, most likely due to their up bringing and using the religion as an excuse. There's nothing wrong with sex, only the context and occasionally the method. If done correctly there is nothing wrong with sex! OH YEAH! Link to post Share on other sites
Topper Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 In the beginning of the world, God made Adam, and later made ONE Eve for Adam, God didn't make SEVERAL women for adam. God wants them to produce offsprings on earth and have abundant life. When God make a man, he will make a counterpart woman, the sex between them are within the union of one man and one woman, marriage. So sex out of marriage should not be considered "godly". Originally God made you for one man/one woman, and you have sexual relationship with many others? It is unfaithful. Today's dating world is totally MESSED UP. In the Torah, The Jewish version of the old testament there was Adams first wife Lilith, Adam and Lilith were not happy together so god made Eve. then we have all the ployagamist in the Bible In some cases God comanded that he marry another woman. Link to post Share on other sites
Topper Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 More accurately, Paul advocated celebacy for those entering the ministry. Paul didn't have anything against marriage. It is pretty clear that he says if you must have sex it is better to get married. It clear from what he says it is far better to not marry and to remain a celibate I see nothing that says he is only addressing those that wish to enter the Ministry. On the other hand the first recorded miracle by Jesus is to turn water to wine for his friends wedding. Link to post Share on other sites
Mlynn Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 What about people that don't believe in god? What about the fact that certian sexual organs exist ONLY for pleasure and have ZERO part in reproduction...period. What about the fact that both men and women can have powerful orgasms from anal sex (sodomy). Why does all this exist - if we are not ment to use it? What about the fact that sex existed BEFORE the government/religious created instituation of marriage. Sex came BEFORE marriage and we are ALL the product from sex outside of marraige....with out our sexually devient ancestors our species wouldn't exist. Humans are animals....and animals have sex. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 It is pretty clear that he says if you must have sex it is better to get married. It clear from what he says it is far better to not marry and to remain a celibate I see nothing that says he is only addressing those that wish to enter the Ministry. On the other hand the first recorded miracle by Jesus is to turn water to wine for his friends wedding. Ephesians 5:25 (*)Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the church and gave his life for it. 5:28 Men ought to love their wives just as they love their own bodies. A man who loves his wife loves himself. 5:29 (None of us ever hate our own bodies. Instead, we feed them, and take care of them, just as Christ does the church; 5:30 for we are members of his body.) 5:31 (*)As the scripture says, "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and unite with his wife, and the two will become one." 5:32 There is a deep secret truth revealed in this scripture, which I understand as applying to Christ and the church. Do you see? Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Why do some religious people think sex is dirty? cause thats what they have been told...religious people tend to be followers and want to be spoon-fed their beliefs. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 What about people that don't believe in god? What about the fact that certian sexual organs exist ONLY for pleasure and have ZERO part in reproduction...period. What about the fact that both men and women can have powerful orgasms from anal sex (sodomy). Why does all this exist - if we are not ment to use it? What about the fact that sex existed BEFORE the government/religious created instituation of marriage. Sex came BEFORE marriage and we are ALL the product from sex outside of marraige....with out our sexually devient ancestors our species wouldn't exist. Humans are animals....and animals have sex. Humans are NOT just animals, you can NOT kill a man like you kill a pig. If you want to be treated with more grace than an animal, you should act NOT just like an animal. God put his living law in people hearts, it is called conscience. When we do things wrongly, we will have guilty, that is our conscience is telling us something is wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 cause thats what they have been told...religious people tend to be followers and want to be spoon-fed their beliefs. Oh, you better check every spirit, that's Bible teach us to do: discern. Wisdoms come from Holy Spirit, no human being can fool God Link to post Share on other sites
allina Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 God put his living law in people hearts, it is called conscience. No, not everyone thinks that, not that it matters since that's not the point of this thread but as we EVOLVED in to complex beings we developed emotion and the sense of right and wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 No, not everyone thinks that, not that it matters since that's not the point of this thread but as we EVOLVED in to complex beings we developed emotion and the sense of right and wrong. Yes, not everyone thinks that, but God has nothing to with people's thinking, HE exists no matter what you think. God is real for those who love him and believe in Him. Those people can see miracles after miracles, wonders after wonders, prayers work amazingly, nothing is impossible for them because nothing is impossible for God. All these things no scientist can explain or even imagine because they don't believe. Link to post Share on other sites
allina Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Yes, not everyone thinks that, but God has nothing to with people's thinking, HE exists no matter what you think. Right...... And I say "he" doesn't exist no matter what YOU think. It's pointless to reason. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Right...... And I say "he" doesn't exist no matter what YOU think. It's pointless to reason. But God is in control of everything no matter what YOU think. God will judge everybody after our physical body died. God always bless those who obey him and love him; evildoers will fall all of sudden. Everything is in God's control here on earth and in heaven. Surrender to God or not, has everything to do with your life, here, on earth. Human being wisdom means nothing to God Link to post Share on other sites
allina Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 But God is in control of everything no matter what YOU think. God will judge everybody after our physical body died. God always bless those who obey him and love him; evildoers will fall all of sudden. Everything is in God's control here on earth and in heaven. Whatever you say. I'm not about to insult your beliefs by stating what I think of all this. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Whatever you say. I'm not about to insult your beliefs by stating what I think of all this. People's opinion doesn't matter to me, you can try though Link to post Share on other sites
Author IpAncA Posted July 3, 2007 Author Share Posted July 3, 2007 Well I'm not sure where the hell this is going but here's a suggestion, stop jacking and stick to TOPIC! It's not difficult. Anyhow I do agree it's what their religion tells him. I just have a hard time understanding it that's all. And yes this thread can apply to sexual relationship within a marriage because even then, some see it as dirty. I mean if it's sooooo dirty, then why can we do it? We were given urges, etc.. for a reason. I doubt it's a joke and someone is laughing their head off. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I mean if it's sooooo dirty, then why can we do it? We were given urges, etc.. for a reason. I doubt it's a joke and someone is laughing their head off. For producing babies, and husband and wife should become one Link to post Share on other sites
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