yongyong Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 you can call me a guy with no confidence, whatever. At least I am not short or skinny and don't wear glasses:lmao: but can't date white girl (they are the majority population here) I mean would you date an average asian guy you see on campus? Please don't say, "I will, as long as he look like Rick Yune" (a guy from James Bond movie and the fast and the furious. he was Versace model too:() My friend say 'it's number game, ask as many as you can and don't feel bad if you get rejected' I mean I'd like to talk to her if I feel that she will be interested. (I can feel that between Asians though) If I don't look like a model, I should be connected emotionally with her but It just doesn't happen. Link to post Share on other sites
McFadden Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I was about to say "I will as long as he looks like Garrett Wang" but in light of what you said, that wouldn't be an appropriate reply. Anyway yeah, probably. Link to post Share on other sites
taiko Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Well don't mind a man jumping in do you. At least in an American beauty standard black women and asian men are furthest away from the "ideal" look thus have a harder time making the initial connection. Notice how you asked specifically for a "white" women and not any woman outside your etnic group. On the other hand you don't bring the negative social sterotypes that the gangster black or latino would bring to a relationship so what you lose physically you gain in other ares. Link to post Share on other sites
hithere Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Hey dude don't give up. I don't know where you live but where i do i know a lot of white girls who date asian guys. In fact the ones i know say their asian bfs treat them really good. Asian culture has gained a lot of popularity here in the states which i think has opened up people's outlook. So if you like white girls just keep trying. And hey if you ever end up getting married to a white girl and have kids, i've noticed half-asian/half white people are really hot (Maggie Q, Dean Cain, Kristin Kreuk, etc). Link to post Share on other sites
allina Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I don't know where you live but dating shouldn't be an issue for an Asian guy, i sure isn't where I live. Try not to think of being Asian as a negative point about you, that's sad. I'm white and I have dated a couple Asian guys, my longest LTR was with a Chinese guy and it was never an issue. Don't let idiotic American media stereotype Asian men as undesirable, scrawny nerds. My ex for example was 6"1', built and a great catch. Link to post Share on other sites
Author yongyong Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 I am in Salt Lake City, Utah. I recently saw cute blonde white girl with average face Asian guy:) It gave me some sort of hope but I saw Asian guy/white girl couple only couple times in 4 years........wow Link to post Share on other sites
Topper Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Funny I have seen a number of mixed couple here in Utah. Are you having a hard time meeting any woman or just white woman? next winter take up skiing or snowbarding. head up to Park City and hang out up there. Ton of girls are hanging out and having fun. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 My friend say 'it's number game, ask as many as you can and don't feel bad if you get rejected' Only a small number of people will date outside their race so essentially your friend is correct. Link to post Share on other sites
doiask42much Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I'd date an Asian guy and I have, but I'm Asian so I guess I don't count. A Latina friend of mine was head over heels for an Asian guy, and I didn't think him terribly cute. I see white girl/Asian guy couples every now and then and with increasing frequency, but I live in LA. I don't think it's about your race; it's more your confidence and how you relate to a girl, no matter what color you are. I will say this though: if you are very "Asian" in your tastes and outlook, it will make relating to her a little harder, in terms of communicating, likes, dislikes, even who you hang out with. Few white people feel comfortable in social situations that are ALL Asian. My bf feels very awkward at my family gatherings. He thinks they're all laughing at him--that's because they are! Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I see white girl/Asian guy couples every now and then and with increasing frequency, but I live in LA. Usually its a white guy/asian girl combo....I see very few white girls with asian dudes. By "asian" I mean Japanese, Chinese, Korean, etc... Link to post Share on other sites
doiask42much Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Yes, Alpha, I'm Asian so I'm well aware of what it means to be Asian. Thanks for clarifying. Ahem. Usually it's Asian girl/white guy, yes, but I am starting to see more (more than I've seen before, not more than the Asian girl/white guy combo) of the reverse. I know because it's of personal interest to me so I pay attention and make note whenever I do see this. My father is married to a white woman, so it's something that jumps out at me. I doubt you pay as much attention to this as I do. I'm not saying it's common by any means, but it's not as rare as it once was. I think that's a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Yes, Alpha, I'm Asian so I'm well aware of what it means to be Asian. Thanks for clarifying. Ahem. well I'm asian-indian and there's some debate as to whether we're considered true "asians". I doubt you pay as much attention to this as I do. why would you say that? i exclusively date white chicks. Link to post Share on other sites
doiask42much Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Ok, maybe you do. I just know that it is something that my Asian male peers gripe about, so I am always on the lookout for counterexamples. Asian women tend to catch a lot of flack for dating outside because the men don't feel they have the same opportunities. But since you are quasi-Asian, I guess it's of interest to you too? I don't know where you live, but I do see it every now and then. Again, not a TON, but it's getting to be less rare. Link to post Share on other sites
Curmudgeon Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 But then again, I'm a guy so I wouldn't date one no matter what his ethnicity. Link to post Share on other sites
Author yongyong Posted July 9, 2007 Author Share Posted July 9, 2007 I say to myself 'I should talk to her' if I get at least some type of interest (smile, eye contact ) even though this is most guy's misjudgement So would you just push yourself to talk to girls even they don't give a damn about you? Link to post Share on other sites
McFadden Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I just remembered about this Asian guy at my high school that dated like every girl in the school. And some people wondered what was up with that but I think it was all the attitude. And one of my friends is Asian and he has consistantly dated white girls and some Asian girls. I don't know if its relevant though because in my particular neighborhood where I live, its about 1/3 Asian. But I think there is hope so I would just keep putting yourself out there. Link to post Share on other sites
Green Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 Yeah I actualy just remembered too one of the most popular guys at my school was asian, Philipino does that count... he got alot of hot whit girls. but for the most part I never see hot chicks with asian guys and I avoid asian girls like the plague. Give me white girls... Oh yeah and yes if you like white girls and thats all you realisticaly have to chose from you'd better hit on them even though you think you have no chance, just do it with confidence or atleast faked confidence and go for the gold dont play it like you just want to be there friends let them know what you want to do to them and if they say some **** to u act like u dont care Link to post Share on other sites
McFadden Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I am just curious why some people like white girls so much, it seems like its a big thing. Or why someone would not want to date Asian guys. I always rate each person individually on thier looks. A good looking black person will look better than an unattractive white or Asian person or whatever the situation is. Link to post Share on other sites
trotter Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I am not white myself, however all of my long term relationships have been with white women. I don't know why I am that way, but maybe just the environment I was raised in. I did date other races/cultures when I was younger, but now I just feel comfortable with white women. My friends always like to have a laugh about it and tease me when they say I am a sell out to my people. However, i have found that to be difficult when initially finding a date. I just keep thinking "ah there's no way she would date an 'other' ". Most of my relationships were started as a result of meeting thru others, or starting off as friends first then dating. So my question to the white women out there - when you see an attractive guy of another race (whether it be Asian, south Asian, Black, Latino etc), do you initially have second thoughts because of the difference, or do people just not care anymore about race/culture? Link to post Share on other sites
amerikajin Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I am just curious why some people like white girls so much, it seems like its a big thing. Or why someone would not want to date Asian guys. I always rate each person individually on thier looks. A good looking black person will look better than an unattractive white or Asian person or whatever the situation is. I think attraction can be a subconscious thing. I imagine it probably has a lot to do with socio-economic standing, but it also may have to do with popular characterizations of certain ethnic groups, and myriad other factors. I certainly don't want to generalize here, but a lot of Asian guys I've met come from strict families whose main priorities are their sons' academic achievements, career planning and, additionally, they tend to be socially conservative. This is not true of all Asian-Americans I've met, but definitely true of a good percentage. And for whatever reason, it seems like men in particular (especially the oldest male sibling) really have a rough go of it because so much is expected of them, almost as if they were a lieutenant father of the family. What happens is, Asian men grow up to be the strong and responsible intellects that their parents want them to be, but end up living in a macho society which markets Die Hard, the National Football League and Ultimate Fighting Championship. As for black women, I think they are also affected adversely by stereotypes and socioeconomic class. But I also think times are changing. Women like Venus Williams and Beyonce are just many of an increasingly long list of beautiful and successful black female stars. Link to post Share on other sites
alphamale Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I think attraction can be a subconscious thing. I imagine it probably has a lot to do with socio-economic standing, but it also may have to do with popular characterizations of certain ethnic groups, and myriad other factors. I must disagree to a certain extent AMERIKAJIN....I think your factors are valid but you're forgetting about the genetic thing. Many white people don't want kids that look different, kids that have different eyes or different hair or darker skin. Whereas the non-white races want kids that have more white features so they'll fit better in western society. I see many oriental women with white men. Now I'm seeing more and more indian girls with white men. No matter what anyone says the standard of beauty is fair skin with blonde hair and blue eyes. And don't even get me started on discrimination within a particular race. Link to post Share on other sites
McFadden Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I certainly don't want to generalize here, but a lot of Asian guys I've met come from strict families whose main priorities are their sons' academic achievements, career planning and, additionally, they tend to be socially conservative. This is not true of all Asian-Americans I've met, but definitely true of a good percentage. And for whatever reason, it seems like men in particular (especially the oldest male sibling) really have a rough go of it because so much is expected of them, almost as if they were a lieutenant father of the family. What happens is, Asian men grow up to be the strong and responsible intellects that their parents want them to be, but end up living in a macho society which markets Die Hard, the National Football League and Ultimate Fighting Championship. That is true, I probably wasn't thinking about that because a lot of the Asians I'm friends with are 3rd generation or later and act very Americanized. I don't know if I would be able to date a very high-acheiving, strict person (of any race.) IMO a lot of half white/half Asians are very good looking, possibly the best looking combination of races hahah. Link to post Share on other sites
amerikajin Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I must disagree to a certain extent AMERIKAJIN....I think your factors are valid but you're forgetting about the genetic thing. Many white people don't want kids that look different, kids that have different eyes or different hair or darker skin. It's complex, and it's hard to know exactly what's what in this discussion. I don't discount what you're saying: I think that race *is* a factor for a lot of people. And people tend to marry up, which means that members of the majority group typically have greater selection compared to their minority counterparts. But that's by no means a certainty, and when you look at it on an individual level, there are a lot of cases when race really isn't such a big deal at all. Whereas the non-white races want kids that have more white features so they'll fit better in western society. I see many oriental women with white men. Now I'm seeing more and more indian girls with white men. Re: Asian women (real Asian women, not Asian-American), I definitely think race is an issue, but I don't think it necessarily has anything to do with women wanting their kids to have lighter skin; it's just a case of marrying-up. You also have to understand that in a lot of these countries there are some major stereotypes, most of which they later realize are not reflective of reality. But white guys from North America and Europe are automatically assumed to be rich. Now, odds are, a Thai woman probably doesn't really dig caucasian guys, but she assumes that he can be a provider. By contrast, they assume that black men are pimps, drug dealers and gang bangers. You will almost never see an Asian woman with a black man - ever. But it's not really wanting their kids to be whiter, it's just what they assume to be true about their partners based on what little experience they have interacting with farang (e.g. white = meal ticket, black = convict). But all things equal, they'd really rather be with other Asian men, which is why, for example, a Thai woman will usually choose a Japanese man over an American man more often than not "because they more look same". I would imagine that this is probably true not only of Thai women, but of most Asian women. They marry up. They'd rather marry up with their own kind, but they'll settle for a white guy if that's what they end up with. Japan's a little bit different. It's an industrialized society with a very large middle class. Most Japanese women don't see Americans or Europeans as a way to marry up; in fact, most families see any marriage to a 'gaijin' as marrying down. It's something parents have to learn to accept, and some accept it more than others. I've known some friends who had no problems with their Japanese in-laws, and I knew others who were treated with pure contempt. The big leap for Japanese women is whether or not to venture into the unknown and date someone who isn't Japanese. I've seen J-women date people of all ethnicities. They still much prefer Japanese men, but they'll settle for someone else if need be. I don't know...maybe it's this way in other Asian countries and I just didn't notice it. No matter what anyone says the standard of beauty is fair skin with blonde hair and blue eyes. The real standard is, making women think you're going to be a better provider. Link to post Share on other sites
trotter Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 No matter what anyone says the standard of beauty is fair skin with blonde hair and blue eyes. And don't even get me started on discrimination within a particular race. I can't say I agree with your post there. I don't speak for all guys, but when me, and my other male friends look for women to date, we don't base our choices on what our kids are potentially going to look like. As for your standard of beauty line... well I won't get into that one. I think this whole thing about being attracted to other races is just more having to do with the environment in which one is raised more than anything else. Link to post Share on other sites
garnet Posted July 9, 2007 Share Posted July 9, 2007 I would date an Asian man, of course. I live in San Francisco and I see white girls with Asian guys all the time. One of my friends is engaged to a Chinese man. I can't imagine anyone thinking they didn't want their kids to be half Asian. What difference does it make? I can't even relate to that kind of thinking. Link to post Share on other sites
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