Trialbyfire Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Chivalry is something a women feels a man is suppose to do. That's not different from men thinking women are suppose to know how to cook. If so, it's all prehistoric... I feel this way. Woman: I think a man who practices chivalry is a turn on. Me: I think a woman who knows how to cook is a turn on Women: Cook your own damn food! Me: Open up your own damn doors and pull out your own chair! Woman: Why don’t you cook for me? Me: Why don’t you open doors and pull out my chair for me? (I guess asking her to do that wouldn’t be socially correct nowadays….) Like someone said, it's politeness you look for. Doesn't necessarily means he has to pull out your chair. And if he does, it doesn't mean he's whipped. He probably loves to practice chivalry and she probably can cook the hell out of a casserole. _________________________________________________________________ Pardon me for being so obsessed with a woman who can cook. This methodology is about equal to the one where the woman won't put out because the man won't buy her the diamond tennis bracelet she's been eyeing for years... Link to post Share on other sites
LoveLace Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Just my opinion, but in my experience, it seems that most married men are whipped to some extent, especially the ones that have been married for a long time. It just comes with the territory. I agree with this...how many times have I seen a guy get called "whipped" just because he settles down, and it has nothing to do with how she treats him...just because he plans to marry her, he gets called "whipped". Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Like someone said, it's politeness you look for. Doesn't necessarily means he has to pull out your chair. And if he does, it doesn't mean he's whipped. He probably loves to practice chivalry and she probably can cook the hell out of a casserole. I agree. What about a man who never opens a door for a woman? Maybe they just didn't have a good role model? Or maybe they are being disrespectful or could give a rats ass? I kid you not...I have gone out with my sister and her husband before, and we'll will walk up to the door of wherever, and as we approach the door, I swear that man will take a few steps back, put his hands in his pocket and look at her like, "Well aren't you going to open the door?" And its not like he doesn't know what he could do, its like he purposly does it. For the record I'm not saying that it is something he has to do or needs to do all the time, and its not about her not being able to open up her own door, but I would think once in a blue moon would be ok. But he actually will take a step back, like, "I'm not opening the door, you can open it for me." Thats pretty messed up if a guy will not hold the door open for a woman for no reason at all. I can see if she is a co-worker and she has been snobby to the guy in the past and never shows appreciation, but to do it to a complete stranger is messed up. Obviously there is no law that states you have to do that, but it is polite and shows good manners. Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperpen12000 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 This methodology is about equal to the one where the woman won't put out because the man won't buy her the diamond tennis bracelet she's been eyeing for years... Well if you think so, that's your opinion. I beg to differ.... The methodology is relevant because men who should practice chivalry is as prehistoric as a women who should know how to cook. Both manners began around the same era. Just being polite is a quality you look for nowadays.... Let's not be double-standard shall we. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Well if you think so, that's your opinion. I beg to differ.... The methodology is relevant because men who should practice chivalry is as prehistoric as a women who should know how to cook. Both manners began around the same era. Just being polite is a quality you look for nowadays.... Let's not be double-standard shall we. I wasn't aware that cooking was a form of female chivalry or manners... Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperpen12000 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I wasn't aware that cooking was a form of female chivalry or manners... SURPRISE!! YOU'RE AWARE NOW!! They both have prehistoric manner.... Women are doing it for themselves. They don't need chivalry just politeness. well, just women like you.... ___________________________________________________________________ There are dozens of women who love to cook for their men and believe it's traditional. I can't phantom to change the women who grew up with feminist mothers. To each it's own. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I guess I need to run out and learn how to cook, if I want a man... Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperpen12000 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I guess I need to run out and learn how to cook, if I want a man... We if you believe that to be true, It's not my assessment. There are men out there who don't care if a woman knows how to cook. Like I said, "to each it's own". It doesn't hurt though. heck, you can hire a maid since you're so high maintenance. Yeah, I've read several of your post. I like to read:D Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Provide the definition of high maintenance so I can grasp the concept. Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperpen12000 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Provide the definition of high maintenance so I can grasp the concept. Nah, Self-explanatory... You know how you are. Play back the tape! Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 No I don't. State it. I really, really want to hear it. Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperpen12000 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 No I don't. State it. I really, really want to hear it. Nah! Again, Self-explanatory... You know how you are. Play back the tape! If it's not high maintenance, it's uppity or slothful. __________________________________ Hey, if you want to know how to cook, I can teach you? Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Sounds like someone is avoiding a certain topic because they know that they are full of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperpen12000 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Sounds like someone is avoiding a certain topic because they know that they are full of it. Same can be said about you substantially! Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Same can be said about you substantially! Really? Well do tell, but I am sure you will avoid that one as well. Link to post Share on other sites
Hyperpen12000 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Really? Well do tell, but I am sure you will avoid that one as well. I already did in the other post! duh:p it's not my fault you have a minimal attention span.. Link to post Share on other sites
Curmudgeon Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Nor is it his fault that you're all wet. My guess is that you're as incapable of cooking as you are disinclined to open doors. Women probably don't like you because of your lack of manners and grace and now you're angry at them as well as angry at the men they do like. The operative word in my original post was "gentleman!" That appears to be a concept that escapes you! Pity! But of course and as always, that's just one man's opinion. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Wet, hungry and frustrated... Link to post Share on other sites
Curmudgeon Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 You never did answer my question, Woggle. Since you have such an oft-expressed, low opinion of women, why are you married to one? Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 You never did answer my question, Woggle. Since you have such an oft-expressed, low opinion of women, why are you married to one? Because apparently this one thinks of women in the same way he does Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 You never did answer my question, Woggle. Since you have such an oft-expressed, low opinion of women, why are you married to one? I happened to meet one of the few good women left. Most women are no good but there a few rare gems and I met one of them. Link to post Share on other sites
Curmudgeon Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Most women are no good.... ...it's no wonder you've had bad luck with them. Does your wife know you demean and look down upon her gender? Obviously, but for, perhaps, your wife, you've chosen extremely badly in your lifetime. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 ...it's no wonder you've had bad luck with them. Does your wife know you demean and look down upon her gender? My guess would be no. Do you really think that she would stay with him if she knew how he felt about her gender? Link to post Share on other sites
Curmudgeon Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 The same thought occurred. That's why I asked! If I felt that way about women I know my wife would be out the door in a flash, leaving me to stew in my own stinkin' thinkin' juices! Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 The same thought occurred. That's why I asked! If I felt that way about women I know my wife would be out the door in a flash, leaving me to stew in my own stinkin' thinkin' juices! He says that she is an idependent and intelligent woman and no woman like that would put up with that garbage. Only submissive and desperate women would put up with that attitude. Link to post Share on other sites
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