Author Melovator Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Every human being has the right to protect themselves from real injury and harm. Doesn't matter who the perpatrator is.. I agree with sumdude and I never meant to single one person out there are many people who've gotten into the hate for different reasons (probably myself included when I've been real pissed and not thinking). Just let's not encourage each other in the hate. Because this place offers an opportunity to open up dialogue and to learn from each other, and I learn a lot from the guy's threads and sometimes they make me laugh- like when Gunny and was it TrialbyFire? No Lakesidedreams I think it was! (Sorry memory filled with work at the moment) were writing about the 'the book' or the 'the sack' I know I used to keep one of those myself until I learnt about seven years to have the discussion and chuck the post-it-note (no book) away. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Hey, hey, I'm female. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Melovator Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 I'm really bad with names IRL, here its worse because I don't have a face to pin it on. I knew I was wrong the second I wrote it because I was thinking hang on Trial is a chick right? Should have edited my train of thought post when I fixed up the spelling! Please forgive. I'm really rather embarrassed now. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Don't be embarrassed. I found it funny, but in a cute way. It wouldn't be the first time, since my screen name and avatar don't denote gender and the way I write, isn't very fluffy. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Melovator Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Don't be embarrassed. I found it funny, but in a cute way. It wouldn't be the first time, since my screen name and avatar don't denote gender and the way I write, isn't very fluffy. I have to agree that you are not fluffy when you write, but that's a good thing, fluffy people like me need it! And all the other 'reality checkers' here too. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunny376 Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Just in case you mistake me for something else? I'm A guy~rine! A male! A Spartian! LOL~! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Melovator Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Just in case you mistake me for something else? I'm A guy~rine! A male! A Spartian! LOL~! You can smell the testosterone from your posts Gunny! No doubt that you're a bloke! Ahh this is a very timely reminder of my need to get better with names and perhaps not rush with posts. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunny376 Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 :love: Having made a port of call. Aussies girls ~ grrrrrrrrrrrrr! :love::love: Link to post Share on other sites
Author Melovator Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 :love: Having made a port of call. Aussies girls ~ grrrrrrrrrrrrr! :love::love: It's the no 'bullsh*t' principle. This a quote from the current Weekend Australian Magazine: "Maybe that's an Australian thing, where you admire someone for being a good bloke rather than [for] something they've achieved... In Australia you can be tremendously good at something but if you're a whacker people still aren't going to like you." You're a good bloke Gunny. Link to post Share on other sites
Gunny376 Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 It's the no 'bullsh*t' principle. This a quote from the current Weekend Australian Magazine: "Maybe that's an Australian thing, where you admire someone for being a good bloke rather than [for] something they've achieved... In Australia you can be tremendously good at something but if you're a whacker people still aren't going to like you." You're a good bloke Gunny. Hey Kid! I'm here for you! It's hard! ALL DAY HARD! Link to post Share on other sites
Author Melovator Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Hey Kid! I'm here for you! It's hard! ALL DAY HARD! And that's what I mean about learning from the guys: That phrase "All day hard", I don't know how many times since I first read it that I've just said to myself "Melo you're just doing it all day hard, that's the way it is, now just do what you have to do." That phrase has got me through some f**ked up moments where I could not afford to lose it. And instead of 'manning up' I think 'woman up' or 'person up', some of the finer points are Y side applicable only but the Gunny philosophy has a lot of universals in it. I think Gunny and Lady Jane should write a book: "Conversations across the chromosome divide: Person up!" I'm sure people would buy it. Link to post Share on other sites
OpenBook Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Thank you. As hard as it is to believe I really am a much nicer person offline than I come across on here. I just vent about things that bother and some women think I am talking about them personally which is not the case at all. I am always willing to give respect back to those who show it to me no matter what gender, race, religion or background they have but I don't hold my tongue when I speak about certain issues and that does upset some people. I also admit that there were times I was very pissed off and posted a bunch of misogynistic crap but I hope the good women can take it with a grain of salt because I am really not a hateful person. Woggle, now that I know your story I understand a lot better where you're coming from in your posts. For the record -- although I know it is rude and impolite to speak ill of someone else's family members -- I think your mother was a monster and I am OUTRAGED that she treated you like that. I don't blame you one bit for your anger -- you have every right. I'm a complete stranger and I don't even know you but it makes ME very angry... I think that woman should be thrown in prison and toss away the key. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 She is living in the mental prison she created for herself. She is a miserable person who is incapable of giving love or receiving love. I actually have more pity than hatred for her because there is no joy or happiness whatsoever in her life. I know this sounds weird after everything she has put me through but hope one day she can actually find peace and happiness. I hope she can know what it is like to live with without this massive weight on her before her days are up but I doubt she ever will. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 I would like to state, for the benefit of this thread, that women can be spartans too. After all, who else would wield the dagger? Link to post Share on other sites
OpenBook Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 She is living in the mental prison she created for herself. She is a miserable person who is incapable of giving love or receiving love. I actually have more pity than hatred for her because there is no joy or happiness whatsoever in her life. I know this sounds weird after everything she has put me through but hope one day she can actually find peace and happiness. I hope she can know what it is like to live with without this massive weight on her before her days are up but I doubt she ever will. OK, then you feel the pity. I'll feel the hatred. You had no one to step in and defend you when she was beating you to a pulp, and I know it's a little late, but I'm stepping in vicariously for you now. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Melovator Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Woggle its truly beautiful what you wrote and even more beautiful that you can write it. However, I too, must admit to feeling a little vicarious... loathing and contempt- for a woman who can be so seriously destitute in her maternal duties. I feel as a mother that it is my duty to protect my son from all harm and that includes me. I have had times when I'm stressed and crying and about to lose it and I've just had to say "Mummy needs a time out." I guess with all I've seen and heard in this world I'm all too aware that biggest threat to children can be their own families. But I've also seen that the only way to really get forward from those pits of hell that lie behind closed doors (and some people carry them inside for life) is to not hate. I've met some truly remarkable people, living saints after all they've been through, and they all chose not to hate. Didn't forget but didn't let what happened to them rule their lives. And TrialbyFire: We're Amazons baby! Amazons! Link to post Share on other sites
sumdude Posted August 11, 2007 Share Posted August 11, 2007 Makes me think of the forgiveness thread a little while back. Seems that abuse, be it physical, emotional or otherwise is a learned habit. Passed from generation to generation. Who's knows what was done to woggle's mom to make her what she is, and the person before that ... god knows how far back it goes. Then it comes down to one strong person who says STOP I've had enough ... then that person has to look deep in themselves and say WAIT what am I doing now? How do I break this chain? Link to post Share on other sites
Author Melovator Posted August 11, 2007 Author Share Posted August 11, 2007 Makes me think of the forgiveness thread a little while back. Seems that abuse, be it physical, emotional or otherwise is a learned habit. Passed from generation to generation. Who's knows what was done to woggle's mom to make her what she is, and the person before that ... god knows how far back it goes. Then it comes down to one strong person who says STOP I've had enough ... then that person has to look deep in themselves and say WAIT what am I doing now? How do I break this chain? I once worked with someone who had worked in the human welfare area so long that his last client was the grandchild of one of his first... and they were about to pop out the next generation. And the family history was all alcohol, and domestic violence and sexual abuse. He took early retirement... On the other hand there are 'lotuses' of people who just pop up from the mud and muck around them, human gems with loving hearts, they amaze me. And sometimes they pop up from their own muck and that's even more bloody amazing. Link to post Share on other sites
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