He is moslem, am Xtian but wants me to change? what happens to wedding?

[Enema]

P.S. He has chosen not to live that lifestyle anymore anyway, so he is making the right decision (just so you know)... I really don't want to argue homosexuality now.

 

Let us know how your Uncle's decision to stop being gay works out.

 

LoL.

[Jinnah]

Let us know how your Uncle's decision to stop being gay works out.

 

LoL.

 

Even though I realize you are sadistic and sarcastic, you should know that actually he made that decision years ago, so pretty well, I'd say.

[disgracian]

Interesting. You lambast my knowledge of the Bible, then proceed to write out a "correct" interpretation of Paul's writings that is almost a verbatim copy of mine. The only thing you left out was my assessment that Paul was an extremist, and he most certainly was.

 

Cheers,

D.

[Jinnah]

Interesting. You lambast my knowledge of the Bible, then proceed to write out a "correct" interpretation of Paul's writings that is almost a verbatim copy of mine. The only thing you left out was my assessment that Paul was an extremist, and he most certainly was.

 

Cheers,

D.

 

A couple of words thrown in here and there can change the entire meaning of something.

[Vixen763]

well i have been quiet because the discussion turned to religious and i did not want to assume i know much abvout religion to even be writting anything.

 

Besides me and my love seem on the verge of breaking up! This religion issue has become a storm and really i see no reason to stay in this relationship because it will bring me future stress...

We seem not to reach a compromise and i think more than one month is a long time to be talking about something and reaching no compromise..

 

The other reason is he seems a little immature relationshipwise....

 

Maybe i should be out there and looking

[disgracian]

For the one who couldn't remain faithful, you seem to be adopting the moral highground for the break-up with consumate ease.

 

Cheers,

D.

[taiko]

For the one who couldn't remain faithful, you seem to be adopting the moral highground for the break-up with consumate ease.

 

Cheers,

D.

 

I think that all groups invovled here. The atheist, Christians and Muslims all agree.

[bish]

and reaching no compromise..

 

The other reason is he seems a little immature relationshipwise....

 

You cheat on him, and HE is immature "relationshipwise"???......uh...ok...

 

 

Maybe i should be out there and looking

 

Gee what a surprise...something that you did even WHILE you claimed you love him.

[Aintayankee]

Don't do it. He will get controlling, if he isn't already. My professor said you can't get out of Islam, except death maybe. They are crazy about Allah and sh**.

[disgracian]

I love how we overlook infidelity on the Christian's part to deried the Muslim guy who's done nothing wrong. You all need to take a good hard look at yourselves.

 

Cheers,

D.

[bish]

I love how we overlook infidelity on the Christian's part to deried the Muslim guy who's done nothing wrong. You all need to take a good hard look at yourselves.

 

Cheers,

D.

 

Who is we? I didn't overlook her cheating at all.

[taiko]

Who is we? I didn't overlook her cheating at all.

 

Nobody did until Antiyankee came in.

I've been argueing that because the Christian did not live up to the example of who her boyfriend sees as the Prophet Jesus and because Muslim and Christian theology makes him the spiritual head of the house their is no way he will convert.

And that her behaviour makes it increasingly necessary for him to get her to convert to Islam for him to continue the relationship.

[disgracian]

Who is we? I didn't overlook her cheating at all.

I didn't mean everybody, but if you go back through the 13 pages of drama you'll see plenty of idiots along the way, popping out of the woodwork to make bigoted comments about this guy for no reason other than the fact he's Muslim and they might have just finished watching "Not Without My Daughter".

 

Cheers,

D.

[bish]

Nobody did until Antiyankee came in.

 

Then you need to go back and read my replies to her in her other thread that she started before she started this one where the focus was on her cheating.

[Vixen763]

well, the relationship is over. Religion-wise i dont think it was ever gonna work especially ifi ahd to give up my beliefs...(remember thats all i ahve known since i was born almost three decades ago) and i dont see myself change just coz of love/marriage....it would be cheating myslef, because i would not be changing because i wnated to change, but to make the other half happy and have a happy relationship. I may not be exactly the best (and Bish i hope you smile on this) but i know that its not worth it, me changing for another person and not for the soul purpose of faith...

 

Bish does that make sense....subject reference should eb closed please because the relationship ended...unless you have something new for me.

 

If he ever commits to letting me keep my faith, and him, his faith, and if we will both still want another go at trying again, i guess we will talk from that point of view

[bish]

well, the relationship is over. Religion-wise i dont think it was ever gonna work especially ifi ahd to give up my beliefs...(remember thats all i ahve known since i was born almost three decades ago) and i dont see myself change just coz of love/marriage....it would be cheating myslef, because i would not be changing because i wnated to change, but to make the other half happy and have a happy relationship. I may not be exactly the best (and Bish i hope you smile on this) but i know that its not worth it, me changing for another person and not for the soul purpose of faith...

 

So you didn't end it for the "sole" purpose of faith...meaning you didn't want to change something else about yourself enough to want to be with him...would that be changing in the arena of fidelity?

 

Bish does that make sense....subject reference should eb closed please because the relationship ended...unless you have something new for me.

 

It doesn't make sense...but it doesn't really matter. The issue has been resolved. he won't have to put up with whether or not he can trust you now.

[Vixen763]

So you didn't end it for the "sole" purpose of faith...meaning you didn't want to change something else about yourself enough to want to be with him...would that be changing in the arena of fidelity?

 

 

 

It doesn't make sense...but it doesn't really matter. The issue has been resolved. he won't have to put up with whether or not he can trust you now.

 

I still maintian that you must have been hurt os badly and that has made you fail to move on...you unforgiving.....&^%$#*@.

 

I cheated...Yes i did. Nobody forced me to come clean and i could have kept quiet if i did not figure out it was a wrong thing to do. But i chose to come clean and even though you expected that he (just as angry as you are) would have thrown me out, he forgave me and wanted to make things work out, if i wanted the same. What makes you want to torment me over it for life....? That you can not discuss anything sensibly/reasonable without having to drag a past infidelity into the issue. The religion issue had nothing to do with my past infidelity, or if it did, he had the courtesy not to bring it up and mix up the issues. I think he was very reasonable and you, who claims to feel for him, have refused to move on form that point that you keep refering to the same thing over and over....How annoying you must be to your partner, if at all you have any. I doubt your capacity to ahve any, because in all the advise i ahve recieved, even for posts that i would have carried as negative, none has been like yours and i would appreciate much as i dont hold the choice that, you cease from writting/responding back to my posts (thank you for what you ahve helped so far) but i can do without your advise because of all the posts i ahve recieved, (including the criticism) none has been as less useful as your posts.

 

I have had to say this to you because i think you will get it this time.

 

1. The relationship ended, not because i cheated....but because i figured out i do not wnat to change my religion just because i love someone. I figured out, the future might have me forced to change.

 

2. I cheated and i regreted it and repented. Both of us moved on from that point. who are you to keep putting it in my face.

 

3. I still love him, he still loves me....but i figure out, lets not change one another for the sake of love esp on religion. One has got to change because they feel faith for what they want to change to

 

4. Bish get a life and learn to forgive

 

5. Give me a break

[Jinnah]

I still maintian that you must have been hurt os badly and that has made you fail to move on...you unforgiving...

 

...I cheated...Yes i did. Nobody forced me to come clean and i could have kept quiet if i did not figure out it was a wrong thing to do. But i chose to come clean and even though you expected that he (just as angry as you are) would have thrown me out, he forgave me and wanted to make things work out, if i wanted the same. What makes you want to torment me over it for life....? That you can not discuss anything sensibly/reasonable without having to drag a past infidelity into the issue. The religion issue had nothing to do with my past infidelity, or if it did, he had the courtesy not to bring it up and mix up the issues. I think he was very reasonable and you, who claims to feel for him, have refused to move on form that point that you keep refering to the same thing over and over....How annoying you must be to your partner, if at all you have any. I doubt your capacity to ahve any, because in all the advise i ahve recieved, even for posts that i would have carried as negative, none has been like yours and i would appreciate much as i dont hold the choice that, you cease from writting/responding back to my posts (thank you for what you ahve helped so far) but i can do without your advise because of all the posts i ahve recieved, (including the criticism) none has been as less useful as your posts.

 

I have had to say this to you because i think you will get it this time.

 

1. The relationship ended, not because i cheated....but because i figured out i do not wnat to change my religion just because i love someone. I figured out, the future might have me forced to change.

 

2. I cheated and i regreted it and repented. Both of us moved on from that point. who are you to keep putting it in my face.

 

3. I still love him, he still loves me....but i figure out, lets not change one another for the sake of love esp on religion. One has got to change because they feel faith for what they want to change to

 

4. Bish get a life and learn to forgive

 

5. Give me a break

 

I agree with Vixen on this post. Her original post had nothing to do with a past infidelity. Yes, she did something wrong, but as she has repeatedly said, she realized her fault and repented. God and her ex were able to forgive her for that... those are the only two people that she needed to explain herself to. No one else.

 

She asked for help on a completely different topic and that has now be resolved.

 

Still praying for you Vixen... I just know you will be blessed.

[disgracian]

I took issue with the way Vixen self-righteously put all the blame on her now-ex for the decision to break up, as if rationalising her actions and fishing for support here. She can't keep her legs closed, yet he is immature relationship-wise? Haha!

 

Cheers,

D.

[Vixen763]

Hi,

I am sorry if in any way i put blame on my now ex....

Maybe i should have explained more what i meant by immature.... Well there are things that we talked about for a while and i was slowly gathering that perception.

 

the relationship ended not bcause he did anything wrong but from the advice i was getting on this forum, i figured out, that it was best to braek up than each one of us, to wait around and hope that we can change the other. I ahd no intentions to change him but he was still holding on to the hope that in future if i loved him more than i was then, i would change for him and just for the sake of us being one... to me that had nothing to do with my beliefs/faith in the religion

 

so i figured out it was best to leave things as they are and continue to eb friends which we have always been and yes we still talk, only as friends this time.

 

enough said about/to Bish

[Vixen763]

Just came back to let you know that we are still together. so whoever wasnt up to advising me on the subject just because it was two months, well we still together and still counting but religion still remains in bewteen there. we love eachother so much, now more than ever and he will be coming again to see me in july 2008

 

anyway question for the day is; is it true that two people who ahve been best friends can find it difficult to live happily everafter just because they seem to know eachpther alot and therefore there are no surprises? i wonder if this is the right forum for this question

[disgracian]

I would have thought it would be an advantage to know each other extremely well. It's a good sign if both people know each others' secrets and still aren't put off.

 

Cheers,

D.

[sb129]

July 2008- thats still quite a long way away....

 

Sure, so you are defying the odds.

 

For now... the religion issue isn't going to go away, and a LDR means you can conveniently put it on the back burner while you rack up those oh-so-important calendar months "together".