zilverenvlinder Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 Just my little rant of the day. I keep reading posts on here about how girls are so worried their boyfriends are cheating on them, because they changed their shirt in the middle of the day or because the phone rang and they didn't pick it up one time... or something similar. I realize this place is for helping people prove their suspicions, or just vent about how strangely their significant others are acting...when they just change a little, tiny fragment of their daily routine. The worst part is... I was never one of those people. I was always the girlfriend who gave so much space, never questioned my man on his whereabouts, didn't call him all night long like your typical jealous freakshow woman, and he always, ALWAYS assured me that he was being the perfect gentleman on these "guy's nights" that he so frequently needed. Guess who got screwed over? The crazies who cling on to their men like glue, or the sane one who let their man have some space? Yep. You guessed it. I don't get it. You men are always crying about how we girls don't give you enough "space" or "time with the fellas" and then we give it to you and you walk all over us like carpet. Sorry if that was a gender judgment. But I'm just really hurting today. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 I am sorry about what you are going through but not all men are like that. My wife doesn't try to control me at all and I could easily cheat on her and get away with it but I don't. This man abused your trust and one day he will regret it. Link to post Share on other sites
Author zilverenvlinder Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share Posted August 14, 2007 Sorry Woggle. I know you're obviously a good guy. Unfortunately, I find it very hard to believe that I'll be in a trusting relationship anytime in the near future. I mean, women do the same thing. It's not just guys. It's just...like...this whole big f*#&ed up situation. They tell us that if you cling on too much, they'll slip through your fingers. How is this proving that philosophy? I guess it just has to do with the person. As I was, yes indeed, snooping, through his MySpace, I went allll the way back 150 pages of messages to when he was with his last girlfriend two years ago. In between their little "Love ya hope to see you later!" messages, there were two in between women with whom he exchanged messages like, "Hey, sexy...wanna come to the bar tonight?..." or "...you looked so good last night, I wanted to eat you up..." Ew ew ew. Once a cheater, always a cheater. Link to post Share on other sites
Carbine Posted August 16, 2007 Share Posted August 16, 2007 Guess who got screwed over? The crazies who cling on to their men like glue, or the sane one who let their man have some space? Yep. You guessed it. I don't get it. I hate to rain on your typical non-jealous, non-freakshow parade but, um...YES WE DO, ACTUALLY!!!!!___ (btw I feel that a Smilie is in order, but since I'm unable to find one that represents "you just can't win can you?? Perhaps we should all learn to lighten up but I highly doubt it, and I think I'm about to snap", I chose to leave the space respectfully blank). - Typical Jealous Freakshow Woman Link to post Share on other sites
Capricorn Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Now you know why perfectly sane women turn into "jealous psychos"! My best friend has been married 10 years and her husband has ruined her. She is beautiful, a good wife and mother to their 3 sons but that was not good enough for him. He's cheated on her many times and has ruined her self esteem and trust. I used to never be jealous either till every guy I was ever with screwed me over. Now unfortunatly I am insecure and jealous. Besides that most of the men I know atleast 8 out of 10 cheat on their wives or girlfriends. Sure they're just looking at porn and other women for fun. Believe that if you were born yesterday!!! They're probably shopping for a new version of the female species. I apologize for the negativity but after all I've seen in my life I have basically lost faith in men and love. Good luck in your quest for a decent man. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 If one of you found a guy that treated you right and didn't screw you over you would lose interest and fall out of love with him. I am sorry but it is the truth. Men will do whatever gets results and being a jerk gets results. It is a rare woman that actually appreciates a man who treats her well. Link to post Share on other sites
Krytellan Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 If one of you found a guy that treated you right and didn't screw you over you would lose interest and fall out of love with him. I am sorry but it is the truth. Men will do whatever gets results and being a jerk gets results. It is a rare woman that actually appreciates a man who treats her well. This is as true as all of the women's accusations on this thread, but they won't see that. Link to post Share on other sites
Capricorn Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 If your reffering to what I said, it's not just an accusation about the men I know but FACT. I just don't feel like taking the time to type the names of all the guys I know who are cheaters. I know many women walking through life with broken hearts and barely a drop of self esteem. If a guy was actually decent I would feel like I won the ****ing lottery. I would so appreciate a sweet guy that made me feel secure and truely loved. I don't like bad boy types, a lot of women do but not me, I've had enough drama and head games!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 If your reffering to what I said, it's not just an accusation about the men I know but FACT. I just don't feel like taking the time to type the names of all the guys I know who are cheaters. I know many women walking through life with broken hearts and barely a drop of self esteem. If a guy was actually decent I would feel like I won the ****ing lottery. I would so appreciate a sweet guy that made me feel secure and truely loved. I don't like bad boy types, a lot of women do but not me, I've had enough drama and head games!!! If you are sincere about what you say you should find a good man in a heartbeat if you dropped the bitterness a little bit. A woman that appreicates a man who treats her well is a rare gem indeed. Link to post Share on other sites
crzyblndstar Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 If one of you found a guy that treated you right and didn't screw you over you would lose interest and fall out of love with him. I am sorry but it is the truth. Men will do whatever gets results and being a jerk gets results. It is a rare woman that actually appreciates a man who treats her well. Woggle, I completely agree with this. I have been in this situation. I don't know if it is because I am young or just that I am screwed up in the head. I have been with a guy who treated me like a princess. He would've never done anything to jepordize our relationship and guess what.....I got bored. I know its not right and I am one of those women who just wants a guy to treat her good and want her as much as she wants him, but it seems that whenever that happens the guy wants me too much and it just becomes uninteresting. Again, I am not bragging about this. I know it is not right, but I don't know how to change it. Maybe I need to seek some professional help. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 At least you are honest about it. If you give a hungry person food and all they do is throw it back at in your face would you keep giving it to them? The answer is no and the same concept applies to relationships. Many men give a woman nothing but love and affection and it gets thrown back in his face so what is the incentive for a man to treat a woman right. What do men gain from being a gentlemen? The answer in many cases is nothing. Men will do what works and what gets results and being the type of man that Capricorn and other women like her complain about is what gets results. Link to post Share on other sites
East of Jupiter Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Wow ... so many generalizations, so little time. The one generalization I will agree to is that you get what you're looking for. Though often, you don't even know what you are looking for until you find it. Trial and error. Farking life. If you keep finding the same thing you don't want, don't blame the turd for being a turd (hehhe - someone taught me that recently). You should be asking not why the world is full of turds, but why do I keep choosing turds? Link to post Share on other sites
popey Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 you are not alone. I was a non-jealous, trusting girlfriend who gave alot of freedom. More than once this was used against me. So now I am not so stupid and naive, and some would criticize me as simply paranoid and jealous. Link to post Share on other sites
Carbine Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 A woman that appreicates a man who treats her well is a rare gem indeed. And a man who actually knows the meaning of 'treating her well' is an even rarer gem. I do not see many 'rarer gems' floating around here or anywhere else for that matter. Woggle, what is your advice on how to treat a woman well? Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 And a man who actually knows the meaning of 'treating her well' is an even rarer gem. I do not see many 'rarer gems' floating around here or anywhere else for that matter. Woggle, what is your advice on how to treat a woman well? Treat a woman the way you would want to be treated and the same applies in reverse. Link to post Share on other sites
Lyssa Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Treat a woman the way you would want to be treated and the same applies in reverse. You seriously believe that? Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 You seriously believe that? Yes. Why shouldn't a person treat their mate the way they would want to be treated? Link to post Share on other sites
Lyssa Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Yes. Why shouldn't a person treat their mate the way they would want to be treated? It's not that I don't agree with you.. I always treat people the way I want to be treated, but I don't get the same in return. One of my ex-bf, I treated him well, everyone could see that but in return - he was seeing his ex behind my back, was physically abused once or twice and not too mention he was mentally abusive as well (that happened pretty much every other day!). Because of that one man in my life, I kinda lost my belief in 'treat a person the way you want to be treated'. Link to post Share on other sites
Carbine Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 Yes. Why shouldn't a person treat their mate the way they would want to be treated? Oh, sorry, I forgot that people are generally infallible. My utmost apologies. Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 At least you are honest about it. If you give a hungry person food and all they do is throw it back at in your face would you keep giving it to them? The answer is no and the same concept applies to relationships. Many men give a woman nothing but love and affection and it gets thrown back in his face so what is the incentive for a man to treat a woman right. What do men gain from being a gentlemen? The answer in many cases is nothing. Men will do what works and what gets results and being the type of man that Capricorn and other women like her complain about is what gets results. too true! I'm 25 and just learned this recently after I last got dumped and indeed I'll never be so nice to a woman again as I've always been in the past. 'treat people the way you would like to be treated' is a motto I've now learned to stop following coz it gets you nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites
Woggle Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 My motto is if a woman treats me the way I want to be treated I will trear her the way she wants to be treated but if she doesn't then I will treat her to a one way ticket out of my life. Link to post Share on other sites
lino Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 Thats cool but I don't think I'm even gonna do that, too many girls are too good at being fake. The only people who I'll be treating as I'd like to be treated from now on are myself, my parents & my very close friends. Link to post Share on other sites
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