RealityCheck Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 so if i believe that all people who want to eat vanilla ice cream, have clear intentions to order vanilla, will order vanilla so long as the store carries it, i must need professional help? why does this not make sense to you? stop spazzing out, calm down, and think about it before you fly off the handle. appearing unstable doesn't make people get your point. I'm quite relaxed thank you! That is how you seem to see me. It REALLY is not how I am in the moment. Calm as a cucumber actually. Link to post Share on other sites
KenzieAbsolutely Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I'm quite relaxed thank you! That is how you seem to see me. It REALLY is not how I am in the moment. Calm as a cucumber actually. oh, okay then. Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 RC, Is your exclamation point key stuck or are you just in danger of bursting a blood vessel? Calm down, and perhaps you can formulate an original thought. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 TC, Are you through ranting? Funny, you don't sound like you've healed and moved on. Just an observation, but you really need to chill. No I'm not I still have A LOT more in me on this topic! My healing has nothing to do with the fact that all the trite comments that are made here irritate me. So sitting here allowing you to make asinine comments about my reality would be the only way to indicate that I am recovered or healed and anything otherwise indicates I am not? LOL God I would hate to be your spouse or child if that is your idea of understanding. Talk about my way or the highway. Again a simpleton conclusion based on their reality. These very comments that are supposed to define me as a W or human being come from pedestrian minds who are under the dillusion that they are above the rest of society and hence they can peg people who happen to come together via a similar experience, as one big clone of each other. Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 RC, Is your exclamation point key stuck or are you just in danger of bursting a blood vessel? Calm down, and perhaps you can formulate an original thought. Now I heard everything! Using punctuation has NOTHING to do with my calm relaxed state! Here hows this If it makes you feel better I will gladly use that after each sentence. smoooooooooooooch Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 As I can tell you a lot of things from a woman's prespective that would make you puke and actually even hate women. I would however be sepaking from my own ideologies, so if I make you puke it's me speaking I cannot speak for all women, nor can you speak for all men. While you may offer some insight into how a man is wired, I would appreciate that much more than a woman telling what a man feels. And a woman who was nothing like the man I was involved with. I understand what your trying to say... just realize that we guys know each other in a way that may be difficult for you to understand. Yeah, ideology plays a role, and I'm not making some universal blanket statement here for everyone, but you need to realize something about men. We put these trappings of civilzation on, but down inside there is still that nasty brutish side. I know women have this to a degree, but its rarely to the same level. Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 No I'm not I still have A LOT more in me on this topic! . Can't wait! Oh, and we pedestrian minds generally aren't delusional, but we sure can spell it! Link to post Share on other sites
KenzieAbsolutely Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 No I'm not I still have A LOT more in me on this topic! My healing has nothing to do with the fact that all the trite comments that are made here irritate me. So sitting here allowing you to make asinine comments about my reality would be the only way to indicate that I am recovered or healed and anything otherwise indicates I am not? LOL God I would hate to be your spouse or child if that is your idea of understanding. Talk about my way or the highway. Again a simpleton conclusion based on their reality. These very comments that are supposed to define me as a W or human being come from pedestrian minds who are under the dillusion that they are above the rest of society and hence they can peg people who happen to come together via a similar experience, as one big clone of each other. i think you're just taking it as someone trying to define 'you'. none of it was personal, and you shouldn't take it that way. it seems like you're taking on the responsibility of disproving assumptions that aren't made about you, which indicates that you do understand what is meant here. it's not anti-tomcat day here for me, so don't think that's where i am coming from. i wish you would really read what i have said and see it's not made to hurt you, it isn't about you. if you want to hate everyone that you think is against you based on these things that's fine, but you're not realizing some of us are your allies, not your enemies, and not just people here to get their kicks on making you miserable. if it doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you, so you don't have to be the spokesperson if it's not your situation that is being discussed Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Now I heard everything! Using punctuation has NOTHING to do with my calm relaxed state! Isn't that the point of punctuation marks? To emphasize the feeling one is trying to convey? Exclamation point = excitement...I guess all those English teachers had it all wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 i think you're just taking it as someone trying to define 'you'. none of it was personal, and you shouldn't take it that way. it seems like you're taking on the responsibility of disproving assumptions that aren't made about you, which indicates that you do understand what is meant here. it's not anti-tomcat day here for me, so don't think that's where i am coming from. i wish you would really read what i have said and see it's not made to hurt you, it isn't about you. if you want to hate everyone that you think is against you based on these things that's fine, but you're not realizing some of us are your allies, not your enemies, and not just people here to get their kicks on making you miserable. if it doesn't apply to you, it doesn't apply to you, so you don't have to be the spokesperson if it's not your situation that is being discussed KA....I read your last couple of posts and I did not view your posts as a generalization. I never did get that impression. I just wanted you to know that! (darn those exclamations marks) Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 it's not idealistic to think that people seek out what they are looking for. that is all that is being said here. a married man would less likely approach a woman who staunchly refuses to date a married man. he would be more likely to approach someone he thought he might have a chance with. if he gets that chance, he was right. why does that bother you so much? Well yes that is a very vanilla explanation on how life works or how As start. Again, that is based on the preconceived notion that a party went out looking to have an A and another party is so lost they will take an A over having nothing. How much more basic can an alpha point be? If you could part step away from that very basic dea for one second and open your mind to the complexities of how As actually happen in many cases, you might have a better chance at understading us when we ask that you put the brush down and actually look at the pallette which is filled with many many colours other than white, and black. Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Isn't that the point of punctuation marks? To emphasize the feeling one is trying to convey? Exclamation point = excitement...I guess all those English teachers had it all wrong. Are you for real? Seriously! You actually believe that because I used an exclamation key that my body is excited? Wow! Is that how you do business as well when you are typing a letter? Geez, you do really need to "Fix Yourself". Link to post Share on other sites
KenzieAbsolutely Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Well yes that is a very vanilla explanation on how life works or how As start. Again, that is based on the preconceived notion that a party went out looking to have an A and another party is so lost they will take an A over having nothing. How much more basic can an alpha point be? If you could part step away from that very basic dea for one second and open your mind to the complexities of how As actually happen in many cases, you might have a better chance at understading us when we ask that you put the brush down and actually look at the pallette which is filled with many many colours other than white, and black. but that's the point! it was meant to be a 'very vanilla' explanation, with the understanding, the GIVEN that everyone is different, with different situations and different circumstances...and that even with all the differences, some things don't change, the very basic is a constant. and that constant in this case is the fact that a married man is not going to seek out a woman he knows will not have an affair if an affair is his goal. i have been an OW. i've looked at the palette, i've justified and argued and differentiated and done all that. and i'm not saying any of that is wrong either, every person does that for him or herself no matter what the situation! you just want to think i hate you, or you just want to hate me. and i don't understand why. Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 You crack me up RC. Those Canadian schools sure are funny... Oh and, yes, when typing a letter I generally use the exclamation point to convey excitement. Go figure. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 but that's the point! it was meant to be a 'very vanilla' explanation, with the understanding, the GIVEN that everyone is different, with different situations and different circumstances...and that even with all the differences, some things don't change, the very basic is a constant. and that constant in this case is the fact that a married man is not going to seek out a woman he knows will not have an affair if an affair is his goal. i have been an OW. i've looked at the palette, i've justified and argued and differentiated and done all that. and i'm not saying any of that is wrong either, every person does that for him or herself no matter what the situation! you just want to think i hate you, or you just want to hate me. and i don't understand why. KA this has nothing to do with YOU or ME personally, I don't hate you or think you hate me we don't even know each other, let's see a bit of what we are about before we decide to hate each other shall we? :laugh: My comments about ME are really about ME in the OW costume, and certain posters here, not you your arguments just got thrown into the equation and I respect that I like opposing views I am cool with that I just don't like to be told what I was and was not in the realm of my rel with my ex-guy. When a poster lists a checklist of things that I should have been living just because I was in a situation that involved a M man, it does not make that my reality. Life isn't check lists, or laundry lists it's thoughts and choices and cirmcumstancial reactions based on existential truths. I am just sick of seeing the generalizations such as "how could you not feel used?" or "how could you not feel guilty for breaking up a marriage etc" it would be like me saying to anyone out there "how come you don't feel fat?" And their response would be "ahhhhhh welll because I am not fat, therefore I don't feel fat" but some posters wont stop until one admits they feel fat. I'm sorry but I don't feel "fat" and I am not going to post otherwise to appease the preconceived notions some posters on here have on what my or any of the As on here encompassed. THAT'S what ticks me off. Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 You crack me up RC. Those Canadian schools sure are funny... Oh and, yes, when typing a letter I generally use the exclamation point to convey excitement. Go figure. Yes! Our Canadian schools have taught us how to use our words well that would not even require using any punctuation at all to get our point across:D Listen to you:D Now you are knocking a Country:D Go write a letter to yourself. She needs to know you care about her very much:D Link to post Share on other sites
KenzieAbsolutely Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 KA this has nothing to do with YOU or ME personally, I don't hate you or think you hate me we don't even know each other, let's see a bit of what we are about before we decide to hate each other shall we? :laugh: My comments about ME are really about ME in the OW costume, and certain posters here, not you your arguments just got thrown into the equation and I respect that I like opposing views I am cool with that I just don't like to be told what I was and was not in the realm of my rel with my ex-guy. When a poster lists a checklist of things that I should have been living just because I was in a situation that involved a M man, it does not make that my reality. Life isn't check lists, or laundry lists it's thoughts and choices and cirmcumstancial reactions based on existential truths. I am just sick of seeing the generalizations such as "how could you not feel used?" or "how could you not feel guilty for breaking up a marriage etc" it would be like me saying to anyone out there "how come you don't feel fat?" And their response would be "ahhhhhh welll because I am not fat, therefore I don't feel fat" but some posters wont stop until one admits they feel fat. I'm sorry but I don't feel "fat" and I am not going to post otherwise to appease the preconceived notions some posters on here have on what my or any of the As on here encompassed. THAT'S what ticks me off. i understand what you mean, i really do, and i don't mean to come off like i don't. i get it. i just wanted you to get me and what i was actually saying, not what you thought i was implying. it might not be what you agree with, but it isn't coming with the malice you might expect. i'm no angel, trust me on that one. Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 i understand what you mean, i really do, and i don't mean to come off like i don't. i get it. i just wanted you to get me and what i was actually saying, not what you thought i was implying. it might not be what you agree with, but it isn't coming with the malice you might expect. i'm no angel, trust me on that one. Me too KA.....thanks for sharing. *shake hands* Link to post Share on other sites
KenzieAbsolutely Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Me too KA.....thanks for sharing. *shake hands* i appreciate that, thank you very much. :bunny: Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 i appreciate that, thank you very much. :bunny: You are more than welcome:bunny: Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Well yes that is a very vanilla explanation on how life works or how As start. Again, that is based on the preconceived notion that a party went out looking to have an A and another party is so lost they will take an A over having nothing. Fine, instead of telling us how wrong we are, and how much we generalize, why don't you tell us how A's start? If we've got it all wrong, then tell us how it is. Is that so hard? If you could part step away from that very basic dea for one second and open your mind to the complexities of how As actually happen in many cases, you might have a better chance at understading us Again, TELL US how affairs "actually happen". Wouldn't that be more efficient than continually whining about how wrong we are? This reminds me of AP who constantly talked about what horrible things MM "did to her". In the end, he had done nothing, by her own admission, in earlier posts. It was just her perception that had changed, but the reality was a different story altogether. Link to post Share on other sites
GreenEyedLady Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Fine, instead of telling us how wrong we are, and how much we generalize, why don't you tell us how A's start? If we've got it all wrong, then tell us how it is. Is that so hard? Hmm...Once upon a time there was a GreenEyedLady and she met a man...and he said he was divorced and he sure seemed like it and so they dated and dated and dated... That's how some A's start... Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Yes! Our Canadian schools have taught us how to use our words well that would not even require using any punctuation at all to get our point across:D Listen to you:D Now you are knocking a Country:D Go write a letter to yourself. She needs to know you care about her very much:D I thought Oysters were an aphrodisiac? Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I thought Oysters were an aphrodisiac? Indeed they are Cobra, care to take a bite! Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Fine, instead of telling us how wrong we are, and how much we generalize, why don't you tell us how A's start? If we've got it all wrong, then tell us how it is. Is that so hard? Hmm...Once upon a time there was a GreenEyedLady and she met a man...and he said he was divorced and he sure seemed like it and so they dated and dated and dated... That's how some A's start... And in a far away land called "never, never" there is a tunnel...without a clear vision......lol Link to post Share on other sites
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