Author PoshPrincess Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 I believe you deserve such love and even more from a unmarried man, not secretly. When you are ok with the position of being an OW, he will automaticlly think you don't look yourself as the way you should look at yourself or you don't value yourself much as you should. That is how human being built. If you allow them treat you certain way, and they will. How about think he actually did a favor to you? that you will meet a more wonderful man in future, and this man will make a full commitment to you If you believe in God, that is more simple, just ask God to send you one, prayers work wonderfully I used to believe in God (I was brought up Catholic) but things that have happened in my life have changed that, although I still have some sort of (misguided?) loyalty towards my religion. I do believe in Karma though so after having a R with a MM, I don't think God is gonna be answering any of MY prayers anytime soon! You're right. MM DID do me a favour. I know exactly what I want from a man now and I also know NEVER to get involved with anyone else's man again. Too much heartache for all concerned (except maybe MM!) Thanks, Lonely Bird! x Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Why oh why oh why does it always have to be about GOD?????!!!!!! How has the religion and spirituality forum managed to infiltrate all the other ones?? PP- I was with a MM, and initially it made me feel special because I was obviously hot enough to lure another man away from his wife. At the time, i would have sworn black and blue that it was more than that, that we had a connection blah blah, but at the end of the day, my self esteem got a kick out of being the OW. (to begin with).... then the whole thing descended into a mess. I should have got out, but I didn't cos i was damned if I was going to give up on my "prize". I got the prize at the end of the road, and the MM had so many issues and self esteem problems of his own that he ended up making me feel like S***. I got out in the end, realised my self worth, and met the man of my dreams. Being with a MM was good for one thing- it taught me NEVER to settle for sloppy seconds, and it taught me to truly appreciate a wonderful, caring , monogamous man when they come along. GOD had nothing to so with it. i didn't find god, i found MYSELF. With the help of prozac, and alot of support from friends. i wish some people would chill out on the god issue, and leave it in the appropriate forums. Link to post Share on other sites
GreenEyedLady Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 I wish some people would chill out on the god issue, and leave it in the appropriate forums. Amen...oops, can I say that? Link to post Share on other sites
Author PoshPrincess Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 Why oh why oh why does it always have to be about GOD?????!!!!!! How has the religion and spirituality forum managed to infiltrate all the other ones?? PP- I was with a MM, and initially it made me feel special because I was obviously hot enough to lure another man away from his wife. At the time, i would have sworn black and blue that it was more than that, that we had a connection blah blah, but at the end of the day, my self esteem got a kick out of being the OW. (to begin with).... then the whole thing descended into a mess. I should have got out, but I didn't cos i was damned if I was going to give up on my "prize". I got the prize at the end of the road, and the MM had so many issues and self esteem problems of his own that he ended up making me feel like S***. I got out in the end, realised my self worth, and met the man of my dreams. Being with a MM was good for one thing- it taught me NEVER to settle for sloppy seconds, and it taught me to truly appreciate a wonderful, caring , monogamous man when they come along. GOD had nothing to so with it. i didn't find god, i found MYSELF. With the help of prozac, and alot of support from friends. i wish some people would chill out on the god issue, and leave it in the appropriate forums. I agree with you re the 'God' thing but was worried about being offensive! We are all entitled to our opinions though! I'm glad you got the hell out of your R with MM if it wasn't for you. Of course, it works for some! I'm ashamed to say I had an A with a MM before, years ago (when I was too young to know any better ) but it was never love and I'm pleased to say, I didn't get any BS from that MM, so it was easy to end things and move on. I think I just got caught up with latest MM at a v vulnerable time in my life (same for him I guess) and hadn't given myself time to get over the break-up of my LTR, so maybe my current pain is a culmination of both! What the hell (am I allowed to say THAT?!) Time to move on..... Link to post Share on other sites
Herzen Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 "GOD had nothing to so with it. i didn't find god, i found MYSELF. With the help of prozac, and alot of support from friends." Funny, wise and true. Nicely said. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 "GOD had nothing to so with it. i didn't find god, i found MYSELF. With the help of prozac, and alot of support from friends." Funny, wise and true. Nicely said. Thanks. It wasn;t easy at the time.... but it really helped me get some badly needed perspective. Link to post Share on other sites
Author PoshPrincess Posted August 31, 2007 Author Share Posted August 31, 2007 Thanks. It wasn;t easy at the time.... but it really helped me get some badly needed perspective. I need to tell myself that if I HAD ended up with him it probably wouldn't have worked anyway. Too much baggage for both of us! At least I may have realised that he wasn't the totally wonderful, lovely, perfect man I thought he was! Link to post Share on other sites
code five Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 The hardest thing with our break-up was that he couldn't tell me he didn't love me. If he had said, "It was a mistake, I don't love you, I love my wife!" it would've been so much easier to understand. Instead, for a long time, he left me half thinking that one day there may be a chance for us because he still loved me. At least that isn't the case now so maybe I CAN finally move on in time. I can relate to this very well Posh. If the MW I was involved with just had the courage, respect and heart to let me know it was over I wouldn't be having such a hard time. I think back to the way I felt with her... I loved it. It had been some time since I was involved with anyone and I felt like I could do anything with her in my life. In many ways I have to agree with her Therapist - she was my cheerleader. As you know from reading my post, I fell really hard for her - our chemistry together was the most powerful I have ever encountered. You know what I mean - you just 'know'. It's hard to explain I guess. But, bottom line here - yes, you may have gotten involved too soon, but take a close look at what you have now with your BF. I am sure he has some of the attributes/qualities/etc. of the MM or else you would not have been attracted to him. Banish the thought of the MM - so hard to do but its critical if you want to move on. I have grown tired of waking up in the morning and missing her voice. Tired of the tears, tired of the sadness. Tired of looking at my cell waiting for it to ring. Tired of all of the pain... A friend of mine metioned to me last night: "Look at it from the positive side. You have some loving memories - remember them and cherish them. Remember that there will always be more. She is one of a million, not one in a million. Plus, she didn't really care for you or she would've handled the end better than just leaving you hanging." Hope this helps. Hang in there hon... the sun is shining Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 i wish some people would chill out on the god issue, and leave it in the appropriate forums. God answers prayers, and I saw God helped me in such a supernature way, so just wanted to share I wonder why you don't want to see other people get saved and get blessings from God? Oh, God answers prayers not because we are perfect, but because we believe in God and his power. we are saved not because we are righteous, but because God has mercy on us. Jesus said he came for sinners. Posh, did you invite Lord enter your heart? if so he will send Holy Spirit to us, it is totally amazing experience than just sitting there listen what priest have to say. Holy Spirit stay with us, give us advise, perform miracles, heal diseases, even comfort us, I never know everyone loves me like Lord did Oh, well, I am going to pray and ask God for more miracles Link to post Share on other sites
Love is Tragic Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Wow, you sound sooo much like me, and some of the same feelings i had towards MM, except i had a husband and a MM. I too, didnt really receive ANY closure from MM, we had a couple of phone conversations where he hinted around that he couldnt do this anymore(caught by the wife) and he couldnt lose his kids, blah blah. But he would always keep saying that he still wanted to talk to me, etc.. Then he just stopped calling, and ive been trying my damndest to get over him. (we used to talk multiple times almost every single day). Im guessing you feel as if all the time you had with MM didnt matter to him, even though youre the one who made NC. I think it hurts your feelings to know that he can just be "fine" with not talking to/seeing you ever again, makes you wonder if it all was fake. I feel exactly the same way. I know in my heart we shared something special, and had a great connection, and love was definitely involved-so for him to shut everything down the way he did is confusing and heartbreaking. Even though i am putting 110% into my marriage, there will always be that lingering feeling in my heart that i cant shake. I still think of him often, though i know there can never be anything between us. What makes me miss him the most is that he really understood me, and once you have that, its shattering to lose. I basically lost my best friend, and i can only hope that time heals these wounds. Good luck to you! Find someone who treats you as a priority, not just an option. Link to post Share on other sites
code five Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I too, didnt really receive ANY closure from MM, we had a couple of phone conversations where he hinted around that he couldnt do this anymore(caught by the wife) and he couldnt lose his kids, blah blah. But he would always keep saying that he still wanted to talk to me, etc.. Then he just stopped calling, and ive been trying my damndest to get over him. (we used to talk multiple times almost every single day). Im guessing you feel as if all the time you had with MM didnt matter to him, even though youre the one who made NC. I think it hurts your feelings to know that he can just be "fine" with not talking to/seeing you ever again, makes you wonder if it all was fake. I feel exactly the same way. I know in my heart we shared something special, and had a great connection, and love was definitely involved-so for him to shut everything down the way he did is confusing and heartbreaking. Even though i am putting 110% into my marriage, there will always be that lingering feeling in my heart that i cant shake. I still think of him often, though i know there can never be anything between us. What makes me miss him the most is that he really understood me, and once you have that, its shattering to lose. I basically lost my best friend, and i can only hope that time heals these wounds. Good luck to you! Find someone who treats you as a priority, not just an option. Oh geez. This is so where I am right now. With the exception MW was the one who pulled the NC thing, but NEVER said why. LOL Talk about hurt and heartbroken. As much as I try to hate her for what she did, I can't. Too make matters worse, I still hear her words of "I do want to talk to you, I just can't right now. Therapist said so." When there is no courage to say 'It's over... I need to focus on xxxx' well, it just sux. Link to post Share on other sites
Love is Tragic Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Completely.. MM doesnt have the therapist issue, but wifey is very manipulative and keeps him on an extremely tight leash. Doesnt want to lose the kids and everything else, so i guess thats his reason. I too wish i could hate him and just cuss him out everyday, but the connection was too strong to downgrade. I just wish he had the guts to call and tell me its absolutely over and go NC from there. As much as i love my H, i cant help but think about whats going on in MM's head, and how he can pretty much forget about me. Its the friendship i miss the most. I just want him to be happy, i wish he knew how to be happy. Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Lonelybird, How can you state this de facto? Are you in OP's shoes? Are you talking from first hand experience? And even if you are, it doesn't necessarily mean that it applies to everyone, wouldn't you agree? All dogmatic religious propaganda aside, stop and think about it! Marlena, Lonley Bird does not have the facts only what she preaches and what is preached to her. Posh loves herself and is a great person, reguardless of if the man is married or not breaking up is difficult! Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 God answers prayers, and I saw God helped me in such a supernature way, so just wanted to share I wonder why you don't want to see other people get saved and get blessings from God? Oh, God answers prayers not because we are perfect, but because we believe in God and his power. we are saved not because we are righteous, but because God has mercy on us. Jesus said he came for sinners. Posh, did you invite Lord enter your heart? if so he will send Holy Spirit to us, it is totally amazing experience than just sitting there listen what priest have to say. Holy Spirit stay with us, give us advise, perform miracles, heal diseases, even comfort us, I never know everyone loves me like Lord did Oh, well, I am going to pray and ask God for more miracles God can not solve all the problems in the world, although for some belief is an uplifting experience. Weather or not Posh Princess has opened up her heard to the "Lord" is her business, not to be shoved down her throat! Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 God answers prayers, and I saw God helped me in such a supernature way, so just wanted to share I wonder why you don't want to see other people get saved and get blessings from God? Oh, God answers prayers not because we are perfect, but because we believe in God and his power. we are saved not because we are righteous, but because God has mercy on us. Jesus said he came for sinners. Posh, did you invite Lord enter your heart? if so he will send Holy Spirit to us, it is totally amazing experience than just sitting there listen what priest have to say. Holy Spirit stay with us, give us advise, perform miracles, heal diseases, even comfort us, I never know everyone loves me like Lord did Oh, well, I am going to pray and ask God for more miracles Oh for goodness sake, this is exactly what I mean. This kind of post is totally inappropriate and disrespectful. Posh is NOT asking to be preached to, and I think you are overstepping the mark LonelyBird. As I have said before, as an atheist, i would find this kind of advice, however well intentioned, rude and disrespectful of my beliefs. I DIDN'T let the lord into my heart, and I was in posh's shoes.... and miracle upon miracles, I recovered, and got over the exMM, AND founf another wonderful man.... ALL BY MYSELF. My BF loves me, and his love is wonderful. I wish you would accept that "miracles" happen to people who don't believe. Or are you jealous, and refusing to accept that? Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Oh for goodness sake, this is exactly what I mean. This kind of post is totally inappropriate and disrespectful. Posh is NOT asking to be preached to, and I think you are overstepping the mark LonelyBird. I agree!! A person who is not of the sames beliefs will look at preaching as water off a ducks back! It serves no purpose! Glad to hear another with the same POV. I know I have been trying to say it forever in a day!:bunny: Link to post Share on other sites
lovernotafighter Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Ugh! did I just walk into a thread about GOD? I'll come back right after I get my Paris Hilton's conversion to Christianity 'it's so hot' special edition Bible out (pp sorries your thread got jacked by a bible thumper xoxox) Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Ugh! did I just walk into a thread about GOD? I'll come back right after I get my Paris Hilton's conversion to Christianity 'it's so hot' special edition Bible out (pp sorries your thread got jacked by a bible thumper xoxox) LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OMG! Where on earth, if it is the earth plain, do you come up with this stuff! Honestly LNF, I cannot take anymore! No need for ab work-out with you around, I get plenty of that with you!!!! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO:lmao::lmao: Link to post Share on other sites
lovernotafighter Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OMG! Where on earth, if it is the earth plain, do you come up with this stuff! Honestly LNF, I cannot take anymore! No need for ab work-out with you around, I get plenty of that with you!!!! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO:lmao::lmao: oh my god RC I didn't make this up!! thats whats even funnier! this year the gold, silver, bronze, and first runner-up prize for the Sunday School labor-day essay contest ("How the estate tax persecutes America's hard-working heirs") will be this $270 hot pink calfskin Bible it was a stunner to me!! Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 oh my god RC I didn't make this up!! thats whats even funnier! it was a stunner to me!! Well I stand to be corrected LNF..... OMG! And; now all this has brought me is to my knees! HELP! DEPENDS! DEPENDS..HURRY!!!! :lmao::lmao: Link to post Share on other sites
lovernotafighter Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Well I stand to be corrected LNF..... OMG! And; now all this has brought me is to my knees! HELP! DEPENDS! DEPENDS..HURRY!!!! :lmao::lmao: oh wait theres more!! Manties, words fail me. I am utterly speechless ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Lord in Heaven, please send your wrath down ASAP on this place and the people behind this atrocity! http://www.manties.net/ I'm not going to post any images, it's too disgusting. Men, we cannot sit by and allow this sort of thing to happen. __________________ Romans 1:20-22: “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse...professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.” Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 oh wait theres more!! Manties, words fail me. I am utterly speechless ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Lord in Heaven, please send your wrath down ASAP on this place and the people behind this atrocity! http://www.manties.net/ I'm not going to post any images, it's too disgusting. Men, we cannot sit by and allow this sort of thing to happen. __________________ Romans 1:20-22: “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse...professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.” Never mind! Where's the Depends! This is killing me! STOP YOURSELF! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO This world is a mess! Link to post Share on other sites
IWALH Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I think it's really sad that this has turned into a Christianity bashing post. LonelyBird was just expressing her views on the subject. She is expressing her right to freedom of speech, regardless of what kind of forum this is. Those are her beliefs and she is giving advice based on those beliefs. The OP can choose to take it or leave it. I think all religions deserve respect. I understand that she didn't go about expressing it in the best way, but it is HER opinion, her feelings. I don't want to stir up anymore trouble around here.... I just wish people would learn to respect other's religions. Everyone should be able to express what they feel and shouldn't feel like they are being chastised for doing so. Maybe it seems like that is what LonelyBird was doing, but I don't that was her intention. I just think english isn't her native language and she doesn't know how to express things as well as others. Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I think it's really sad that this has turned into a Christianity bashing post. LonelyBird was just expressing her views on the subject. She is expressing her right to freedom of speech, regardless of what kind of forum this is. Those are her beliefs and she is giving advice based on those beliefs. The OP can choose to take it or leave it. I think all religions deserve respect. I understand that she didn't go about expressing it in the best way, but it is HER opinion, her feelings. I don't want to stir up anymore trouble around here.... I just wish people would learn to respect other's religions. Everyone should be able to express what they feel and shouldn't feel like they are being chastised for doing so. Maybe it seems like that is what LonelyBird was doing, but I don't that was her intention. I just think english isn't her native language and she doesn't know how to express things as well as others. I get why LB expressed her views and I do respect people of different faith and religion, but we are talking about an OW forum here that has no room where following any type of commandments are concerned. There is a spiritual forum for those comments. When someone is of a particular faith, they could very well ask the poster to join them there. Reality is, everyone has their own reasons for doing what they do and faith has nothing to do with any of it! Link to post Share on other sites
pricillia Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 I think it's really sad that this has turned into a Christianity bashing post. LonelyBird was just expressing her views on the subject. She is expressing her right to freedom of speech, regardless of what kind of forum this is. Those are her beliefs and she is giving advice based on those beliefs. The OP can choose to take it or leave it. I think all religions deserve respect. I understand that she didn't go about expressing it in the best way, but it is HER opinion, her feelings. I don't want to stir up anymore trouble around here.... I just wish people would learn to respect other's religions. Everyone should be able to express what they feel and shouldn't feel like they are being chastised for doing so. Maybe it seems like that is what LonelyBird was doing, but I don't that was her intention. I just think english isn't her native language and she doesn't know how to express things as well as others. IWALH, I agree that we should not make fun of another's religion, if that is what she believes then great we could all believe in GOD to different degrees or not but that is a choice for each of us to decide. I think the reason why LB is getting a hard time is because she in all her faith has pushed her beliefs on others who just want some sound advice, not that believing in God is not sound, it is just that not everyone can be like her. Posh is a OW like yourself, and as I have said before breaking up is difficult regardless if you are a OW or in any kind of relationship, are we telling those women and men that are not OW or OM to go find GOD, no we are not, do you see what I mean? Link to post Share on other sites
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