Blunt honesty?

[BlueSoul]

Before I make a thread I just want to clear some accusations, I'm a male teenager encase you think that I'm a girl judging by my username.

 

Anyway, so I was talking to my mom's friend at breakfast yesterday during family camp and asked when she will be coming back home (my previous house) from helping her sister's take away (due to a lack of staff). She said for a while longer until a staff is applied, and said that she's happy staying with her sister (and family). After a few seconds of conversation she then said that if she had a choice in living with her sister (and family) or to stay at my old place working with her brother and a staff in a take away, she said that she would stay with her sister, because she won't have to miss her sister and family as much and that they make her happy and she won't have to do house-work such as cleaning the toilet.

 

I was kind of puzzled if whether ,deliberately or not, said those things bluntly and knew how I would of felt and react to the testimony.

 

What do you guys think?

 

This thread may sound vague, but reply and I will try and clear the specifics.

[Trialbyfire]

I'm going to be bluntly honest. I don't understand the significance of any of it. Could you provide your concerns, feelings, interests, instead of a few sentences of your conversation?

 

Maybe I'm the only one that doesn't understand the point to this thread.

[Lizzie60]

I don't know the whole story but from what I read.. I don't think she's blunt... I think she's honest...she prefers to remain with her sister... what's wrong with that?

[Star Gazer]

I'm going to be bluntly honest. I don't understand the significance of any of it. Could you provide your concerns, feelings, interests, instead of a few sentences of your conversation?

 

Maybe I'm the only one that doesn't understand the point to this thread.

 

No, you're not the only one. I don't understand it either.

[BlueSoul]

I'm not suprised. I knew my thread was vague anyway, but I wanted to post this as soon as possible.

 

I don't have a problem with her position, but that's not the whole point of the thread.

 

There have been a couple of ups and downs though. 2-3 years back it was all good, but afterwards it turned into common ignorance and unthoughtfulness. It wasn't a big issue in general, but it was more like betrayal (partly).

 

Do you want me to talk about how different things were 2-3 years back, and, from my theory, how things got choked up?

[Trialbyfire]

Bluesoul, if you want real input into whatever your problem or issues are, you'll have to be clear about the situation.

 

Here's an example of a lack of clarity:

 

My friend said that the sky is blue. Later he said that the grass is green.

 

What are your thoughts about it? Is he being bluntly honest?

[BlueSoul]

Bluesoul, if you want real input into whatever your problem or issues are, you'll have to be clear about the situation.

 

Here's an example of a lack of clarity:

 

My friend said that the sky is blue. Later he said that the grass is green.

 

What are your thoughts about it? Is he being bluntly honest?

 

Did you even read my first post?

 

It's complicated to explain all of my thoughts and feelings about this, I mean this thread does relate to my other storical issues, and takes time to put the right words together, you know.

 

May I ask that I talk about this a fragment at a time? Just so makes this easier to understand.

[Trialbyfire]

Did you even read my first post?

 

It's complicated to explain all of my thoughts and feelings about this, I mean this thread does relate to my other storical issues, and takes time to put the right words together, you know.

 

May I ask that I talk about this a fragment at a time? Just so makes this easier to understand.

How else do you suppose I came up with my analogy? Both make the same amount of sense to me.

 

Of course you can talk about it a pointless fragment at a time...

[Kamille]

I like charades.

 

Blue, are you saying that a friend of your mom might have insinuated that your mom would rather stay with her sister then move back home with you?

[BlueSoul]

I like charades.

 

Blue, are you saying that a friend of your mom might have insinuated that your mom would rather stay with her sister then move back home with you?

 

No, this had nothing to do with my parents. The purpose of the thread was to find out whether or not the issue I've just discussed from my first post was blunt. Since that it was so vague and complicated to understand, I might aswell tell you the hidden meaning of it - telling you, once at a time to make it understandable, how different things were and how the course of that changed. So stay tuned....

[Enema]

This thread gave me a migraine.

 

I want my money back.

[JCD]

I think he was abducted by aliens

[BlueSoul]

Before I make a comment I just want everybody who is reading this thread take it seriously and not as a joke, and please no spamming.

 

Anyway, so I'm going to tell you about the past and onwards in numbered parts. I can't type it all down in one comment so take it once at a time. Here goes:

 

Part 1: 4 years ago

I was late 13 when me and my parents were going to move to a new house 5 minutes (car drive) away from my first; I moved either in october or november.

 

I think while I was still at school that the people (the person I first mentioned, her brother and a friend) came by to look at the house (which is a take away) and say hi to my parents; which was how my parents know them and became really good friends.

 

Some few days later after moving all of our possessions to our new home - and the new residents that moved into our previous house - my parents decided to drop by at their's to say hi. It was the evening and I was in the car at the time because I didn't know who the people were. Couple of seconds later, Mary (I'm going to call her that as a codename) came out of the front door and opened the car door from my side and given me a bagful of special orders before she said hi.

 

Day after day after getting picked up from school, we always stop by at the take away to say hi and have a chat; I mostly stayed in the car, but every time I wait for my parents to come back Mary comes out out of the front door to say hi to me: utterly she was very nice. I think afterwards when we came back home when I was walking up the steps my mom called me and told me about them; I don't specifically remember if my mom mentioned Mary's name, I but think she said, at the end of our short conversation, "Mary really likes you." I guessed by thinking about it the love began.

 

Part 2 coming up, saty tuned....

[BlueSoul]

Before I make a comment I just want everybody who is reading this thread take it seriously and not as a joke, and please no spamming.

 

Anyway, so I'm going to tell you about the past and onwards in numbered parts. I can't type it all down in one comment so take it once at a time. Here goes:

 

Part 1: 4 years ago

I was late 13 when me and my parents were going to move to a new house 5 minutes (car drive) away from my first; I moved either in october or november.

 

I think while I was still at school that the people (the person I first mentioned, her brother and a friend) came by to look at the house (which is a take away) and say hi to my parents; which was how my parents know them and became really good friends.

 

Some few days later after moving all of our possessions to our new home - and the new residents that moved into our previous house - my parents decided to drop by at their's to say hi. It was the evening and I was in the car at the time because I didn't know who the people were. Couple of seconds later, Mary (I'm going to call her that as a codename) came out of the front door and opened the car door from my side and given me a bagful of special orders before she said hi.

 

Day after day after getting picked up from school, we always stop by at the take away to say hi and have a chat; I mostly stayed in the car, but every time I wait for my parents to come back Mary comes out out of the front door to say hi to me: utterly she was very nice. I think afterwards when we came back home when I was walking up the steps my mom called me and told me about them; I don't specifically remember if my mom mentioned Mary's name, I but think she said, at the end of our short conversation, "Mary really likes you." I guessed by thinking about it the love began.

 

Part 2 coming up, saty tuned....

[huh]

How old are you? How old is "Mary"?

[BlueSoul]

How old are you? How old is "Mary"?

 

I'm mid-17. I don't really want to specify her age, but I can say between 30-40 years. Why are you asking this?

[huh]

Because you said, "the love began". Which can mean a lot of different things. If you were close in age, it would be a different situation than an adult and a teenager. Especially if you weren't even quite 14 when "the love began."

 

So what exactly did you mean by the love began? Did you have a crush on her? She on you? Mutual? Did either of you act on it? To what extent?

 

Mary may really like staying with her sister. The living situation sounds better. The less to clean the better! Or maybe she realized (through her own thoughts or comments of people around her, such as your mom, that the situation between you 2 (if there was one) wasn't appropriate. And she's distancing herself.

[BlueSoul]

Because you said, "the love began". Which can mean a lot of different things. If you were close in age, it would be a different situation than an adult and a teenager. Especially if you weren't even quite 14 when "the love began."

 

So what exactly did you mean by the love began? Did you have a crush on her? She on you? Mutual? Did either of you act on it? To what extent?

 

Mary may really like staying with her sister. The living situation sounds better. The less to clean the better! Or maybe she realized (through her own thoughts or comments of people around her, such as your mom, that the situation between you 2 (if there was one) wasn't appropriate. And she's distancing herself.

 

Well I have to admit I was vague when I mentioned love. To be exact I was specifying friendship love, though our specific friendship was not conventional but (from my perspective) she was kinda treating it like a family thing (it's hard to talk about this into words but you get what I mean).

 

You talked about the last paragraph too soon, because you don't know how the course of our family-like friendship began to change, and I've just started talking about part 1.

[BlueSoul]

Part 2: 3 years ago

So the year was 2004 and I just turned 14.

 

So Mary and the other two people (a brother and a friend) were set with their new home and were new to the community when they then went to my church for the first time. Sometimes my parents stop by at her's to pick her up for church, because sometimes her brother couldn't manage to take her there himself (by some unknown reason). Mostly I was quiet because I had nothing to say (and it's not suprising that young teenagers don't contribute in conversations in this specific situation). One specific time when my dad had to stopp at the petrol/gas station my mom and Mary had a chat about something. At that moment my mom said something which made Mary turn toward me and gently placed her hand onto my face (under my jaw to be specific) and kindly grasped. By that I guess that was to show her concern and respect.

 

Whenever Mary sees me in church she always said hello to me. At one very specific moment when I was just outside the sports hall (for refreshments) she grabbed my hand with both of her's and said "Are you hungry?" or "You hungry?"

 

At that year (I think) I usually stayed in the car and wait for my parents, but for once my parents made me go with them, and so I did. It was actually the first time I went inside the building since I moved house. Anyways, the moment when she caught glimpse of me she softly went "waaah" and then happily, with a smile, came up to me, placed her arm around my shoulders and said "How are you, you been busy?"

 

It was just passed summer and my parents were finally self-employed with their newly opened cafe, and I always had to go and help whenever I had a week or so off school. Every tuesday she always stopped by at the cafe for lunch before going to church for special service. She always sat in the same table as me when having lunch. I suppose that's where we started talking in conversations.

 

Part 3 coming up, so please stay tuned. This is where things got wrong.

[BlueSoul]

Part 3:

So all was good, you know, I felt so much love and respect and significant and kind of special as a friend. But until all of that began to slowly disappear.

 

To be honest, I don't know how or why things started to go all different. As far as I could remember of how it began, it was the time when my parents couldn't make it into church that they had to phone call Mary and the other to pick me up to church instead, and so I got picked up. I didn't really talk much though during the travel, but I guess sticking with quiet people can get you to feel frustrated and awkward. So I guess Mary has been feeling that way for some time and the level of love and respect began to decrease, but this wasn't obvious until the end of church.

 

What happened was that I was just standing just outside the sports hall waiting for Steve (Mary's brother's codename) to come and fetch me and drive me home (Mary didn't come with us because she often stayed at her sister's place every sunday evening). I think that Steve was behind me at that time when he was ready. Then I just briefly turned my head towards the sports hall just looking and by accident I caught sight of Mary sitting on the top edge of the table waiting. She turned her head and saw me then almost immediately said "What are you waiting for? Aren't you going away?!" At that moment I felt as if my heart exploded in pain (I wasn't sure if she was offensive and/or blunt at the time, and even today I'm still not sure).

 

So, her ignorance and neglectance began to show and it was kind of frustrating because before it wasn't like that. Even when I wait in the car she stopped coming out, but a mere wave when we caught glimpse of each other.

 

Some few times later, I noticed her new admiration which was one of her nephews' close friends (who was 19-20 at the time). Their relationship was so agreeablely established. It was all such a different view and everything just went so fast.

 

Part 4 coming up, so please don't stop reading this thread.

[Zona76]

My friend,

You are too dramitic. You're writing a story that may possibly be a very good book.

Start with the main point of the matter then go into areas of detail. You like this girl and she's friendly with you in church but not in school..

Sorry if I offend but we don't need to know details of the conversations.

How many "parts" to this story is there? And when do we discover what the problem is?

[BlueSoul]

My friend,

You are too dramitic. You're writing a story that may possibly be a very good book.

Start with the main point of the matter then go into areas of detail. You like this girl and she's friendly with you in church but not in school..

Sorry if I offend but we don't need to know details of the conversations.

How many "parts" to this story is there? And when do we discover what the problem is?

 

5 or less (promise).

 

She's not a student, she's a very good friend of my parent's. It has nothing to do with school, etc.

 

You'll know the problem once I've typed down the last part and end with a general conclusion.

 

I think you should read the last couple of comments carefully, so that you won't get the wrong information.

[Zona76]

My guess is you are a TROLL

If there were a "problem" you would be asking for a solution. But you refuse to state your problem. Are you just wanting to gain points here?

Tell us the stupid problem or crawl baclk in your box. We don't have the time for silly games.

Sorry Bud but you've lost us

[BlueSoul]

My guess is you are a TROLL

If there were a "problem" you would be asking for a solution. But you refuse to state your problem. Are you just wanting to gain points here?

Tell us the stupid problem or crawl baclk in your box. We don't have the time for silly games.

Sorry Bud but you've lost us

 

It's not that I'm refusing to tell you about the problem (and I don't want credit), I thought maybe I'd tell you about the situations that I've been through before this to tell you about the whole course of the relation. If I just alternatively tell you the problem and ask for a solution then you're going to start asking why it happened and such, and you'd wouldn't fully understand the whole story. And my story to this is long so you better gather up some points from each part I've typed.

 

I suggest you read the parts carefully and atleast try and picture them in your own state of mind, and, if you can to the best of your ability, put yourself into the narrator's shoes (do you get me).

[reboot]

I've been thinking troll since almost the first post...