woe_is_me Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 single gal meets MM and becomes OW... H/mm falls in love and subsequently divorces...hasn't seen his children since he filed for divorce...approx 4 yrs ago now.. ow marries h/mm after the divorce ... both professinals.. shotgun wedding however..because she's now pregnant with her first child.. to him.. and he still hasn't seen his other children.. fast forward..child is approx. 18 months old now.. ex wife has taken xH to family court...he doesn't only owe debts to the xW (coz everyone is of course wondering why xW is out for blood...) he owes debts to the tune of more than OW (who became 2nd wife) could ever have imagined... I can't go into great detail but after almost collapsing..this is the OW/2nd wife.. due to the verdict (more than once - she put up a fight)..shes lost a property ($200 000) that was hers.. because whats hers is now his due to their 'marriage' and her $20 000 car is also possibly being reposessed... just some food for thought Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 What a piece of crap that MM/H is. Also, what kind of woman wants a man who makes no effort to see his kids, and further, would want to have a child with this sorry excuse for a man? Ick. What a guy. Oh well, at least they have each other. Afterall, love conquers all. Link to post Share on other sites
Author woe_is_me Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 What a piece of crap that MM/H is. Also, what kind of woman wants a man who makes no effort to see his kids, and further, would want to have a child with this sorry excuse for a man? Ick. What a guy. Oh well, at least they have each other. Afterall, love conquers all. I think he made effort but his xW wouldn't let him and as for her ..the 2nd wife .. i don't really know her and um i don't really like her...so i don't really care either... he seemed strange...the xH..and she seemed to think a fairy tale wedding would solve everything....as if..her words were ( to the person i know..and god i hope they dont come to this site) were..he's a conman Link to post Share on other sites
Impudent Oyster Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 She did know he was a liar though, so it couldn't have come as a total surprise. She knew what she married. Link to post Share on other sites
Author woe_is_me Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 she married someone that was divorced now she's like a lioness protecting her cub ..that's what its come to ..he's ruined her financially... she sits surrounded by documents night after night trying to make sense of it all and salvage somethng...how friggin scary..and he probably has another child he won't see... Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I think he made effort but his xW wouldn't let him I dont think thats legally possible anywhere... unless he is some kind of abusive! If he wants to see his children he has rights. The guy was just a loser and didnt want to! Link to post Share on other sites
Lizzie60 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 single gal meets MM and becomes OW... H/mm falls in love and subsequently divorces...hasn't seen his children since he filed for divorce...approx 4 yrs ago now.. ow marries h/mm after the divorce ... both professinals.. shotgun wedding however..because she's now pregnant with her first child.. to him.. and he still hasn't seen his other children.. fast forward..child is approx. 18 months old now.. ex wife has taken xH to family court...he doesn't only owe debts to the xW (coz everyone is of course wondering why xW is out for blood...) he owes debts to the tune of more than OW (who became 2nd wife) could ever have imagined... I can't go into great detail but after almost collapsing..this is the OW/2nd wife.. due to the verdict (more than once - she put up a fight)..shes lost a property ($200 000) that was hers.. because whats hers is now his due to their 'marriage' and her $20 000 car is also possibly being reposessed... just some food for thought I guess they deserve each other.. She married a guy who didn't take his responsibilities (child support) and not seeing his own children... what a jerk! I have no sympathy for people like that...sorry... they match! Link to post Share on other sites
Author woe_is_me Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 I dont think thats legally possible anywhere... unless he is some kind of abusive! If he wants to see his children he has rights. The guy was just a loser and didnt want to! I won't even try and guess at the custody laws here i have no idea .. i can't believe she's almost lost her real estate because of him .. Link to post Share on other sites
Author woe_is_me Posted September 12, 2007 Author Share Posted September 12, 2007 I guess they deserve each other.. She married a guy who didn't take his responsibilities (child support) and not seeing his own children... what a jerk! I have no sympathy for people like that...sorry... they match! funny u say that lizzie i actually met her a couple of yrs ago while out shopping .. i was with the person i know of her through (my xH)..and she full looked me up and down and i just thought ...pfffft.... she does a lot of things i don't agree with anyway... for someone thats in the education system her recreational habits are appalling...along with the guy she married..they're supposed to be professionals..ironic... btw .. she can't file for divorce quick enough i think shes realised he's less than even she deserves..doh! Link to post Share on other sites
silktricks Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I can't go into great detail but after almost collapsing..this is the OW/2nd wife.. due to the verdict (more than once - she put up a fight)..shes lost a property ($200 000) that was hers.. because whats hers is now his due to their 'marriage' and her $20 000 car is also possibly being reposessed... just some food for thought I don't know what state you live in, but in the state I live in, this isn't possible. Although the child support payments would be increased by the 2nd wife's income, property she owned prior to her marriage to the man could not be taken to pay debts he incurred to his former wife for child support he owed prior to his 2nd marriage. Link to post Share on other sites
TogetherForever Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm going to suggest that my s/o never divorces. I will not give her the chance to take what I've got. TF Link to post Share on other sites
Lizzie60 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I'm going to suggest that my s/o never divorces. I will not give her the chance to take what I've got. TF good idea! Link to post Share on other sites
annabelle75 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I don't know what state you live in, but in the state I live in, this isn't possible. Although the child support payments would be increased by the 2nd wife's income, property she owned prior to her marriage to the man could not be taken to pay debts he incurred to his former wife for child support he owed prior to his 2nd marriage. Exactly. I am thinking the same thing. Legally the XW has no claim on the 2nd W's property. Only an increase in child support would occur if the 2nd W's income greatly increased the XH's financial status. The only way this story rings true is if the courts made a judgment against the XH and the 2nd W had to sell her property to help him pay off his debt. This in conciveable, but the courts would not go after the 2nd W to pay off debts from her H's first marriage. Honestly, I don't think this story really has anything to do with affairs or the debts have anything to do with the 2nd W formerly being an OW. When I married my XH, he had all sorts of bad debt he hid from me and he had never been married before. I had to pay it all off inorder to fix his credit so we could buy a house. This is more of a cautionary tale to make sure you know some one's financial issues before you get married. Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Exactly. I am thinking the same thing. Legally the XW has no claim on the 2nd W's property. Only an increase in child support would occur if the 2nd W's income greatly increased the XH's financial status. The only way this story rings true is if the courts made a judgment against the XH and the 2nd W had to sell her property to help him pay off his debt. This in conciveable, but the courts would not go after the 2nd W to pay off debts from her H's first marriage. Honestly, I don't think this story really has anything to do with affairs or the debts have anything to do with the 2nd W formerly being an OW. When I married my XH, he had all sorts of bad debt he hid from me and he had never been married before. I had to pay it all off inorder to fix his credit so we could buy a house. This is more of a cautionary tale to make sure you know some one's financial issues before you get married. Can anyone say "Co-habitation Agreement" or "Pre-nup". Link to post Share on other sites
TogetherForever Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 CO-HABITATION AGREEMENT. Will it have to be put on paper & legalized? Great idea RC!! TF Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 CO-HABITATION AGREEMENT. Will it have to be put on paper & legalized? Great idea RC!! TF Yes. The paperwork is drawn up legally. I have first hand experience, because I have done it! Link to post Share on other sites
TogetherForever Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Yes. The paperwork is drawn up legally. I have first hand experience, because I have done it! Can it be done if he is still married? Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Can it be done if he is still married? I don't believe it would be necessary in the case where someone is still married and living with another person. I may be wrong, but I don't think someone is entitled to another person's assets without a legal divorce. Link to post Share on other sites
annabelle75 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I don't believe it would be necessary in the case where someone is still married and living with another person. I may be wrong, but I don't think someone is entitled to another person's assets without a legal divorce. Yes. As long as he his married to some one else, he has no claim on her assets. It eouldn't be necessary. Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Yes. As long as he his married to some one else, he has no claim on her assets. It eouldn't be necessary. I thought so, thanks hun! If someone was married and living with another would that not fall into the category of bigomy in terms of nil and void? Link to post Share on other sites
TogetherForever Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I don't believe it would be necessary in the case where someone is still married and living with another person. I may be wrong, but I don't think someone is entitled to another person's assets without a legal divorce. Thanks for the info RC! I will leave our relationship as is. I like it this way. TF Link to post Share on other sites
TogetherForever Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 I thought so, thanks hun! If someone was married and living with another would that not fall into the category of bigomy in terms of nil and void? Would that mean that his marriage is nil & void? Link to post Share on other sites
RealityCheck Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Would that mean that his marriage is nil & void? No. Absolutely not. Only the entitlement to another person's assets. A person is married until the Divorce is finalized legally. Link to post Share on other sites
herenow Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Here is another warning to OW who get gifts and large amounts of money from a MM. There was a law suit not to long ago where a MM died and the widow sued the OW for all the money her H spent during their affair. The courts awarded the BW the money based on the fact that the MM use marital funds to spend on his OW without approval from his wife. Any time a MM spends money on an OW, he is using funds that are legally shared with his wife. If a BW really wanted to get nasty, she could have a strong case against an OW who has knowingly accepted gifts and money from a MM. Link to post Share on other sites
Lizzie60 Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Here is another warning to OW who get gifts and large amounts of money from a MM. There was a law suit not to long ago where a MM died and the widow sued the OW for all the money her H spent during their affair. The courts awarded the BW the money based on the fact that the MM use marital funds to spend on his OW without approval from his wife. Any time a MM spends money on an OW, he is using funds that are legally shared with his wife. If a BW really wanted to get nasty, she could have a strong case against an OW who has knowingly accepted gifts and money from a MM. This is too funny... and how do you think she can prove this... unless the MM leaves 'traces' every where. This is probably one case among millions of cases... LOL almost impossible to prove. There are RARELY strong cases ... trust me. Link to post Share on other sites
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