people judge me coz i take my clothes off for a living. drives me nuts.

[StaringContest]

Emma, I haven't read this thread, but I want to assure you that you can take your clothes off for me anytime, and I won't judge you.

[NYCmitch25]

Emma, I haven't read this thread, but I want to assure you that you can take your clothes off for me anytime, and I won't judge you.

 

For you it's more of a rating system ...

[nittygritty]

You just proved that you dont get it!

 

What do you think it teaches you when others only value you based on your sexuality? Do you think that bieng in this profession provides her control over that?

 

 

I do understand that and agree but Emma has a 3 year old to feed and take care of. Quitting a job that she likes because others don't approve and without another job lined up that is comparable to her current income would not be wise for Emma to do at this time.

 

Emma said she is looking into some personal training and nutrition courses. I hope that she does.

[allina]

I do understand that and agree but Emma has a 3 year old to feed and take care of. Quitting a job that she likes because others don't approve and without another job lined up that is comparable to her current income would not be wise for Emma to do at this time.

 

Emma said she is looking into some personal training and nutrition courses. I hope that she does.

 

This is true but it doesn't address the bigger picture.

[nittygritty]

This is true but it doesn't address the bigger picture.

 

I know and I agree with your post about it being a Mom's responsibility to "step it up" but both parents should be held accountable to the child they create.

 

Parental abandonment is legal as long as the courts aren't asked to cover the expenses of the abandoning parent or go try to collect the child support. Some parents need to be out of the kids life because of abuse and many times the other parent does not make non payment of child support an issue for fear of their child's safety if the irresponsible abusive parent decides to exercise visitation.

 

Exercising visitation is not a legal requirement for the non custodial parent, just a right to choose whether or not they want to.

 

Emma has been held accountable, what about the dad?

[allina]

I know and I agree with your post about it being a Mom's responsibility to "step it up" but both parents should be held accountable to the child they create.

 

Parental abandonment is legal as long as the courts aren't asked to cover the expenses of the abandoning parent or go try to collect the child support. Some parents need to be out of the kids life because of abuse and many times the other parent does not make non payment of child support an issue for fear of their child's safety if the irresponsible abusive parent decides to exercise visitation.

 

Exercising visitation is not a legal requirement for the non custodial parent, just a right to choose whether or not they want to.

 

Emma has been held accountable, what about the dad?

 

This is true but not exactly what I meant in relation to my other post and my belief that I would not want my child at a stripper's house. Yes it is the father's responsibility to take part, of course it is. In this situation Emma REFUSES to contact the father or the authorities in order to get child support.

 

As for the bigger picture, here you have a young woman who has a young child by some abusive deadbeat and is dating another verbally abusive clown currently. If I was a mother I would not allow my child in to her home because it shows me that she surrounds herself with bad men and makes poor decisions about who she lets in to her life and her child's life.

 

This is also a woman on government assistance, with no education, who can barely feed herself and her child. Again this shows me that she has made a lot of mistakes and poor choices in her life.

 

I know not ALL strippers make poor choices but lets face it most have deeply troubles pasts. I have no issue with the sex industry/strippers but when I see a stripper I can't help but see a past that put her in her position. This is not something I would discriminate against but it's also not something I would trust a child with. Does that make sense?

[nittygritty]

This is true but not exactly what I meant in relation to my other post and my belief that I would not want my child at a stripper's house. Yes it is the father's responsibility to take part, of course it is. In this situation Emma REFUSES to contact the father or the authorities in order to get child support.

 

As for the bigger picture, here you have a young woman who has a young child by some abusive deadbeat and is dating another verbally abusive clown currently. If I was a mother I would not allow my child in to her home because it shows me that she surrounds herself with bad men and makes poor decisions about who she lets in to her life and her child's life.

 

This is also a woman on government assistance, with no education, who can barely feed herself and her child. Again this shows me that she has made a lot of mistakes and poor choices in her life.

 

I know not ALL strippers make poor choices but lets face it most have deeply troubles pasts. I have no issue with the sex industry/strippers but when I see a stripper I can't help but see a past that put her in her position. This is not something I would discriminate against but it's also not something I would trust a child with. Does that make sense?

 

Yes and I agree. Tbf set me straight about that. Also, I recently read some of Emma's other threads and its troubling.

 

Emma has to decide she wants more for herself and her daughter. Emma's upset and angry post about the negative comments should make Emma realize that she is really not as okay with her job as she says, along with the fact that she would not want her daughter to be a stripper.

 

Emma also said she would help her daughter to work in the best strip clubs if her daughter some day decided to do that rather than wanting her daughter to go behind her back. As a mother, I could never imagine helping my daughter become a stripper under any circumstance. I'm concerned that Emma's boundaries are really, really blurred.

 

In order for Emma's daughter to not make the same mistakes or worse, Emma is going to have to teach her by example and getting out of the industry that she is in has to happen, in order to save her daughter. I hope she does.

[sb129]

People judge others because of their jobs because generally certain kinds of personalities are attracted to certain occupations.

 

I judge people by their jobs, I know I do, I don't want to but I do. Not all jobs mind, but for example I do have a mental aversion to people who work in the City of London (Financial centre). Some of it is probably jealousy that they make so much more money than I do.

 

I envy the fact that Emma must have a fantastic figure to do what she does, yet I don't envy the fact that she may really want to do modelling, but its the kind of industry that is so hard to break into, and one that I know I wouldn't survive five minutes in. I also wouldn't survive 5mins as a stripper- I would punch a punter probably.

 

My occupation is full of geeky idiots, yet i have made some great friends through work..

 

Not really sure what my point is... need to sleep

 

I think the point I

[DarlingDoll]

You are not making a crime. That's honourable.

 

Personally I would be cautious about befriending you though. I would wonder if your drive for money is too much for my liking. But I think similarly of other career choices as well, not only professional stripping.

 

 

At least it's an honest occupation. That's much more than there is to say for let's say corporate shyters, lawyers, practically every business out there etc leaching off of the gov and taxpayers or screwing the public in any other fashion, owning sweatshops in foreign countries and moving jobs overseas etc. Apparently making a gov go for broke and running fast after making a quick buck is the American way. It sickens me that people are too ignorant to know any better than offering respect and idolizing these filthy mongrels as well.

[DarlingDoll]

Women who are higher up on the socio-economic scale might think what she does for a living sounds like a blast.

 

 

Where on earth do you live? I guess in certain areas like yours there are exceptions.

[DarlingDoll]

You just proved that you dont get it!

 

What do you think it teaches you when others only value you based on your sexuality?

 

 

Well then I think your next step would be to ban all tv, magazines, radio, internet, etc. Valued based on sexuality really takes place in many work environments or certain positions, but just not as overtly recognized.

[Cobra_X30]

I do understand that and agree but Emma has a 3 year old to feed and take care of. Quitting a job that she likes because others don't approve and without another job lined up that is comparable to her current income would not be wise for Emma to do at this time.

 

Emma said she is looking into some personal training and nutrition courses. I hope that she does.

 

So stripping is the only way to put food on the table?

 

I thought the UK was one giant welfare system anyway! In the U.S. she wouldnt have to strip to take care of her kids! We have a super strong system to help women in need! I assume they do also.

 

I hope she finds another job too. But dont think that having this in her past wont haunt her well into the future... and her daughter!

[Cobra_X30]

Well then I think your next step would be to ban all tv, magazines, radio, internet, etc. Valued based on sexuality really takes place in many work environments or certain positions, but just not as overtly recognized.

 

By that statement I can see you dont understand what I'm saying!

 

You dont see the inherent difference?

 

Its one thing to see a print ad with a model and say... wow she is pretty! Its completely different to be viewed as a piece of meat! The objectification is much stronger, and there is a complete lack of respect!

 

That make sense?