Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 So, how do we know what is considered pure, based on God's perceptions? Let me guess, the Bible tells you. But...do you do everything the Bible tells you to, verbatim? Or do you interpret what the Bible says or do you believe what your Church leaders interpret what the Bible says? If so, how can you possibly have the arrogance to believe that anyone human can possibly interpret the words of God? My original post with questions. I try to obey Lord. God sent his Holy Spirit to teach us secret of God, help us to understand what Lord said to us and what Bible teaches, again, it nothing to do with me, but everything to do with Holy Spirit and God's power, if you want, you can ask God for Holy Spirit as well , God give us according his mercy Your original avoidance of questions. I think I did No, you avoided my questions. Answer each one of my questions directly. Link to post Share on other sites
underpants Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Devil will guide me to goodness and love and peace Now your talking. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Explain this to me.... Did Jesus go to heaven? yes ............... Link to post Share on other sites
oppath Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 So you also believe in original sin. Where do babies go, when they're miscarried or die in childbirth? Where do those beautiful little flower faces go, if they aren't baptized, and they happen to be murdered by their parents or are hit by a car? Are they also lounging with Gandhi and I, in magma pool #4? Are you sure about that TBF? Gandhi didn't believe Jesus was the son of god, so he was sent to hell. When he got there, Satan said "welcome. You get to choose your eternity" and he pointed to 3 doors. Gandhi walks up to the first door, and all he hears is screaming and moaning behind it. There is a little shutter on the door to look inside; he opens it and inside people are upside down on top of their heads atop a bed of hot coals, their flesh burning. He shuts the shutter. "I think I'll check out door number 2." The same moaning and screaming was coming from door number 2. Gandhi opened the little window and peered inside...and sure enough, people were upside down atop their heads, only they were on ICE, their heads freezing!!!! "An eternity with an ice cream headache? I'll check out door number 3!" Gandhi approaches door number 3, and behind it he hears...pleasant chit chat!!! He gets excited because it looks promising. He opens the little window and what does he see? People standing around, knee deep in EXCREMENT, sipping tea and eating cake, conversing!!! "Well, this doesn't seem so bad. I could get used to the smell of ****, but at least I could sit around having pleasant conversations for eternity." "Satan, I'll take door number 3!" "Very well," said Satan. And he opened the door, and in walks Gandhi. An imp comes and gives him some tea and some cake, and he starts making small talk with some of the people. Satan closes the door. 5 minutes later, a demon comes in with a whip. "All right you sinners. Tea time is over. Back on your heads!!!" Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Devil will guide me to goodness and love and peace? I don't think so Are you arrogant enough to believe that you know the difference between what an omnipotent being is and what an ex-angel is? Link to post Share on other sites
underpants Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 yes ............... He was Jewish and from what I hear pounded in my head by 'true believers' is that is not allowed. So what makes him so special? Who did god sleep with to make Jesus? Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Are you sure about that TBF? Gandhi didn't believe Jesus was the son of god, so he was sent to hell. When he got there, Satan said "welcome. You get to choose your eternity" and he pointed to 3 doors. Gandhi walks up to the first door, and all he hears is screaming and moaning behind it. There is a little shutter on the door to look inside; he opens it and inside people are upside down on top of their heads atop a bed of hot coals, their flesh burning. He shuts the shutter. "I think I'll check out door number 2." The same moaning and screaming was coming from door number 2. Gandhi opened the little window and peered inside...and sure enough, people were upside down atop their heads, only they were on ICE, their heads freezing!!!! "An eternity with an ice cream headache? I'll check out door number 3!" Gandhi approaches door number 3, and behind it he hears...pleasant chit chat!!! He gets excited because it looks promising. He opens the little window and what does he see? People standing around, knee deep in EXCREMENT, sipping tea and eating cake, conversing!!! "Well, this doesn't seem so bad. I could get used to the smell of ****, but at least I could sit around having pleasant conversations for eternity." "Satan, I'll take door number 3!" "Very well," said Satan. And he opened the door, and in walks Gandhi. An imp comes and gives him some tea and some cake, and he starts making small talk with some of the people. Satan closes the door. 5 minutes later, a demon comes in with a whip. "All right you sinners. Tea time is over. Back on your heads!!!" Haha...magma pool #4 for me... Link to post Share on other sites
underpants Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 btw...I would so do Gandi. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 So, how do we know what is considered pure, based on God's perceptions? Let me guess, the Bible tells you. But...do you do everything the Bible tells you to, verbatim? Or do you interpret what the Bible says or do you believe what your Church leaders interpret what the Bible says? If so, how can you possibly have the arrogance to believe that anyone human can possibly interpret the words of God? . you mean "pure"? basically can feel if the heart is pure or not in the spirit who God gave us. Holy Spirit has insight, wisdom and teaches us those things, also Holy Spirit teaches us righteousness of God, if we do wrong things, Holy Spirit can guide us to repentance because he reveals how and where we did wrong and Bible is words of God, has power of God in it. is a success book, is a truth book, the more you embrace it, the more you will get peace and rejoice and quality life Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 you mean "pure"? basically can feel if the heart is pure or not in the spirit who God gave us. Holy Spirit has insight, wisdom and teaches us those things, also Holy Spirit teaches us righteousness of God, if we do wrong things, Holy Spirit can guide us to repentance because he reveals how and where we did wrong How? and Bible is words of God, has power of God in it. is a success book, is a truth book, the more you embrace it, the more you will get peace and rejoice and quality life Once again, how do you know it's true? There's nothing to prove it's truth. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Are you sure about that TBF? Gandhi didn't believe Jesus was the son of god, so he was sent to hell. When he got there, Satan said "welcome. You get to choose your eternity" and he pointed to 3 doors. Gandhi walks up to the first door, and all he hears is screaming and moaning behind it. There is a little shutter on the door to look inside; he opens it and inside people are upside down on top of their heads atop a bed of hot coals, their flesh burning. He shuts the shutter. "I think I'll check out door number 2." The same moaning and screaming was coming from door number 2. Gandhi opened the little window and peered inside...and sure enough, people were upside down atop their heads, only they were on ICE, their heads freezing!!!! "An eternity with an ice cream headache? I'll check out door number 3!" Gandhi approaches door number 3, and behind it he hears...pleasant chit chat!!! He gets excited because it looks promising. He opens the little window and what does he see? People standing around, knee deep in EXCREMENT, sipping tea and eating cake, conversing!!! "Well, this doesn't seem so bad. I could get used to the smell of ****, but at least I could sit around having pleasant conversations for eternity." "Satan, I'll take door number 3!" "Very well," said Satan. And he opened the door, and in walks Gandhi. An imp comes and gives him some tea and some cake, and he starts making small talk with some of the people. Satan closes the door. 5 minutes later, a demon comes in with a whip. "All right you sinners. Tea time is over. Back on your heads!!!" what we think "goodness" isn't same as "what God's goodness", it is a very large gap that nobody can fill except Jesus Christ Link to post Share on other sites
underpants Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 LB, Seriously, are you okay with people who do not share your beliefs? Could you have a friendship, relationship or association with someone who was of a different faith (or no faith) and feel no need to convert them? Can you fully respect them as worthy individuals? I like you. I just don't share your belief system. TBF, how is the magma in pool 4? Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 It's hawt... Link to post Share on other sites
oppath Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Are you arrogant enough to believe that you know the difference between what an omnipotent being is and what an ex-angel is? This is a deep question. I know the counter is that if you accept Christ, you will see the truth and reject Satan, but Satan can surely tempt us in ways that are not all evil. Does Satan only tempt into evil? Satan was not pure evil. Him and God had a tiff...though it does strike me as odd that an all powerful God could possibly create beings that would eventually fight a war against him. Link to post Share on other sites
oppath Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 It's hawt... I'm going to join you, but I'm going to be wearing a Borat swim suit . Hope that doesn't increase the temperature too much! Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 LB, Seriously, are you okay with people who do not share your beliefs? Could you have a friendship, relationship or association with someone who was of a different faith (or no faith) and feel no need to convert them? Can you fully respect them as worthy individuals? I like you. I just don't share your belief system. TBF, how is the magma in pool 4? I am ok with them, just hope they can have peace and rejoice and eternal life thanks for kind words, same here Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 This is a deep question. I know the counter is that if you accept Christ, you will see the truth and reject Satan, but Satan can surely tempt us in ways that are not all evil. Does Satan only tempt into evil? Satan was not pure evil. Him and God had a tiff...though it does strike me as odd that an all powerful God could possibly create beings that would eventually fight a war against him. But of course....He imbued his angels with the freedom to be good or evil... I'm going to join you, but I'm going to be wearing a Borat swim suit . Hope that doesn't increase the temperature too much! Marble bags belong in magma pool #1. I think Satan would approve of them. Link to post Share on other sites
underpants Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 This is a deep question. I know the counter is that if you accept Christ, you will see the truth and reject Satan, but Satan can surely tempt us in ways that are not all evil. Does Satan only tempt into evil? Satan was not pure evil. Him and God had a tiff...though it does strike me as odd that an all powerful God could possibly create beings that would eventually fight a war against him. If you would like to know an omnipotent being ....talk to my ex. As to the question it is sibling rivalry at it's best. Now...who wants a cookie? .....oppath the Borat suit is hellish to be sure. Link to post Share on other sites
oppath Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 But of course....He imbued his angels with the freedom to be good or evil... Marble bags belong in magma pool #1. I think Satan would approve of them. HAHA! Fine. Sit in pool number 4 with Gandhi. I'll sit in pool #1 playing marbles with Marilyn Monroe . Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 HAHA! Fine. Sit in pool number 4 with Gandhi. I'll sit in pool #1 playing marbles with Marilyn Monroe . You go oppath!! She'll love the outfit. Link to post Share on other sites
oppath Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 I have an ex who claims I look a bit like a Kennedy. "Say Chowder!!!" Oh, and if the cocktail waitresses cater some good cakes to my magma pit, I'll be sure to send her your way. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Post a pic and we'll confirm or deny the allegation. I can pass on cake but if she has any scampi done with garlic, butter and white wine, I might be tempted to wander over to magma pool #1, for cocktails. I'll bring Gandhi, to keep the numbers even. Link to post Share on other sites
oppath Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Post a pic and we'll confirm or deny the allegation. I can pass on cake but if she has any scampi done with garlic, butter and white wine, I might be tempted to wander over to magma pool #1, for cocktails. I'll bring Gandhi, to keep the numbers even. Pass on cake? But if you are in hell, you can eat your cake and have it too without consequence! Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 Pass on cake? But if you are in hell, you can eat your cake and have it too without consequence! Well played. Not my style though. When I cleave to one man, I remain true. Link to post Share on other sites
Moai Posted September 22, 2007 Share Posted September 22, 2007 None of you get it. The Holy Spirit tellls me so. Link to post Share on other sites
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