johan Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Pay attention green robot. Direct x has been married a long time. He's not a single man. My mistake. I thought he was pretty offensive on this thread. It's hard to respect a guy who will question another guy's manhood instead of being helpful. Or else silent. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 My mistake. I thought he was pretty offensive on this thread. It's hard to respect a guy who will question another guy's manhood instead of being helpful. Or else silent. Mr. Romance, just like you, is too sensitive. Sheesh, grow a set, will you? I mean really. No one was ACTUALLY questioning his "manhood". We were trying to make a point, some of us were, one he'd do well to try, since his way doesn't seem to be working for him. It was a suggestion to try it a different way. A way that didn't smack of being a doormat and letting his wife walk all over him. Some of us were actually on HIS side. Just because you, a single guy, don't happen to agree with his advice (and mine for that matter) doesn't mean it wasn't helpful. Maybe Mr. Romance will think about it and ponder it later and try it out. Why should those of us who have a different way of seeing things be silent? Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I hope your not referencing me! A wonderful marriage is my highest life goal! No, no, no Cobra. I'm sure the person I was referring to will recognize her or himself. It wasn't you. But you were off-base about Direct. He's never, ever said he wanted his marriage to end or that he didn't like or love his wife. That was nasty stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I don't see a need to take your problems out on me, Touche. You should really try to be nicer. This is something you might be very aware of: even with a real man in the house, some women insist on being small-minded and petty. And it's not a problem if a real man actually vents his frustration elsewhere before dumping all his anger on his wife, like some people thought he should. So what if he came here and dealt with his resentment? He dealt with her face to face later on after he cooled off. And he stood up to a lot of crap here on the thread pretty well, too. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I don't see a need to take your problems out on me, Touche. You should really try to be nicer. I don't have any problems other than PMS and I'd rather take it out on you than my H:p Well you're just being ridiculous, honestly. This is something you might be very aware of: even with a real man in the house, some women insist on being small-minded and petty. And it's not a problem if a real man actually vents his frustration elsewhere before dumping all his anger on his wife, like some people thought he should. So what if he came here and dealt with his resentment? He dealt with her face to face later on after he cooled off. We were trying to help him with a long term solution. Venting on LS every time she pisses him off is nice but it's merely a short term solution. The problem will just fester. He'll grow more resentful until it's aired out for all time. And I'm glad they did talk. Hopefully, the problem is solved but somehow I think it's going to take a little more than one little talk. He has to change his reaction to her nagging for any real change to take place IMO. And he stood up to a lot of crap here on the thread pretty well, too. Stood up to a lot of crap? What crap? At one point he threatened to leave even. (Is that standing up to something? Stomping your feet and saying I'm leaving...no wonder I never post here.) I'm glad he came back but no one gave him crap. Some of us really were trying to help. Why are you taking all of this so personally anyway. We're here for Mr. Romance. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Stood up to a lot of crap? What crap? At one point he threatened to leave even. (Is that standing up to something? Stomping your feet and saying I'm leaving...no wonder I never post here.) I'm glad he came back but no one gave him crap. Some of us really were trying to help. Why are you taking all of this so personally anyway. We're here for Mr. Romance. I'm not taking it personally. I'm expressing my opinion. You're the one posting in all bold text. The "crap" is the inane stuff where people told him to be a man, punch his wife in the mouth, act like John Wayne, etc. instead of offering constructive feedback. He said he'd leave because he was just getting a lot of attacks from strangers with whom he has no relationships instead of constructive advice. He has no attachment here that would make sticking around worthwhile anyway. I'm happy to stand up to it instead of leave though, because I think new people should feel welcome. I think a lot of what people said was rude. People who brought up his sex life with his wife were rude. And those who laughed at those comments were rude. I think it was a lot of low behavior at the expense of a stranger. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 No, no, no Cobra. I'm sure the person I was referring to will recognize her or himself. It wasn't you. But you were off-base about Direct. He's never, ever said he wanted his marriage to end or that he didn't like or love his wife. That was nasty stuff. Nasty? Well, I have a few choice words for you too on this thread. Why? Because it touches a nerve. I've been there done that with this situation. You dont have to be married to suffer a person like that. There are ways to approach a situation that are helpful and there are some that are not. You chose the unhelpful path. Not every woman is you! Bieng a man means taking responsibility and doing the right thing even though sometimes you dont like it. Thats what he did! Too sensetive? If you switched genders on this post... are you sure you would have reacted the same way? Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I'm not taking it personally. I'm expressing my opinion. You're the one posting in all bold text. The bold was just to differentiate from your text..nothing more and nothing less....sheeeshh! The "crap" is the inane stuff where people told him to be a man, punch his wife in the mouth, act like John Wayne, etc. instead of offering constructive feedback. He said he'd leave because he was just getting a lot of attacks from strangers with whom he has no relationships instead of constructive advice. He has no attachment here that would make sticking around worthwhile anyway. People take things to literally. He should have looked at the real message being conveyed. Obviously no one is really condoning violence. Again Sheesh and I'm happy to stand up to it instead of leave though, because I think new people should feel welcome. I think a lot of what people said was rude. People who brought up his sex life with his wife were rude. And those who laughed at those comments were rude. I think it was a lot of low behavior at the expense of a stranger. I don't agree. I understand that some were trying to get him to open up about what's REALLY bothering him. I mean come on, if you're fighting over liquid detergent, then there's really something else bothering one or both of them. Many on here were astute enough to see that and were trying to point that out and get Mr. Romance to open up if he wanted to. He even thanked me at one point for that. You're entitled to think what you want. But why speak for him? You say at the "expense of a stranger." He came back and said it was a good discussion in the end. So maybe you shouldn't speak for him. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I don't agree. I understand that some were trying to get him to open up about what's REALLY bothering him. I mean come on, if you're fighting over liquid detergent, then there's really something else bothering one or both of them. Many on here were astute enough to see that and were trying to point that out and get Mr. Romance to open up if he wanted to. He even thanked me at one point for that. You're entitled to think what you want. But why speak for him? You say at the "expense of a stranger." He came back and said it was a good discussion in the end. So maybe you shouldn't speak for him. He was just trying to get you to shut up. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I don't agree. I understand that some were trying to get him to open up about what's REALLY bothering him. I mean come on, if you're fighting over liquid detergent, then there's really something else bothering one or both of them. Many on here were astute enough to see that and were trying to point that out and get Mr. Romance to open up if he wanted to. He even thanked me at one point for that. You're entitled to think what you want. But why speak for him? You say at the "expense of a stranger." He came back and said it was a good discussion in the end. So maybe you shouldn't speak for him. Johan is right! He just wanted the discussion over! The other stuff that was bothering him was the 100 other times he got critisized at the end of doing positive work. He wasnt a stupid person! Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Nasty? Well, I have a few choice words for you too on this thread. Why? Because it touches a nerve. I've been there done that with this situation. You dont have to be married to suffer a person like that. There are ways to approach a situation that are helpful and there are some that are not. You chose the unhelpful path. Not every woman is you! Bieng a man means taking responsibility and doing the right thing even though sometimes you dont like it. Thats what he did! Too sensetive? If you switched genders on this post... are you sure you would have reacted the same way? Yes, I would have reacted the same way. I advise women all the time to not be doormats too. No difference. Sorry, but I thought I was helpful. You don't have to agree. Doesn't matter at all to me. I strand by everything I said. Being a man means taking responsibility and doing the right thing? Uh yeah...who said it didn't? Thanks for your "choice" words! Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 He was just trying to get you to shut up. Ha ha! Speak for yourself will you? I'm done with this nonsense. You're laughable. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Yes, I would have reacted the same way. I advise women all the time to not be doormats too. No difference. Sorry, but I thought I was helpful. You don't have to agree. Doesn't matter at all to me. I strand by everything I said. Being a man means taking responsibility and doing the right thing? Uh yeah...who said it didn't? Thanks for your "choice" words! Well, I was overly harsh with DirectX, and I dont like apologizing! So I am choosing my words carefully. BTW... if it wasnt true, then it would have rolled off like water from a duck! Nothing is worse than your own words distilled and refined. No, you were anti-helpful. Insulting is what I would call it. I apologize when I am wrong! What do you do? Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Well, I was overly harsh with DirectX, and I dont like apologizing! So I am choosing my words carefully. BTW... if it wasnt true, then it would have rolled off like water from a duck! Nothing is worse than your own words distilled and refined. No, you were anti-helpful. Insulting is what I would call it. I apologize when I am wrong! What do you do? I'm not wrong. Sorry. And no, what you said about Direct was untrue and mean. It doesn't matter if you think it would have rolled off of him if it wasn't true. That's bull. You said something nasty and untrue about his WIFE, dude. I'm done with you too. Two buffoons in one night is two too many. Link to post Share on other sites
Lizzie60 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 this thread got me curious... it is getting very long... When I read your post, you reminded me of a guy I work with... He does almost everything in the house.. take care of the kids.. he's amazing... I think she's lucky.. but IMO, she doesn't see that. She is never satisfied...plus apparently, the other guys joke about him not getting much sex at home.. so I guess he doesn't get much... LOL He once told me that she's in bed every night at 9... He goes to bed at around 11. Some women (and some men) are so 'spoiled' by their spouse that they become 'bored' I suppose and they always expect more... I don't know all your situation, but maybe next time, either snap at her and tell her she can do it herself if she's not happy.. or make a joke out of it... One advice, just be careful that you don't become a 'doormat' she'll have no respect for you and will always expect more and more. Link to post Share on other sites
DazedandConfused66 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I really want to help you Mr. Romantic. So I'd like to give you a FREE copy of my new book. Chapter 7 has several helpful tips on the proper usage of cleansing solutions for today's automatic dishwashers. Really, I think this can save your marriage. It's worked wonders in mine! Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I really want to help you Mr. Romantic. So I'd like to give you a FREE copy of my new book. Chapter 7 has several helpful tips on the proper usage of cleansing solutions for today's automatic dishwashers. Really, I think this can save your marriage. It's worked wonders in mine! Priceless!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Timberlane Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 The soap puts a coating on the pans that ruins them? What unbelievable nonsense. And even if true, duh, don't BUY the HORRIBLE PAN COATING SOAP! Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 The soap puts a coating on the pans that ruins them? What unbelievable nonsense. And even if true, duh, don't BUY the HORRIBLE PAN COATING SOAP! You guys are cracking me up over here. But seriously, with this type of person (the wife I mean) if it weren't HORRIBLE PAN COATING SOAP, it would be something else right? Something equally ridiculous. That's why her critical and unappreciative attitude needs to be nipped in the bud. Link to post Share on other sites
Timberlane Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 You guys are cracking me up over here. But seriously, with this type of person (the wife I mean) if it weren't HORRIBLE PAN COATING SOAP, it would be something else right? Something equally ridiculous. That's why her critical and unappreciative attitude needs to be nipped in the bud. No kidding. An ex of mine tried to maintain that teflon pans couldn't be put in the dish washer. Yeah, they can withstand 400 degree flame and boiling water, but that 100 degree bath in the dishwasher just kills them. People get neurotic about the dumbest things. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 No kidding. An ex of mine tried to maintain that teflon pans couldn't be put in the dish washer. Yeah, they can withstand 400 degree flame and boiling water, but that 100 degree bath in the dishwasher just kills them. People get neurotic about the dumbest things. OMG, my H and I have had that SAME stupid disagreement (with HIM telling me that I can't do that.) He's trained me though and I never, ever do it. I pick my battles. Like I said, he's a little bit OCD about things and I just go along with most of it. It's not worth fighting about or getting upset about. I look at the big picture. He's good to me. We love each other. Every now and then, as I've mentioned, I need to tell him to back off though but it's no big deal. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Actually automatic dishwasher soap will ruin the surface on aluminum pans. Even the hard anodized aluminum can be ruined. So will cooking acidic foods such as tomatoes. And it doesn't take much to do it either. I've done it. It's more a reason to buy different pots and pans than it is to argue in a marriage. If I were Mr. R and wanted to live up to my name, I'd get her some stainless steel cookware. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Yes, nothing spells romance like a new set of pots and pans. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I'd give her a choice. That or a vacuum. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I'd give her a choice. That or a vacuum. What a lucky gal! Link to post Share on other sites
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