milx Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Can we please stay on topic? Let's not get into this best of whoever conversation. Just want to talk about the ways that married partners may or may not talk about their spouses. Please? Ok. Sorry me. I have told you earlier that married woman spoke ill of husband but husband does not put her down at all. I can't say married woman is a bad person because she isn't. I think she is just trying to make me see that it's alright for me to be with her because husband is a jerk but in actual fact is he is not. At all. Unless he is actually a jerk at home. Link to post Share on other sites
Author NoIDidn't Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 Ok. Sorry me. I have told you earlier that married woman spoke ill of husband but husband does not put her down at all. I can't say married woman is a bad person because she isn't. I think she is just trying to make me see that it's alright for me to be with her because husband is a jerk but in actual fact is he is not. At all. Unless he is actually a jerk at home. No prob. Not to excuse her speaking poorly of her H, at all. But as a woman, and you being one too, I bet she feels is more like girlfriend (not sleeping with girlfriend, that is) talk. We women talk about things when together. Men do the same with other men as well. Boy, that is complicated. Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Ok. Sorry me. I have told you earlier that married woman spoke ill of husband but husband does not put her down at all. I can't say married woman is a bad person because she isn't. I think she is just trying to make me see that it's alright for me to be with her because husband is a jerk but in actual fact is he is not. At all. Unless he is actually a jerk at home. Well peple do bring out the worst in people sometimes. If you are with a jerk that doesnt have a track record of being a jerk, well guess what? when you look at the jerk you are looking in the mirror. Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 No prob. Not to excuse her speaking poorly of her H, at all. But as a woman, and you being one too, I bet she feels is more like girlfriend (not sleeping with girlfriend, that is) talk. We women talk about things when together. Men do the same with other men as well. Boy, that is complicated. that's nonsense bad mouthing is bad mouthing and it is not gender specific. I'd like to see what a man thinks of that comment, I don't think he would agree. Link to post Share on other sites
Author NoIDidn't Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 that's nonsense bad mouthing is bad mouthing and it is not gender specific. I'd like to see what a man thinks of that comment, I don't think he would agree. I am sure you that you missed the part where I wrote "not to excuse her speaking poorly about her H, at all". I happen to agree with you the no matter the intent, the feelings of the person being spoken poorly of are what matters here. Link to post Share on other sites
milx Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 No prob. Not to excuse her speaking poorly of her H, at all. But as a woman, and you being one too, I bet she feels is more like girlfriend (not sleeping with girlfriend, that is) talk. We women talk about things when together. Men do the same with other men as well. Boy, that is complicated. I can where you're coming from. I tell you, when we sleep together, we don't talk about anything but us. So yeap, it's like a woman to woman talk when she disses her husband. Can you imagine how hard it is for me to take all the things she said about him knowing that it isn't true at all? I tell you this, if it was things behind closed doors I can understand but to say that he is selfish (which I have not seen that side of him), lazy (again, he is a hardworker - any business man is!), picking his nose in public ( I have NEVER seen him doing that!!) and alot of other things. Ok..... behind closed doors - she said he is bad at making her orgams...... NOT TRUE! Enough said! Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 I am sure you that you missed the part where I wrote "not to excuse her speaking poorly about her H, at all". I happen to agree with you the no matter the intent, the feelings of the person being spoken poorly of are what matters here. oh ok we agree then. Link to post Share on other sites
Author NoIDidn't Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 I can where you're coming from. I tell you, when we sleep together, we don't talk about anything but us. So yeap, it's like a woman to woman talk when she disses her husband. Can you imagine how hard it is for me to take all the things she said about him knowing that it isn't true at all? I tell you this, if it was things behind closed doors I can understand but to say that he is selfish (which I have not seen that side of him), lazy (again, he is a hardworker - any business man is!), picking his nose in public ( I have NEVER seen him doing that!!) and alot of other things. Ok..... behind closed doors - she said he is bad at making her orgams...... NOT TRUE! Enough said! Your situation gives new meaning to this saying: There are three marriages in one. His M. Her M. And the actual M. You know like the classic three sides to every story. His side. Her side. And the Truth. I guess I will respond more on your thread that you start. Yup, this is complicated. Link to post Share on other sites
milx Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Your situation gives new meaning to this saying: There are three marriages in one. His M. Her M. And the actual M. You know like the classic three sides to every story. His side. Her side. And the Truth. I guess I will respond more on your thread that you start. Yup, this is complicated. I haven't heard of that saying but I can see taht it is related. You are welcome to visit my thread any time. Thank you and I am sorry again for jerk-threading your thread. Link to post Share on other sites
bunset Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 No prob. Not to excuse her speaking poorly of her H, at all. But as a woman, and you being one too, I bet she feels is more like girlfriend (not sleeping with girlfriend, that is) talk. We women talk about things when together. Men do the same with other men as well. Boy, that is complicated. Well the old story about women gossiping might be true, huh? No, men do not always talk about what a B their women are to each other. You see it looks bad if a guy puts up with that and doesn't stand up to it. So they save that for sympathetic woman friends. I know a guy who's wife was awful, she'd yell in public, and he NEVER said anything awful about her in private (and neither did we) until she served him papers. Link to post Share on other sites
pythonshoes Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 that's just low, talking ugly about the spouse to the other man/woman. I didn't really have anything to complain about, other than sex life. The W wasn't un-attractive, but when she said no, it started to bother me less and less, until the gal that became OW sat on my lap. I only ever said anything bad about the girlfriends to the buddies when I was slamming down the beers. It's just a bad reflection on you when you complain about the spouse, without actually talking with them about it. Link to post Share on other sites
bluebluesky Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 What kinds of things have you been told about the BS? Did it make you feel bigger than the BS? Did it make you feel sorry for the MP or the BS? I just looked up that BS is supposed to stand for "betrayed spouse". I assume that must refer to the husband or wife of the person having the affair. I'm not sure what a MP is. I did find that this thread was interesting to read. Unfortunately, I really can't add any personal experiences because my boyfriend hasn't been discovered and therefore his wife isn't betrayed. If it gets to the point where he decides to leave her, then I suppose I'll have lots to share. Link to post Share on other sites
reboot Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 my boyfriend hasn't been discovered and therefore his wife isn't betrayedUhmm.... since she doesn't know she hasn't been betrayed? Interesting logic..... Link to post Share on other sites
Author NoIDidn't Posted October 25, 2007 Author Share Posted October 25, 2007 Well the old story about women gossiping might be true, huh? No, men do not always talk about what a B their women are to each other. You see it looks bad if a guy puts up with that and doesn't stand up to it. So they save that for sympathetic woman friends. I know a guy who's wife was awful, she'd yell in public, and he NEVER said anything awful about her in private (and neither did we) until she served him papers. I just meant that men get together and gossip about things too. Not necessarily the W. Sometimes they do, but those times are extremely rare. I agree that they save that for a sympathetic female ear. And sometimes we W's just aren't that sympathetic - especially if its about us. I just looked up that BS is supposed to stand for "betrayed spouse". I assume that must refer to the husband or wife of the person having the affair. I'm not sure what a MP is. I did find that this thread was interesting to read. Unfortunately, I really can't add any personal experiences because my boyfriend hasn't been discovered and therefore his wife isn't betrayed. If it gets to the point where he decides to leave her, then I suppose I'll have lots to share. I don't know if there is a specific thread with the acronyms listed, but I will try to help. Just this once. OW - other woman OM - other man OP - other person MM - married mad MW - married woman MP - married person BS - betrayed spouse WS - wayward spouse BW - betrayed wife BH - betrayed husband OOW - other other woman GA - gambler's anonymous SG - single guy/gal OC - other child CS - child support AIDS - acquired immune deficiency syndrome HTH (hope this helps, LOL) Link to post Share on other sites
jj2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 How would you get a full picture of a M partner unless you get into the same activities with them that the spouse does? We all give our best in a fantasy. I agree. The OW does get to live in fantacy land with the MM. But that's NOT real life or a real relationship. Link to post Share on other sites
jj2007 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Speaking of ditch licking and the lies that men tell their wives how do the betrayed spouses actually start kissing again the same mouth that was ditch licking another person? yuuuuuk nasty Same can go for OW. I wonder how OW feels when she's kissing MM thinking about how many times those lips have touched his W;) Link to post Share on other sites
Havn_a_life Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 I've thought the same thing. While the A is going on, the W is unknowing kissing her WH, who's in turn going to OW... The OW, though, knows full well where MM is going and who he's kissing when he's home, no matter how much he tries to convince OW he sleeps on the couch or lives in the basement. Link to post Share on other sites
White Flower Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 HTH (hope this helps, LOL) LOL! Thanks for these--we are grateful. Link to post Share on other sites
GreenEyedLady Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Same can go for OW. I wonder how OW feels when she's kissing MM thinking about how many times those lips have touched his W;) Hmmm....I always wonder why it is that BS's protest so much...I know some MM are cake eaters and do still have sex etc. with their W's...but there's plenty of sexless M's too and roommate-type arrangements... And as for a man's lips touching another woman's...If you're dating a single guy, you can only guess how many other women's lips he's kissed, so what's the difference? Go ahead and try and cast doubt... Some of us have been around long enough to know better...and we actually know our partners well and have developed a good R with them... Link to post Share on other sites
White Flower Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Hmmm....I always wonder why it is that BS's protest so much...I know some MM are cake eaters and do still have sex etc. with their W's...but there's plenty of sexless M's too and roommate-type arrangements... In this case, IMO, the W of the MM should be grateful that he is getting to use his parts still when she is unable or unwilling. She still has HIM, the house, the money, the retirement package, family together, etc., etc. I know that if I could no longer provide sex for my H, I would not blame him for turning elsewhere especially if he did not turn my world upside down by a D. And as for a man's lips touching another woman's...If you're dating a single guy, you can only guess how many other women's lips he's kissed, so what's the difference? Good point. And a MM, especially an older one, is more likely to be careful with germs and viruses. He doesn't want to bring that home. This is the kind of man who is considerate of both W in his life, as twisted as some viewers will take that. Link to post Share on other sites
luvmy2ns Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 This is the kind of man who is considerate of both W in his life' date=' as twisted as some viewers will take that.[/b'] Twisted is right. And I don't feel it's a matter of viewpoint. Someone is being cheated on, and the cheater is being considerate to the person they're betraying. Hmmm... Link to post Share on other sites
pollywag Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Dang, when I first dun read the title to this thread I thought it was asking if if the husband took the wife to the vet. and had her put to sleep. That happened to my sis Snowball, but she had parasites. Let's pray for Snowball, may she rest in peace...."Our father who art in heaven..." Link to post Share on other sites
OpenBook Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Dang, when I first dun read the title to this thread I thought it was asking if if the husband took the wife to the vet. and had her put to sleep. That happened to my sis Snowball, but she had parasites. Let's pray for Snowball, may she rest in peace...."Our father who art in heaven..." Pollywag, I'm so sorry for your loss. (((HUGS))):love: Link to post Share on other sites
Lyssa Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Dang, when I first dun read the title to this thread I thought it was asking if if the husband took the wife to the vet. and had her put to sleep. That happened to my sis Snowball, but she had parasites. Let's pray for Snowball, may she rest in peace...."Our father who art in heaven..." I'm sorry for your loss. I can't help laughing reading the first line though. I find your posts very... refreshing. Link to post Share on other sites
White Flower Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 Twisted is right. And I don't feel it's a matter of viewpoint. Someone is being cheated on, and the cheater is being considerate to the person they're betraying. Hmmm... In very many ways, yes he is. It could be worse; he could NOT care and bring home all kinds of junk. Link to post Share on other sites
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