stillafool Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I've been reading a lot lately about betrayed spouses suing the Other man woman for "abandonment of affection" or something like that. I was wondering if any BS here has ever sued. I think it's pretty easy to win if you have the evidence. Do you think more BS's will start legal actions against the OP? Link to post Share on other sites
reboot Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 a) There are only 8 states where you can do that b) Suing is expensive, and even though you win, collecting is often impossible. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Not in Canada they won't we have a no fault legal system. In a way it's good I think I mean c'mon being able to sue a burger chain for hot coffee spilled on one's lap and winning? Coffee is hot, heed the obvious. Where does it stop? Do you sue a store because when it rains and you use the umbrella you bought there doesn't fully cover you as you are run to catch a train during rush hour!?!? It's such an American thing to do, sorry no offense against American ways but you gotta admit some of the things that happen in US are so unique, a lot of money grabbing tactics pretty much originate there. It's the home of the infomercial need I say more? Don't get me wrong it has it's good as well, capitalism works and supply and deman is def where it's at but when you try to make a business taking advantage of people's emotional state, that's a bit messed up I think. Link to post Share on other sites
reboot Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 By the way, are you worried about getting sued? Oh, and it's "alienation of affection". Link to post Share on other sites
underpants Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I have seen other grounds used to elicit a lawsuit against someone. Capone was indicted for tax evasion. Point being, if you want to sue someone, if there is a will there is a way. Sometimes it is not so much about winning the lawsuit as it is about bringing dirty laundry into the public eye and on public record. I have also seen a case where the OW sued the MM and won. Link to post Share on other sites
Lizzie60 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 so ridiculous... as if the OW tied the MM up and force him to have sex... geeezzz... I'm so glad I live in Canada... and most states now have a no fault ... Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang Sally Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Again. I think this comes down to how you decide to view "fault" and the couple who is engaged in a cheating relationship. I have said many times (but will say it again) that, to me, BOTH the wayward spouse and the other man/woman that they hook up with are guilty. It's like cheating on an exam in school. If you let someone look at your answers and cheat off of you, you are just as guilty, in my opinion, as the person who did the copying. The teacher (should) punishes both. YMMV. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 so ridiculous... as if the OW tied the MM up and force him to have sex... geeezzz... I'm so glad I live in Canada... and most states now have a no fault ... I'd suggest you stay out of "fault" states in the U.S., Lizzie. You'd quickly be named as a Defendant, several times over, I'm sure. These suits are analogous to tortious interference with contract. Simply stated, if you intentionally cause a party to a contract to breach that contract so that you benefit in some way, the other party to the contract can go after you. Marriage is seen by "fault" states as a contract. Link to post Share on other sites
TogetherForever Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 so ridiculous... as if the OW tied the MM up and force him to have sex... geeezzz... I'm so glad I live in Canada... and most states now have a no fault ... My man & I tie each other up .I'm soooo glad I live in PA!TF Link to post Share on other sites
LucreziaBorgia Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 BS can and do sue the OW/OM in my state. The laws are harsh, as are the penalties. This thread goes into a little detail on AoA and CC. Bottom line: if you interfere in someone's marriage, you will pay for it. The only reason more people don't sue in my state, is that its expensive to do so and BS rarely sees the amount that they are awarded. Link to post Share on other sites
Tomcat33 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 BS can and do sue the OW/OM in my state. The laws are harsh, as are the penalties. This thread goes into a little detail on AoA and CC. Bottom line: if you interfere in someone's marriage, you will pay for it. The only reason more people don't sue in my state, is that its expensive to do so and BS rarely sees the amount that they are awarded. I bet you live in the same State where cunnilingus is also against the law. :p:p Oh Canada thank god for thee!!! Link to post Share on other sites
TogetherForever Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I bet you live in the same State where cunnilingus is also against the law. :p:p Oh Canada thank god for thee!!! For real? It's against the law?Bummer!! Link to post Share on other sites
luvmy2ns Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I'd suggest you stay out of "fault" states in the U.S., Lizzie. You'd quickly be named as a Defendant, several times over, I'm sure. ...and unless we're talkin' Nevada (or is it local only to LV?), she'd also soon garner criminal charges for vice crimes. Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 ...and unless we're talkin' Nevada (or is it local only to LV?), she'd also soon garner criminal charges for vice crimes. It's actually still illegal in Clark County (Las Vegas) and Washoe County (Reno). You pretty much have to be in the desert in the middle of nowhere (i.e., nowhere near a civilized community) for it to be legal. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 These suits are analogous to tortious interference with contract. Simply stated, if you intentionally cause a party to a contract to breach that contract so that you benefit in some way, the other party to the contract can go after you. Marriage is seen by "fault" states as a contract. The only issue I see with this law is the BS cant sue the SO, who actually broke the contract, and you dont need to prove OM/OW had intent. Link to post Share on other sites
Mustang Sally Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 It's actually still illegal in Clark County (Las Vegas) and Washoe County (Reno). You pretty much have to be in the desert in the middle of nowhere (i.e., nowhere near a civilized community) for it to be legal. Ok...I got lost... Are we still talking about extramarital sex? Or cunnilingus? Link to post Share on other sites
Star Gazer Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 The only issue I see with this law is the BS cant sue the SO, who actually broke the contract, and you dont need to prove OM/OW had intent. Well, with the exception of divorce proceedings, you can't sue your own spouse in any state. In addition, you actually DO have to prove intent with an AoA cause of action. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Ok...I got lost... Are we still talking about extramarital sex? Or cunnilingus? Uh, she was not so politely calling Lizzie a prostitite. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Well, with the exception of divorce proceedings, you can't sue your own spouse in any state. In addition, you actually DO have to prove intent with an AoA cause of action. Well, I think thats dumb! Think about it... who actually broke a contract. They dont have AoA in my state... so we have to do things the old fashion way. Link to post Share on other sites
luvmy2ns Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Uh, she was not so politely calling Lizzie a prostitite. That's your take on her ventures, eh? Link to post Share on other sites
Je Ne Regrette Rien Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Wow! That's so crazy! I have always been extremely critical about the compensation culture in the US but suing an OW/OM? Gladly, you wouldn't hear of any such madness in the UK. Link to post Share on other sites
NoIDidn't Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 The only issue I see with this law is the BS cant sue the SO, who actually broke the contract, and you dont need to prove OM/OW had intent. The law actually originated in the time when men thought that they owned their wives. If another man stole your W's attention and affection, you could sue. Women weren't allowed to sue their H's mistresses. They just had to deal with it. Now that the law is being used by women, people are wanting to get rid of it. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Wow! That's so crazy! I have always been extremely critical about the compensation culture in the US but suing an OW/OM? Gladly, you wouldn't hear of any such madness in the UK. I take offense to that! The government and law should provide us legal recourse for the hurt and wrongs which are done to us by others. Divorce costs a ton of money. I see no problem in seeking compensation from somebody who cost you money. So, your taking issue with our culture as a whole because we desire things to be fair? UK must be a sad place to live. Link to post Share on other sites
Je Ne Regrette Rien Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 I take offense to that! The government and law should provide us legal recourse for the hurt and wrongs which are done to us by others. Divorce costs a ton of money. I see no problem in seeking compensation from somebody who cost you money. So, your taking issue with our culture as a whole because we desire things to be fair? UK must be a sad place to live. I'm sorry you take offense to my opinion Cobra. I just think its crazy! And no, I'm not taking issue with the whole american culture, there are many things that are great about it. I've just never understood compensation culture. Divorce does cost a ton of money, correct. But how exactly can this alienation of affection be completely proven beyond reasonable doubt? For example, say a H feels he has alienation of affection from W. After years of trying to fix this problem he eventually looks out of the marriage and has an affair. The W wants a divorce and sues the OW for alienation of affection? This is only one example of how I foresee a million different loopholes. And no, I dont believe people should be able to sue because they are "hurt". My boss hurts my feelings sometimes. Can I sue him? No - because its life. However, my if my boss breaks the UK law and sexually harrasses me? I'm protected by my law to sue him. I just don't get it. And no, the UK isn't a sad place to live - it's what we make it. Both of our countries have their faults, and both have their wonderful aspects too. Link to post Share on other sites
NoIDidn't Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 And no, I dont believe people should be able to sue because they are "hurt". My boss hurts my feelings sometimes. Can I sue him? No - because its life. However, my if my boss breaks the UK law and sexually harrasses me? I'm protected by my law to sue him. But AoA laws are not for suing because you were "hurt". They are because you lost something. Many BSs using the law, do so after a divorce has been filed for by the spouse that is leaving for the new lover. Some BSs stay at home with children and don't work outside the home. They are losing a steady income in that case. Some BSs sue as a matter of principle. They feel that the other person took something of value from them, so they are hitting the other person back where it should hurt as well. I doubt most people that do it, do so because of "hurt". You can slash tires for that. LOL. Link to post Share on other sites
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