NoIDidn't Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I don't post here often, but this is a question that I have had in general. Why do Christians, of any denominational beliefs, get beat up by the people who don't believe as they do? I don't see this with Hindus, or Muslims, or Bhuddists, or other religions that I have encountered. Why is the Christian expected to "prove" Christianity when no other religions can prove themselves either? Why is it cool to be any religion other than a Christian? Link to post Share on other sites
reboot Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 And on a side note, why are Hindu, or Muslim, or Bhuddist children allowed to observe their faith in American schools and Christians aren't? Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 And on a side note, why are Hindu, or Muslim, or Bhuddist children allowed to observe their faith in American schools and Christians aren't? Because it is the politically correct thing to do Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 I don't post here often, but this is a question that I have had in general. Why do Christians, of any denominational beliefs, get beat up by the people who don't believe as they do? I don't see this with Hindus, or Muslims, or Bhuddists, or other religions that I have encountered. Why is the Christian expected to "prove" Christianity when no other religions can prove themselves either? Why is it cool to be any religion other than a Christian? I think that political correctness, fear and ignorance have alot to do with it. To publicly denounce Islam in the UK would be career suicide if you were a public figure, and I think people are too scared to challenge Islam here. Most non-Muslims don't actually know enough about the religion itself to criticise it, and many people associate it with extremism/terrorism, so I think its just a no-go subject. The Jews have been persecuted so much over the years, and particularly badly in times which many people alive today can still remember, that again, it is un-PC to criticise them, and as a religion in general, they keep to themselves, and don't really cause any trouble. Christians can also be a bit more zealous than the other religions, publicly and loudly criticising everything from abortion to homosexuality. However, in the news recently there have been a few prominent Christians who have been publicly caught out NOT practising what they preach, hence are making mockeries of their own religion with their hypocrisy. I think thats why people find it so easy to criticise christians/ catholics/ etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Why do Christians, of any denominational beliefs, get beat up by the people who don't believe as they do? I don't see this with Hindus, or Muslims, or Bhuddists, or other religions that I have encountered. Why is the Christian expected to "prove" Christianity when no other religions can prove themselves either? Why is it cool to be any religion other than a Christian? People are generally offended by the truth! Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism are generally quite peaceful, tolerant religions. Buddhists are taught to respect and tolerate all living things, even people who aren't Buddhists. They have no dice with anyone else, hence no-one seems to have any dice with them. Its the Islamic extremists that give Islam a bad name, the general principles of Islam are to do with peace and acceptance. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 People are generally offended by the truth! Exactomendo! Link to post Share on other sites
taiko Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Christianity is the dominant religion where people are free. Free to speak, free to convert, free to comit any anti religious act. In many cases where Islam is dominant the speaker risk death by stoning or beheading to convert or speak against Islam . As Islam grows in Europe you will see more attacks directed at Muslim theology. Also Christianity, like Islam claims its the only way while other religions say this god works for me while you might find another god who works for you. That assurance that Muslims and Christians bring is seen as hate by nonbelievers so they strike back. Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 People are generally offended by the truth! I'm Catholic and even I found that cheesy Link to post Share on other sites
Yosef Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Christianity is the dominant religion where people are free. Free to speak, free to convert, free to comit any anti religious act. In many cases where Islam is dominant the speaker risk death by stoning or beheading to convert or speak against Islam . As Islam grows in Europe you will see more attacks directed at Muslim theology. Also Christianity, like Islam claims its the only way while other religions say this god works for me while you might find another god who works for you. That assurance that Muslims and Christians bring is seen as hate by nonbelievers so they strike back. Can't we all just... get along!? I guess not. There are "egotheists" and "egoatheists" (my own terms). The obsessive believers/nonbelievers who go off on people who aren't with them. These are the annoying people who cause violence. They don't show the proper respect for each other, therefore making them hypocrites, being taught for thousands of years to respect and love one another, with exception of atheists, but even they must have been taught to respect. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted November 15, 2007 Share Posted November 15, 2007 Christianity is the dominant religion where people are free. Free to speak, free to convert, free to comit any anti religious act. In many cases where Islam is dominant the speaker risk death by stoning or beheading to convert or speak against Islam . As Islam grows in Europe you will see more attacks directed at Muslim theology. Also Christianity, like Islam claims its the only way while other religions say this god works for me while you might find another god who works for you. That assurance that Muslims and Christians bring is seen as hate by nonbelievers so they strike back. Interesting post, thank you. I think I knew that about the perils of speaking out against Islam, however you explained it much better than I did.! Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I'm Catholic and even I found that cheesy Then maybe you should go say three prayers, sprinkle some water on you, and rub some beads to pay for your statement......Christianity is the dominant religion where people are free. We certainly are not free, we've bought with a very hefty price. Free to speak, Not anymore. What used to be a country where everyone had freedom of religion, (and speech), is now becoming a place where Christ is being thrown out of the courthouses, schools, and the general public. and free to convert, That's a personal decision. Christians don't have really that much do with it, but share what we found. free to comit any anti religious act. Oh no we're not. Everyone one of will be judged accordinglyChristians are attacked because the attacker usually doesn't understand Christianity at all...... Link to post Share on other sites
norajane Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Why do Christians' date=' of any denominational beliefs, get beat up by the people who don't believe as they do? I don't see this with Hindus, or Muslims, or Bhuddists, or other religions that I have encountered. [/quote'] Did I miss a news story or something? Where are Christians getting beaten up? By whom? Link to post Share on other sites
disgracian Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Let's put this into some context here: Christianity is the dominant religion here, and it spends a lot of its time attacking everything else: gays, Wiccans, atheists, science, anything that thinks differently. George Bush snr said atheists should not even be counted as citizens. Most Christians think everybody else is going to roast for eternity in Hell. Christians try to enforce their skewed ideas on morality and generally cry over "attacks" to their faith such as granting everybody equal rights. What is generally seen as attacks to Christianity are really just long-persecuted and maligned minority groups standing up for themselves and demanding they no longer be treated as second class citizens. In societies that practice freedom of (and from) religion, where there is a separation of church and state, Jesus should not be enforced on people in schools or courts. The issue of prayer in schools is, like most of the religionists' arguments, bogus. Nobody can (or is trying to) stop people from praying in schools. Christians are still entirely free to pray in school whenever and wherever they please, just as Jesus instructed them to: in private. Anything more than that is unnecessary and, ironically, unbiblical. Also, in response to the OP, the reason Christians are expected to prove their beliefs is because so many of them insist that there is proof, and because they pour enormous money and effort into coercing the rest of the world into their beliefs. They get their religious creation myths taught in science classes for goodness' sake. Other religions that have been mentioned: Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, do not make any demands on me to convert or suffer for eternity. They are peaceful, keep to themselves and are generally friendly people. Only the expansionistic, aggressive religions of the Middle East (Christianity and Islam) push others into a corner where they need the feel to push back. Then they whinge about persecution. Cheers, D. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 bravo Cobra_X30 because Satan fear people see the truth, if people know the truth, Satan cannot achieve his plan, cannot deprive them, cannot eat them alive. other religions don't endanger Satan at all if you do nothing, nobody wants to criticize you; if you are bad, nobody wants to criticize you (have you asked a killer why he doesn't help poor people?); people want to find fault in good, if find one, 'oh, bravo, you are just like me!' that's the human nature (to make self feel good) please remember, if no fear or jealousy, there isn't any reason to criticize others:p we all human beings, all make mistakes, it is God power that changes and matters Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Christianity is the dominant religion here, and it spends a lot of its time attacking everything else: gays, Wiccans, atheists, science, anything that thinks differently. George Bush snr said atheists should not even be counted as citizens. Most Christians think everybody else is going to roast for eternity in Hell. Here we go again......pick and choose everything negative, leave all of the good why don't ya?.....:rolleyes:typical... Link to post Share on other sites
taiko Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Did I miss a news story or something? Where are Christians getting beaten up? By whom? Its not physical assaults, its the radical atheist who butts into a religious thread or service to say all you believe is wrong, you are a fool. When he reads about what Pope X in year Y ................did this and that with a challenge he starts to ask where is the post questioning Islam, Hindi or other faith with as much thought and research time. Of course the Christopher Hitchens of the world say they have the right, no, the responsibility to intrude because a Jehovah's Witness once knocked on their door or TBN takes up one of their channels. Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 One of reasons that people choose to release murder and want to kill Jesus was because they were jealous, can you believe that? jealousy made them kill a most innocent man in human history, maybe they feel jealousy when see blessing that God gives, people are crazy Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Here we go again......pick and choose everything negative, leave all of the good why don't ya?.....:rolleyes:typical... Yes, at least appreciate the invention of a rotating spit so that when you are being cooked like a rotisserie chicken over hellfire, at least you will be nice and succulent. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Yes, at least appreciate the invention of a rotating spit so that when you are being cooked like a rotisserie chicken over hellfire, at least you will be nice and succulent.Point taken.... Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 Point taken.... Oh, not point, I was just eating chicken at the time my geniussness came out in that post. Link to post Share on other sites
underpants Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 I think that all faiths have (some) ideals to contribute to the world and to a global society. It is when one is pitted against another or that one faith is shoved down another's throat that I have trouble seeing the good. I have personally known more then a few medical missionaries that proudly refused treatment until the patient accepted Jesus. If you are dying or sick you will do or agree to anything to get better. I just heard these stories (from the missionaries) and quietly perceived them as 'religious torture'. It takes away from the religion, at least, to me. Any power when too much seems to have stray threads of corruption. Christianity being a very mainstream religion has it's fair share of corruption, as do other schools of religion. It is enough to make some be done with them all or just cherry pick the ideals from each that they like and not label themselves as any. That would be me. If there was more tolerance for other schools of religion proudly announced by all the religious figureheads as well as followers. I think this would be a good thing for devout people everywhere. It doesn't detract from 'your' faith to accept and respect other systems of belief. Like Jer (and Rodney King) said. "Can't we all just get along?". Link to post Share on other sites
lonelybird Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 because some people did wrong and got labeled badly as a whole group by certain people who close eyes to positiveness, so I will throw away my relationship with Lord? No way, too crazy if I do that I understand human make mistakes, but God will not. When will this point get acrossed? or you just want to find exuses to not obey God? too much loss if do that Link to post Share on other sites
shadowofman Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 As a person of at least some worth, I see it as my job to defend reason. I don't storm churches and scream at people, but I will respond to irrational statements. If a man told me that he has a dragon in is garage, I may humor him, but if everyone else in the room is in agreement or simply believes him, I will shake them back to reality. I pull no punches with Islam or buddism. I just know more about Christianity. It surrounds me. I'll tell you right now that the character Jesus never existed, and Mohammad never asended to heaven on a flying horse. Budda never acheived Nirvana. Kali is just the personification of a concept. All fiction. It's not my opinion, it's pretty much fact. Horses DON'T fly. Nirvana is a band. Jesus is a rewrite of the character Horus. I fight to keep church and state seperate, like the founders wanted. I would love to get all reference to God out of my government, and make churches pay taxes. Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 "An eye for an Eye makes the whole world Blind". Nirvana is a band..... and Samsara is a perfume.... Words are transitory. Everything is, including this thread. Enjoy it while it lasts. I'm off to 'Enlightenment'. Just like Buddha. Link to post Share on other sites
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