You're not going to agree with me but we're all losers here

[Trialbyfire]

I agree with that statement (bold)... and one day or another, the real life comes out...

I also agree with this statement. There are plenty of people looking for validation on LS and aren't interested in helping or being helped.

[samQ2005]

There have been a few incidents recently where I have been quite surprised at real-life revelations, although to be fair, I haven't dug particularly deep into analysing said posters, I have just assumed things about them from the tone of their posts on here. Wrongly it would appear.

 

There are also some posters who seem to enjoy wallowing in their own misery, despite repeated attempts at other posters trying to get them out of it. I lose my patience pretty quick on those threads, if you hadn't noticed. Best for me to stay away if at first a post doesn't succeed.

 

I am pretty direct IRL, and the number of infractions I have here would suggest a few LSers agree with me!

 

I am lucky enough to be one of the ones who actually IS in a happy R, but who knows, anything can happen, things could change, although I hope they don't, I am not arrogant enough to presume I am immune to the ups and downs of life, and I have had my fair share over the years.

 

Anyway, point is... Sam is either looking for affirmation that he is right, or people debating with him so he can continue to post negative thoughts.

I don't think he has any interest at all in actually pulling himself out of this current negative mindset..... or maybe I am wrong about that too?

 

Other views are always welcome. You said yours. I didn't come here looking for a cure or something. It's a forum. Forums are for debates, unless i missed something. Why come on here and slate me for posting my views??

 

Also im not just here to be negative, I want to see how other people view a person in that kind of mindset or crisis. What is so wrong in that?

[sb129]

I also agree with this statement. There are plenty of people looking for validation on LS and aren't interested in helping or being helped.

 

Oh definitely.

 

See below.

 

Other views are always welcome. You said yours. I didn't come here looking for a cure or something. It's a forum. Forums are for debates, unless i missed something. Why come on here and slate me for posting my views??

 

Also im not just here to be negative, I want to see how other people view a person in that kind of mindset or crisis. What is so wrong in that?

 

Nothing wrong, but you asked, you got. If you don't like it, thats up to you.

 

Thats what the ignore button is for.

[EricOnTheWeb]

Believe me, i tried everything that people have said already but then things happen again that knock you right back.

 

You can be as confident and as optimistic as you want, the real world will not reward you.

 

i am not asking for Miss World, infact I have such low expectations that you'd feel sorry.

 

Some people on here say one thing, but i bet they behave totally differently in the real world.

 

I'm not looking for miss world either, just the girl that takes my breath away, no matter what she looks like. To me whoever that is, will be my miss world.

 

I know how this feels man.... You're talking to someone that comes out of freakin video stores with tears in the eyes cause he sees some young couple having fun picking out movies together, while I take my movie home and never watch it cause it gets to depressing to watch alone.

 

I'm 30, and I'll be damned if I am going to keep loathing in self pitty for my next 30 years. I'm not the best looking "Hawt" guy out there, but I'm relying on that some girl will notice my attitude and my caring to devote to a relationship.

 

If you are ugly then that is it.. You need to accept it and move on, it's hard as God damn hell, but if you want to keep feeling like this for your entire life, then keep on crying yourself to sleep at night, and dream on child.. I've done this and I still am, but you know what?... I'm tired of it!.. I'm a geeky lookin guy, and I will move on and welcome the girl that finds me to be something.. I'll keep plugging along, and all the people who have a problem with my appearence can kiss my ass.

 

Once my girl comes along, none of that will matter to me..NONE of IT!.

I may not get that girl, and it hurts to say that to myself, but I'm going to keep on dreaming... I'll dream about it to the day I die...

 

You're giving up, I am not... you can change that.... we can all change.

[Lizzie60]

What do you read of me Lizzie?

 

I don't know you enough, I didn't read any of your other posts... so I would need to read more about you... I do not read in crystal ball... LOL

[samQ2005]

I'm not looking for miss world either, just the girl that takes my breath away, no matter what she looks like. To me whoever that is, will be my miss world.

 

I know how this feels man.... You're talking to someone that comes out of freakin video stores with tears in the eyes cause he sees some young couple having fun picking out movies together, while I take my movie home and never watch it cause it gets to depressing to watch alone.

 

I'm 30, and I'll be damned if I am going to keep loathing in self pitty for my next 30 years. I'm not the best looking "Hawt" guy out there, but I'm relying on that some girl will notice my attitude and my caring to devote to a relationship.

 

If you are ugly then that is it.. You need to accept it and move on, it's hard as God damn hell, but if you want to keep feeling like this for your entire life, then keep on crying yourself to sleep at night, and dream on child.. I've done this and I still am, but you know what?... I'm tired of it!.. I'm a geeky lookin guy, and I will move on and welcome the girl that finds me to be something.. I'll keep plugging along, and all the people who have a problem with my appearence can kiss my ass.

 

Once my girl comes along, none of that will matter to me..NONE of IT!.

I may not get that girl, and it hurts to say that to myself, but I'm going to keep on dreaming... I'll dream about it to the day I die...

 

You're giving up, I am not... you can change that.... we can all change.

 

I admire your optimism and I hope it works out for you because I don't wish for anyone to feel like i do.

 

it's just you feel so hopeless when things are out of your hands. I can talk to girls, no problem, i can be very articulate and interesting but nowadays these things don't really matter when you ask a girl out...

[EricOnTheWeb]

I admire your optimism and I hope it works out for you because I don't wish for anyone to feel like i do.

 

it's just you feel so hopeless when things are out of your hands. I can talk to girls, no problem, i can be very articulate and interesting but nowadays these things don't really matter when you ask a girl out...

 

 

First thing is that, IT IS IN YOUR HANDS, you just don't see it yet. I thought the same thing, but by coming here and talking to a councellor in real life, I realized that "I" am my worst enemy, keeping myself sheltered and AWAY from people, and pursuing a relationship. I know now that I am the only one that can bring myself out of this, and if you or I continue to loath in this self pitty trip, we will never realize that we can to, have succsess in pursuing a relationship.

 

You already have a jump start on me, I never been with a woman, am a 30 year old virgin, and really nervous if I try to speak with a girl I like.

You said you can talk with girls, and are interesting in convo... Go from there and keep working on being the nicest guy they have ever met, and who knows, you may get lucky.

 

One thing is for sure, this attitude you have will keep you DOWN...Girls will see this in you and it turns them off. I have the same attitude in life, but I'm at the point that I am F*cking tired of it.. I am coming out of a depression because of this, and it has been really really tough.

All I can really say is keep friends, be nice, do things that you like and what makes you feel good, and be confident within yourself.

 

This is what the people here on LoveShack have told me, and I am a work in progress myself... We can do it man... Don't let it take you down, cause it is very difficult to get back up. Be confident, be strong, and stay frosty.

[Trialbyfire]

First thing is that, IT IS IN YOUR HANDS, you just don't see it yet. I thought the same thing, but by coming here and talking to a councellor in real life, I realized that "I" am my worst enemy, keeping myself sheltered and AWAY from people, and pursuing a relationship. I know now that I am the only one that can bring myself out of this, and if you or I continue to loath in this self pitty trip, we will never realize that we can to, have succsess in pursuing a relationship.

 

You already have a jump start on me, I never been with a woman, am a 30 year old virgin, and really nervous if I try to speak with a girl I like.

You said you can talk with girls, and are interesting in convo... Go from there and keep working on being the nicest guy they have ever met, and who knows, you may get lucky.

 

One thing is for sure, this attitude you have will keep you DOWN...Girls will see this in you and it turns them off. I have the same attitude in life, but I'm at the point that I am F*cking tired of it.. I am coming out of a depression because of this, and it has been really really tough.

All I can really say is keep friends, be nice, do things that you like and what makes you feel good, and be confident within yourself.

 

This is what the people here on LoveShack have told me, and I am a work in progress myself... We can do it man... Don't let it take you down, cause it is very difficult to get back up. Be confident, be strong, and stay frosty.

Listen to Eric. He's got the right attitude and he's going to make it:

• YOU are keeping yourself down by making yourself a victim of yourself.
  
• YOU trap yourself in your own negative image.
  
• Only YOU can pull yourself out.

[rdnjr]

I only read part of that original post and it is utter crap. It's only your fault that you are in that position. Who the hell said that you have to live miserably? Get out and do something with your life. Life sucks at times, sure, but are you going to make the most of it or are you going to mope around in your own pile of self deconstruction ****? You can change things man, it's all in your mind. It's your mind, control it. If you don't like how you feel about something, then change about how you think about it. Make something happen. If you don't like the way you look, then change it. Start lifting weights or whatever, get on a diet and find some good hobbies that your passionate about. Make new friends, start being social, and do not care what other people think. You can change things man, make it happen.

[Leia]

It's not a question of confidence or self esteem. It's not about being depressed. Somethings are just meant to be. Some people are born ugly like you and me and nothing is going to change that.

 

Some people are born ugly but not me....

 

In today's world no good looking boy/girl will want to go out with an ugly person. FACT. If someone tells you something different, they're not being honest, you may as well bury your head in the sand.

 

Oh you're right. IT IS A FACT!

 

...and don't tell me that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There's shared view on who's ugly and who's not. Life sucks BIG time.

 

No.... beauty is beauty. It's not in the eyes of the beholder. I don't like that line too.... people should just be honest. "You're ugly... bye!". I'll keep that in mind.

 

The brutal truth in life is that if you're not born with 'it' you will go down the road of failure and misery.

 

I don't know which part of the world you live in... or if you live on the same planet as us but few names were mentioned and those "ugly" people are no way a failure nor are they misery!

 

If you believe in God, then at least you have something spiritual to comfort you knowing that "this is just a test".

 

Being ugly is a test?? No wonder I didn't pass the test....

 

For some who don't believe because they're not convinced by this utterly unfair ridiculous test then I'm afraid you just have to accept life as it is. Yeh it's sh*t but you have no choice and you have to get on with it. You have to go to work 9 - 5 everyday in a useless underpaid job with no hope of being promoted, coz you were born stupid and ugly. Then you go back home and sit alone while stuffing your face in junk food. You watch some porn, jack off then go to sleep. You have no g/f, no friends. infact all your friends are successful with beautiful wives and g/fs. Your misery is compounded, you eat more, you get fatter, uglier and older. You get caught in a vicious cycle that you can't get out of and before you know it, your life is f*cking over. REST in F*CKING AGONY.

 

My father's employee is "ugly" and he gets paid a lot. Why don't you give an example of your definition of "ugly". If that is your life.... like you described above, dude.... you're soooo sad!

 

Life is gonna stay sh*t for most of us and NO, there is no hope, it is a dead end, we've been f*cked since we were born coz our parents were ugly. Don't make the same mistake and give birth to kids who are gonna inherit your loser ugly genes.

 

I'm very blessed to be born in a beautiful family. I'm sure if I married an "ugly" guy, our kids would end up beautiful.

 

Suicide ain't an option coz you're gonna upset some people around you. So in the meantime, lets all suffer together and watch the good looking people with envy and jealousy living their life happily and successfully while they're laughing at us

 

Speak for yourself about suffering in life. There are more beautiful people than me out there but do I give a $hit?? No I don't. I am not jealous nor am I envious of other people. It's sad that there are people like you out there. By the way, I don't laugh at "ugly" people but I laugh at losers like you for making this like a HUGE problem! Do you know there are kids out there that have no food, no clothes and not even a bloody roof over their heads? Think about that. They don't give a $hit about how they look.

 

Goodluck to you all as I feel sorry for you. Don't feel sorry for me though coz i'm past that stage. Just when you think you hit rock bottom, you go down another level. This is a never ending pit of despair and failure until you die alone. No one will know that you died because everyone lives their lives without you. They don't need you, a dishwasher is more important than you, you are nothing, you don't exist.

 

goodnight

 

No. Good luck to you for feeling this way and I feel so sorry for you. You're not past this stage AT ALL. If you were, you wouldn't have started this thread and ended it as such.

[desertguy]

Been reading this site for a few weeks, first post here .

 

Yep, some people are born more physically attractive, to the original poster, yeah that's a biological fact. I acknowledge that much of what you say is true, less attractive, overweight, less confident, fill in the blank here, people do get viewed as less than desireable if you only take looks into account, I won't lie here, BUT, that is far from all the attributes that make up a person. But if all you identify with is your physical appearance, and wail and moan about the unfairness of it all, guess what, you'll get the same attitude reflected right back at you.

 

None of us are perfect, that's for damn sure, OK? Everybody's been through sh*t my man, some more than others. Go down to a cancer ward sometime, and then tell me how crappy your life is. The thing is though, looks are such a small part of someone's overall personality. You probably just think I'm blowing smoke, so I'll give you a few real life examples from my own life, and friends I've known.

 

In college, I had a good friend who was very plain looking, to be nice about it, but he was a very intelligent person with a great personality. He had an absolutely awesome knowledge and talent for financial matters. He's done pretty well for himself in that regard. But he was also wise and mature beyond his years in other ways. He taught me so much about life, being the unsophisticated, immature dork I was back then. And shock of shock: he did get laid, a lot more than me, OK? Not by the cheerleader types OK, but who REALLY wants those vapid kind of women, but he had a lot of pretty cool, *real* female friends who thought he was an interesting, fun guy.

 

As for me, well, I was skinny and very shy growing up. I always thought I was ugly as sin. I didn't get a date throughout all of high school, was a virgin until 22, and didn't have a girlfriend until 24. I found out eventually I am not ugly, but I sure as hell thought I was. Oh, and that first girlfriend, she was somewhat plain looking, not a bathing beauty by any means, but I was attracted to her, so what did it matter? I wasn't looking for a trophy, but a serious relationship. As soon as I dropped some of my intial ideas of perfection, guess what, she looked even better and better. We eventually broke up, mainly because of my negative, depressed moods I would have sometimes. I still had a lot of growing up to do. She was the first, and only real love of my life to that point, and I still sometimes think about her, all these years later.

 

After that, I wallowed in self pity for a few years, until I finally got sick of it, and decided to change. I got involved in sports, got myself into shape, tried new things that scared the living sh*t out of me at first, and also went to therapy. It didn't happen over night, it took a few years, and was painful as hell at times, but I worked on myself, developed other interests, and actually became happy with myself and independent. Going on dates, asking out women was painful and scary, and a lot of time ended in rejection, I still had a lot of insecurity that was showing through, which is a big turnoff to anybody. I cried myself to sleep a lot back then. You can't fake confidence, you have to go through the painful process of growing first, no short cuts there.

 

The whole point is everybody has at least some aspect of their personality, some passion, something they can improve on and develop. Only you know what that might be. Even if you don't, get out and try things, crazy things. I never in the life of me thought I would like snowboarding, but I tried it and absolutely love it now. Seriously, life's too short to wallow in self pity or anger. That's the real value in life, not how many women you've bagged, how many trophies you have, but that you've done something with your life and found some simple pleasures. If you can get to that point, you might find you're more attractive overall than you think. Is it easy, hell no, but why not try? With all the crap that life can be, finding passions and simple pleasures are what we do to life, not what life does to us. And that's much more of a sucess story to me than bagging some hot babes. Sorry, I won't be on my deathbed lamenting that I didn't get those hot girls, but I would be heartbroken if I never did anything else with my life. I don't really care for Creed, but listen to the song "My Own Prison" sometime, we really do create our own prisons.

 

Oh, and I date regularly now, and have fun in the process. I never thought a few years ago I would ever be able to, seriously. Yeah, I'd love to meet the 'one', but if I never do, my life still means something to me Romantic relationships, like physical appearance are only one small part of the whole. Attitude and some hard work can work wonders for your self esteem and your life, and can also make you more overall attractive in the process.

 

Anyway, my $.02 for what it's worth. This forum's cool, think I'll stick around a while here.

[sb129]

Saw a programme a while ago about beautiful people who were crying because sometimes its so hard to be beautiful.

 

Some people are just hardwired to never be happy with their lot, I am sure of it.

 

Which, as Leia said, is frustrating when you consider the amount of people out there for whom simply surviving is a struggle.

 

Desertguy- great post, hope to see more of them.

[adam S]

speak for ur self...im like sex, everyone wants me...oh and by the way who ever wrote this thread...uhh...you might want to see a SHRINK ASAP! maybe a suicide help line too

[adam S]

ok forget the previous post ill try to be serious...i didnt manage to read your whole thing there but i read bits and pieces. The first thing i noticed is that you don't just refer to ur self as ugly but u say "we" as in pretty much anyone who uses this forum for support. Im not trying to be hot sh*t or anything but thats messed up. What is the really definition of good looking or not good lookin? Ive dated very good looking girls(by societies standards) and ive date no so good lookin ones. Ill tell you tho the ones that i really miss are the not so good lookin ones because they were real and they were nice. good lookin chix cheat(not all, but a lot). I came into this forum because i recently went through a break up with a good lookin chick and i felt like sh*t, i didnt really need advice all that much cause ill do what i want anyway but i came here because i wanted to reasure myself that there are other people out there that are going through similiar things as me and that its ok to be down and depressed atleast for a while. were all human. I really dont know who u are or anything about ur life but it sounds like you are between a rock and a hard place and ur life isnt going to change for the better until you change the way u think. You don't need to be good looking to make it in life...thats retarded...look at bill gates, not a great lookin guy(a nerd if you will) but hes the richest man in the world...take all the good lookin people in the world and he could swat them down with his cold hard cash....i mean seriously get some help lol...

[JCD]

Hang in there, you will find your girl when not looking.

[desertguy]

Saw a programme a while ago about beautiful people who were crying because sometimes its so hard to be beautiful.

 

Some people are just hardwired to never be happy with their lot, I am sure of it.

 

Which, as Leia said, is frustrating when you consider the amount of people out there for whom simply surviving is a struggle.

 

Desertguy- great post, hope to see more of them.

 

sb129, thanks, I wondered if I overstepped my bounds here with my first post, but the more I see of this site, I don't think so. This subject I've had some experience with, to say the least, and wanted to share my thoughts on it. LS seems to me to be some honest, frank discussion about relationship issues, but without being mean spirited, more results oriented, which is probably why this site appealed to me. Now if I could just get that B-52's song out of my head whenever I come here....

 

desertguy

[sb129]

Now if I could just get that B-52's song out of my head whenever I come here....

 

It takes a while! i actually saw the b-52s live at a festival in Spain earlier this year. When they did Loveshack, they introduced it as a "song made famous by....us!".

They were pretty good considering they are all getting on a bit!

[EricOnTheWeb]

It takes a while! i actually saw the b-52s live at a festival in Spain earlier this year. When they did Loveshack, they introduced it as a "song made famous by....us!".

They were pretty good considering they are all getting on a bit!

 

 

Are you serious?... they actually know about this place?... LOL..

[RecordProducer]

I don't understand why people take this thread personally and react to the "We are all losers" statement. If you think you're good-looking or not a loser, why reply with "I am not a loser." Why protest too much? I think what he meant was "we - ugly people - are losers." So if you're not ugly, don't feel called.

"You're ugly... bye!". I'll keep that in mind.

Ouch! That was sensitive of you, Leia!

 

Do you know there are kids out there that have no food, no clothes and not even a bloody roof over their heads? Think about that. They don't give a $hit about how they look.

This reality. Two thirds of the world have financial problems and one third lacks basic existential means. Hundreds of millions of people don't eat every day! Millions of them live in war, illness, and REAL agony. Unfortunately, these facts don't make us happier. We will still suffer because of love, envy, and greed. In some Asian and south-American countries people have no food, but in the US people will suffer because they don't have a fancy car or a house. Unfortunately, I am closer to the latter group and most likely everyone on LS.

 

No. Good luck to you for feeling this way and I feel so sorry for you. You're not past this stage AT ALL. If you were, you wouldn't have started this thread and ended it as such.

I agree. Some people get over their not-so-great looks. Most don't. And Sam has definitely not reconciled with this fact.

 

You can't fake confidence, you have to go through the painful process of growing first, no short cuts there.

I really enjoyed this post. Thank you for answering a question for me. I wondered why I felt so confident and it appears it's because I've been through so much sh*t and pain in life that I am more serious than life itself, than the people I meet or the situations I enter. Nothing can surprise me and I always feel "competent" enough to deal with the new person or circumstance.

 

We live our lives in our minds (unless we are sick or hungry or disabled). Your body is just a property where YOU reside. And just like with any property, you can be happy living in an ugly one or unhappy living in a beautiful one. I am good-looking and I've been miserable most of my life. The only real beauty lies in my inner energy, my mental strength, and my motherhood. These things give me the ability to enjoy life. Life is hard for everyone, whether you're missing a limb or missing sex. People as species are simply incapable of being fully happy no matter what. Some people claim they are happy with their simple lives, but other would not be happy in their shoes. It's all a matter of attitude.

[EricOnTheWeb]

I'm so friggin ugly.......... I am such a loser.......

[Trialbyfire]

I'm so friggin ugly.......... I am such a loser.......

There's a term that Ladyjane14, uses a lot in the Infidelity forum. It's "stinkin' thinkin'".

 

You can allow negative thoughts to drive you or you can actively control them by whatever means works for you. Also, negative attention isn't going to help you. It will just reinforce a need to self-flagellate.

[Lovegod]

Now if I could just get that B-52's song out of my head whenever I come here....

 

Yeah, I know what you mean. Some of the love stories here are just as cheesy as Rock Lobster.

[Da_1_n_OnlyN3na]

YOU MUST HAVE LOW SELF ESTEEM BECAUSE LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.. A PERSON MAYBE UGLY BUT IF THEY HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THEIR SELF AND ACCEPT THEMSELVES AS THEY ARE IT DOEST AFFECT THEM AND THEY TAKE A BAD COMPLIMENT AS A JOKE AND JOKE ABOUT THEMSELVES AND PEOPLE SEE THAT SO THEY GET ALONG WITH EVERYONE...THEY DONT LOSE THEIR FRIENDS JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE UGLY..ONLY IF THEY HAVE AND UGLY PERSONALITY...DONT BLAME YOUR PARENTS FOR BRINGING YOU TO THIS WORLD THE WAY YOU LOOK.. IN FACT THANK THEM FOR NOT ABORTING YOU AND LETTING YOUR F.UCKiiN ASS LIVE AND BREATHE THE AIR YOUR NOT DESERVING...

 

AND ANOTHER THING, SOMEONE MAYBE UGLY BUT YOU GO TO THEIR HOUSE AND THEY HAVE MORE LOVE AND PEACE THEN ANY GOOD LOOKING PERSON...A SEXII PERSON DOESNT ALWAYS HAVE A GREAT LIFE... IF ITS A GIRL SHE GETS HURT BECAUSE A GUY MIGHT JUST WANT HER TO SHOW HER OFF AND USE HER.. BEAT THAT JOINT AND LEAVE HER AND ACT LIKE HE NEVER HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH HER...AND THEN THE GIRL LIVES HER LIFE CRYING ALL THE TIME BECAUSE HER LIFE IS SO WORTHLESS...IF IT IS A GUY HE GOES AROUND AND THINKS HES THE SEXXIEST GUY IN THE WHOLE F.UCKIiiNG WORLD HURTING GIRLS AND THEN THE GIRLS START HATING HIM HE STARTS GETTING INTO FIGHTS WITH OTHER GUYS WHO THINK HES A COCKY ASS NIGGA AND GETS HIS ASS WHOOPED...DROPS OUT OF SCHOOL BECAUSE HE THINKS HES SO GREAT AND NEVER GETS A GOOD JOB....DO YOU THINK THAT ALL THAT MATTER IN LIFE IS BEING BEAUTIFUL?? NO I DONT THINK SO...SOME PEOPLE DONT LOOK AT THOSE THINGS..AND TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.. NO ONE IS UGLY JUST SOME PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO DRESS OR ACT BECAUSE THEY JUST ACCEPT THEMSELVES HOW THEY ARE AND DONT TRY TO LOOK BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE....STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE.. IVE LEARMED THIS THE HARD WAY..NEGATIVITY GETS YOU NOWHERE BUT IN A BIGGER, DARKER AND LONELY WHOLE...

[samQ2005]

Some people are born ugly but not me....

 

 

 

Oh you're right. IT IS A FACT!

 

 

 

No.... beauty is beauty. It's not in the eyes of the beholder. I don't like that line too.... people should just be honest. "You're ugly... bye!". I'll keep that in mind.

 

 

 

I don't know which part of the world you live in... or if you live on the same planet as us but few names were mentioned and those "ugly" people are no way a failure nor are they misery!

 

 

No. Good luck to you for feeling this way and I feel so sorry for you. You're not past this stage AT ALL. If you were, you wouldn't have started this thread and ended it as such.

 

wow, you're an even bigger loser than me, i feel much better now

 

oh and judging by your pic, uh....you have the face of a girafe lol

[wizer]

oh and judging by your pic, uh....you have the face of a girafe lol

 

I don't see a pic. How come I don't see a pic?