obstruktion Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Hey Guys, I was listening to Bill Harris one time and he telling a story about one of the founders of NLP. People used to come this guy's office that used to be afraid of going outdoors. And he'd say "really, how did you create that? You mean you're an expert at feeling fear in that way? I love to get know experts, help me learn how you feel that way." So let's discuss the ways in which we're creating what we don't want in our lives. Let's bring some awareness.What are your biggest challenges or frustrations with the stuff in this self-improvement world? What is no other big “guru guy” giving you that you feel you need? Drop a quick answer if you choose to participate. Let me know if I should post this question in other areas of our forum. I feel these issues relate to all parts of our lives. -Ma Here's mine: I've been a real fan of this law of attraction stuff for awhile, but am having trouble attracting like-minded people into my life. I get frustrated because I don't think the "gurus" out there relate to me. I feel like they were where I was so long ago. Link to post Share on other sites
get.mos Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 hmm, NLP = neurolinguistic programming? and law of attraction a la the secret? yes, i'm open to alternative methodologies. the phrase misery loves company comes to mind, because, when you surround yourself with misery, does that not allow you to wallow in it and subsequently not move on from it? or take longer to move on from it? i used to have an online playground (forum) until i realized there were quite a few people who were more concerned about showing other users on that forum how much better, smarter, experienced, etc. and i found myself regressing to their likes, which doesn't allow me to grow. one thing i like to do is surround myself with individuals from whom i can learn something. i also have the capability to learn from individuals who emulate behavior i don't want, but that can be more mentally or emotionally draining. perhaps that's a take on the law of attraction. Link to post Share on other sites
CanadaGuy Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 "am having trouble attracting like-minded people into my life" you MIGHT be (I say might) be talking a big game, but not doing. I know many people talk about what they are going to do, and that they will be this and that, but they have done nothing to show they are working at it. A late friend of mine had a quote that I really like "many people can talk the talk, but few people can walk the walk" Talk is cheap, actions speak loader than words! Link to post Share on other sites
Geishawhelk Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 "There is a danger that, in surrounding yourself with too many roses, you forget that 'fertiliser' helped them bloom". I think 'trying' to surround yourself with any particular genre, type or 'class' of person, you forget that (1) you may be the person they're trying to avoid in the first place(!) and (2) you alienate yourself unnecessarily from the experience of mingling with those who can be a challenge to you and your ideals. These people can actually feed and nourish what you stand for, and help you concretise the courage of your convictions. 'Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer' is a good one, and can teach you more about other people - and yourself - than by merely sticking to the potential cronies in life. After all, it's not what happens to you that is the issue. It's how you deal with it, that's important. And those choices are yours, and yours alone. Link to post Share on other sites
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