Kamille Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 No one likes them, some guys just settle for them if they don't have other options. We like girls who look like they play sports few times a week and don't eat at Denny's at 2am after drinking 5 beers at a bar. We like 8-15% bodyfat on women; any good gym will tell you yours. EDIT: Exactly, chick in the video - see how she has no fat on her sides? So I take it all men of the universe have organized and voted you in as their chief representative and their one and only true voice. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 So I take it all men of the universe have organized and voted you in as their chief representative and their one and only true voice. Of course. You must have not heard about it. Link to post Share on other sites
Kamille Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Of course. You must have not heard about it. Well you know, it will make things easier. When in doubt: Ask Sunblast! Link to post Share on other sites
Dynamo Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Of course. You must have not heard about it. Hey, we've got to keep these meetings secret, you know! Hmm, ideal body type. Well I think men and women both IDEALLY want someone who is physically fit. Someone who looks thin, fit and healthy is sexy. Don't both men and women think this? That being said, it's not like we'd only date women who meet certain expectations.. Or atleast, I'm not that shallow. I know I'm not perfect so I don't expect her to be either. If we lived in a perfect world, everyone would be fit, healthy and attractive.. But until then, I have ZERO problems with your average girl. And besides, in the end personality > all. She could be the hottest person in the world but if she's a bitch, then I'd say adios without a second thought. Link to post Share on other sites
shadowplay Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I think it depends entirely on the guy. Some guys like very thin, others like curvier women. I think the safest bet is usually somewhere in between -- that elusive slender yet curvy. I'm 5'6" and pretty happy with my weight at 115 lbs. I also have decent sized breasts and a curvy frame. One of my exes thought I was too thin. The other two found my weight ideal. They're both into "skinny" girls. My current bf also says he prefers "skinny women." I'm guessing this is partly why I attracted them to begin with. I find it a bit exhausting to maintain a thin frame, though, I'll admit. I weigh myself daily and have to cut back on my food intake a lot because I have a big appetite. I usually eat a lot on the weekends when I go out to restaurants and then diet over the week. I try to eat healthy foods as well and work out occasionally. Link to post Share on other sites
scratch Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 No one likes them, some guys just settle for them if they don't have other options. When you refer to people who don't have any other options, would that also include women who have to date law school dropouts who can only find work as temp paralegals? We like 8-15% body fat on women; any good gym will tell you yours. Provide a link to a photo of woman with 8% body fat. Do you realize that's what female bodybuilders peak at before a show? Is that what you, and all men, like? Figure competitors, who are also pretty lean, show at 10-12%. The number "we" like is 15-22%. Personally, I like thin women. A benchmark for my preference is 5'4, 115, then add or subtract 5 pounds per inch of variation. 5'2=105, 5'6=125, etc. And a pooch, love handles, or a spare tire around your middle is a major turnoff. But only one opinion matters, OP - yours. Decide how you want to look, how much you're willing to sacrifice to get there, and balance those two decisions to arrive at your plan of action. Then, live with it without regret. Link to post Share on other sites
shadowplay Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I find many different women attractive for different reasons. But if I had a type.. hmm. Do not find the Paris Hilon waif look appealing at all. Women should be soft and not bony to me. I like shorter women ... nice heart shaped rear with a little extra, think a young Rosie Perez body with green eyes, auburn hair, a nicer voice and ... dang sounds like my ex ... LOL Don't worry it about so much. A couple extra pounds are no big deal. If you want to lose some for yourself than do it. Anyone worth having as a mate shouldn't care that much. Rosie Perez was tiny when she was younger. She was just lucky to have curves in the right places, but she was pretty thin. Her measurements: 34C-23-34 1/2 Check out this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NC1qL1y_ETk Link to post Share on other sites
shadowplay Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I also think it depends on your geographical location. In a city, especially one like NY or LA, where the majority of young women are very thin men may be more into the "skinny" look. In the midwest, the ideal is probably a bit heavier. Link to post Share on other sites
kymberann Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 Eight per cent body fat for a woman?? That is ludacris! I am 5'6'' and I weigh 150. I know my body fat is between 20 and 24 per cent. The average for women is roughly 18 to 24. However as for weight you need to be careful, muscle weighs more than fat so your weight may be up there but you can always be muscly. I am, I liftroad race and run and have very "sporty thighs". My Biceps are getting huge too. I finally had a guy friend tell me my shoulders and biceps were getting too big! I have to say I am proud of that accomplishment! Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted December 6, 2007 Share Posted December 6, 2007 I find it a bit exhausting to maintain a thin frame, though, I'll admit. I weigh myself daily and have to cut back on my food intake a lot because I have a big appetite. I usually eat a lot on the weekends when I go out to restaurants and then diet over the week. I try to eat healthy foods as well and work out occasionally. I went through that in sports. I'm going to be honest and say that kind of sounds like a body image problem... with a bit of an eating disorder! Only you know for sure... but I spent four years maintaining weight... I'd say a lot of the stuff I did was very unhealthy. Link to post Share on other sites
Leoni Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Rosie Perez was tiny when she was younger. She was just lucky to have curves in the right places, but she was pretty thin. Her measurements: 34C-23-34 1/2 Check out this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=NC1qL1y_ETk Those are very close to my measurements but I'm not sure how tall she is. As long as you have 10 or more inches between breast to waist to hips, you'll be curvy, no matter how thin or heavy you are. Link to post Share on other sites
shadowplay Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Those are very close to my measurements but I'm not sure how tall she is. As long as you have 10 or more inches between breast to waist to hips, you'll be curvy, no matter how thin or heavy you are. Yeah, she's curvy yet very thin. That's my point. You can't have a 23 inch waist and not be thin. In the video she also has thin arms and legs. The problem is most women don't have their fat naturally distributed in all the right places, so they look better at a lower weight. If they gain weight, they'll get a "pooch" or something else considered undesirable. It's rare to find somebody with an ideal, hour glass figure and no problem areas. "Curvy" has become synonymous with fuller figured, but truly "curvy" frames in the ideal sense are rare. Instead heavier women tend to look somewhat shapeless. Link to post Share on other sites
Crestfallen_KH Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Wow, I'm 5'10, and if I go by your scale, scratch, I would have to weigh 145 to be in your ideal range? Wow. Well, we're all entitled to our preferences I guess! If I weighed 145 my ribs would show. The skinny supermodels my height weigh around 120, which is appalling. I guess I'm just larger framed or something. My healthy weight (both according to how I feel about myself and my BMI) is 160-165. I can still see my ribs at this weight when I suck it in. I guess this is usually why I prefer taller men. There's little chance I'll outweigh them. Plus, I like my curves and I find most men do too. I personally think it's silly to have any sort of scale. I think men are probably like women. As a rule we're mostly all attracted to someone who looks pretty fit and a few extra pounds don't usually matter. Of course, there are always people who demand a specific type. Plus, I find confidence in myself and my attractiveness can usually override that "extra 5-10" lbs some guys may think I have. Link to post Share on other sites
Leoni Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Yeah, she's curvy yet very thin. That's my point. You can't have a 23 inch waist and not be thin. In the video she also has thin arms and legs. The problem is most women don't have their fat naturally distributed in all the right places, so they look better at a lower weight. If they gain weight, they'll get a "pooch" or something else considered undesirable. It's rare to find somebody with an ideal, hour glass figure and no problem areas. "Curvy" has become synonymous with fuller figured, but truly "curvy" frames in the ideal sense are rare. Instead heavier women tend to look somewhat shapeless. I don't think perfection is necessary although someone like Jennifer Love Hewitt, is in bad shape, especially since she's a childless 28 years old. While everyone probably has a little cellulite, why allow it to overtake your body before you even hit 30 years old? Eat healthy, eat reasonable portions and exercise. It's not that difficult, as long as you're realistic about what your genetic composition is, including and especially your bone structure. Link to post Share on other sites
Pyro Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Well you know, it will make things easier. When in doubt: Ask Sunblast! Exactly. Hey, we've got to keep these meetings secret, you know! Just so there is no confusion. Link to post Share on other sites
Starry-eyed Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I went through that in sports. I'm going to be honest and say that kind of sounds like a body image problem... with a bit of an eating disorder! Only you know for sure... but I spent four years maintaining weight... I'd say a lot of the stuff I did was very unhealthy. That's what I was thinking. It sounds a lot like me and I'm working on recovery from an eating disorder. To the OP, it's really you and how you feel about yourself. Be the way you want to be and that feels good to you. Every guy is going to have his own taste. Accept yourself and know that you are much more than your body. Link to post Share on other sites
shadowplay Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Believe me, I don't have an eating disorder. How do I know? My eating habits don't interfere with my life. I don't obsess over food. I simply follow a flexible plan during the week to maintain my weight. Part of it is appearance, but a lot of it is also health. Studies show that people who live the longest are those who never gain more than ten pounds from when they were 18. I don't plan on ever letting myself go. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Believe me, I don't have an eating disorder. How do I know? My eating habits don't interfere with my life. I don't obsess over food. I simply follow a flexible plan during the week to maintain my weight. Part of it is appearance, but a lot of it is also health. Studies show that people who live the longest are those who never gain more than ten pounds from when they were 18. I don't plan on ever letting myself go. Just checking. You know we care! I used to work in research. SIR10 is a very important gene in regulating longevity. On the backend, it raises your chance for cancer! Link to post Share on other sites
shadowplay Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Just checking. You know we care! I used to work in research. SIR10 is a very important gene in regulating longevity. On the backend, it raises your chance for cancer! Thanks, you're a sweetheart, Cobra. Some other interesting correlations I've read about regarding longevity: People who were born when their mother was 23 or younger are more likely to have a long life. Also being born in certain months of the year is correlated with a longer life. Eating fewer calories than even what's considered "healthy" by the medical profession is linked with a longer life as long as the calories you do eat are highly nutritious. Resveratrol, the chemical found in grape skins and red wine, is linked with increased maximum life span in many animals across the animal kingdom. I've started taking resveratrol as a supplement. Link to post Share on other sites
Cobra_X30 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Eating fewer calories than even what's considered "healthy" by the medical profession is linked with a longer life as long as the calories you do eat are highly nutritious. That is Silent Information Regulator 10! It's triggered by calorie restriction. Increases your chances for cancer though. Man I could go on forever about this... I apologize for the threadjack! Link to post Share on other sites
norajane Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I don't think perfection is necessary although someone like Jennifer Love Hewitt, is in bad shape, especially since she's a childless 28 years old. While everyone probably has a little cellulite, why allow it to overtake your body before you even hit 30 years old? Eat healthy, eat reasonable portions and exercise. It's not that difficult, as long as you're realistic about what your genetic composition is, including and especially your bone structure. Cellulite is very much genetic. It's not about fat or not - even skinny people have cellulite because that's just the way their cells/fibers operate. Of course, it gets more apparent the fatter a person is, but you can't eat and exercise your way out of it, nor can you use creams to permanently get rid of it. The creams just plump your skin to make the cellulite less apparent, like wrinkle cream fills in the lines on your face and makes them look less apparent. Link to post Share on other sites
Leoni Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Cellulite is very much genetic. It's not about fat or not - even skinny people have cellulite because that's just the way their cells/fibers operate. Of course, it gets more apparent the fatter a person is, but you can't eat and exercise your way out of it, nor can you use creams to permanently get rid of it. The creams just plump your skin to make the cellulite less apparent, like wrinkle cream fills in the lines on your face and makes them look less apparent. While this is true to an extent, it's my understanding that if you keep a handle on it while leading a continuously healthy lifestyle, especially exercise and low-fat foods, amongst other things, that you can keep off the cellulite. Once you have it, it's almost impossible to get rid of, although in the case of JLH, you not only see cellulite, you see a very untoned body, particularly around the buttocks and below. She's got some serious saddle bags. It's worked for me quite well and I'm a childless 32. It doesn't mean I'm a stringent dieter because I've never dieted in my life. More a consistent body maintenance. Take care of your body and it will take care of you. Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Eating fewer calories than even what's considered "healthy" by the medical profession is linked with a longer life as long as the calories you do eat are highly nutritious. But the biggest advocate of this regime died before he turned 80... Link to post Share on other sites
shadowplay Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 But the biggest advocate of this regime died before he turned 80... True, but he died of a rare disease that calorie restriction slightly increases the chances of developing. As with anything else, you have to weigh risks against benefits. Link to post Share on other sites
burning 4 revenge Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 My preference : All I can say is wow! Uhm, no offense, but yuck Link to post Share on other sites
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