Trialbyfire Posted December 24, 2007 Share Posted December 24, 2007 Partisan!!! "viva le resistance!" I'll live to fight another day! You bet, that would be me. I'd (wo)man the cannons, if this was required! Old west slang, from a side by side double barrel shotgun would be the close combat weapon of choice. Instead of firing once and having a second shot in reserve you shoot both barrels at once hopefully doubleing the impact on target. Today with poker being shown on TV a similiar saying would be "all in". I'm teasing. I love westerns so I do know what it means. As for "all in", Texas Hold'em FTW!! Link to post Share on other sites
JamesM Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 How can you be guaranteed that you will live, if you surrender? Let me answer that.... There is a guarantee that I die if I don't surrender, and a chance that I will survive if I DO surrender. I think I know how she will answer this one. Link to post Share on other sites
Nemo Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 I think I know how she will answer this one. I think she's busy straddling a huge cannon. I hope she's able to handle the balls. Link to post Share on other sites
HokeyReligions Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 There was a game that we played at a party years ago. One of the questions was this: If you and your [loved one (spouse, child, whatever] knew that one of you must die and one would live and the way to determine which was which was that each of you were led into a dark room. The person who flipped on the light switch first would die. What would you do? My answer was that my hand would be reaching for the switch the second the door opened and before I even got inside. I value my life, but not above all others. My beliefs and ideals are what make me. My life would end if I denied them. My body may go on, but "I" wouldn't exist. I think the bigger question is would you send others to their death to protect a set of ideals or beliefs. Living with that decision would be a very difficult burden. Link to post Share on other sites
nittygritty Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 Yes but if I had to choose between Option A) Refusing to sign the paper and getting burn alive, hang, or whatever painful death and fight till the end Option B) Save myself being a hypocrite and thus living until I die of natural cause as an old lady (no dying young nor painful death involved) Obviously I would go for option B. I want to live the longest. No I don't rigdoubt I have the hts to not believe in what I don't but if it's between living a long life or dying young at age 20 due to my smart mouth then I would know better when to shut up. So to me first comes my life (I want to live as long as 100 years old and I would simply not let anyone take that away from me) and then comes my rights. I chose Option C) Everlasting life by believing in Jesus Christ as my savior. I would choose to be killed rather than deny my belief in God. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 Let me answer that.... There is a guarantee that I die if I don't surrender, and a chance that I will survive if I DO surrender. I think I know how she will answer this one. And an occupying force lives up to its guarantees of life, to civilians that surrender? Quality of life, after surrender, could be interesting, if the invading country decides to abide by its agreement. As far as guarantee of death, upon non-surrender, I don't agree (of course ). If all residents were to fight for one cause, instead of folding like cheap suits, there's no occupying force on this Earth that could withstand the numbers. Even if I die, if I don't surrender, better that than the quality of life that's certain to be brought by an occupying force. I love my country, as is... Link to post Share on other sites
shadowofman Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 Isn't fighting for your freedom different than fighting for your beliefs. I mean, I would fight for my right to live free and believe what I want, but I would also tell someone anything in order to avoid an immediate bullet in the head. Partisan!!! "viva le resistance!" I'll live to fight another day! Link to post Share on other sites
Nemo Posted December 25, 2007 Share Posted December 25, 2007 I think this thread demonstrates that the LS community isn't afraid to tackle the issues which really matter. Anonymously. And, of course, any references to people or places, real or fictional, is purely coincidental. By the way, if anyone asks, I wasn't here. Link to post Share on other sites
Author samsungxoxo Posted December 26, 2007 Author Share Posted December 26, 2007 How can you be guaranteed that you will live, if you surrender? Well it's a lot more likely that you will live if you surrender and do what you're told (off course I could then live alone as a hermit and no one would know I deceive them all to save my life, just me). Then on the other hand if I don't surrender and keep on fighting back or talking till the death, obviously there will be almost 100 percent chance of getting killed. Link to post Share on other sites
Author samsungxoxo Posted December 26, 2007 Author Share Posted December 26, 2007 I think the bigger question is would you send others to their death to protect a set of ideals or beliefs. Living with that decision would be a very difficult burden. Yea that's a hard one. I know I wouldn't ever want to put my beloved ones to death but at the same time I don't want to die either so I don't really know this one, I guess I would have to be in the position. Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted December 26, 2007 Share Posted December 26, 2007 Well it's a lot more likely that you will live if you surrender and do what you're told (off course I could then live alone as a hermit and no one would know I deceive them all to save my life, just me).All you have to do is refer to examples of such, in WW2. The Nazis and the Japanese slaughtered citizens wholesale. Then on the other hand if I don't surrender and keep on fighting back or talking till the death, obviously there will be almost 100 percent chance of getting killed. This isn't a guarantee, just like surrendering won't guarantee your life. Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Taylor Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 I think I would die for my 'religious' beliefs, but PLEASE let it be quick and painless.. death by torture; can one really say how one would deal with that? Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 So who thinks the Mel Gibson character in Braveheart was a dummy? Link to post Share on other sites
jerbear Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Isn't fighting for your freedom different than fighting for your beliefs. I mean, I would fight for my right to live free and believe what I want, but I would also tell someone anything in order to avoid an immediate bullet in the head. That is to live and fight another day. Freedom is a belief. It is free will versus command or forced beliefs. Freedom allows more free will to choose versus having a institution, i.e. society, groups, culture, government, religion; imposing its views, however subtle. These views are restrictions to freedom. Link to post Share on other sites
FleshNBones Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Well it's a lot more likely that you will live if you surrender and do what you're told (off course I could then live alone as a hermit and no one would know I deceive them all to save my life, just me). Then on the other hand if I don't surrender and keep on fighting back or talking till the death, obviously there will be almost 100 percent chance of getting killed.As a conqueror, I know my soldiers have certain needs. Are you willing to surrender under any condition? I can also dress you up as one of my soldiers and send you to the front lines. You either fight or die for my cause. Your daughters can work in my labor camps, and your boys can be refined into teenage psychopaths to kill for me. There is nothing like father vs. son on the battlefield. If there is a shortage of women in my country, I would ship you out and have you breed some more soldiers for me. What price are you willing to pay when you surrender? Do you know what the real cost is? How high a price is too high? Would you surrender to a dictator as evil as me? Would you know that I was evil? A Christian renouncing his faith is like him giving up his soul. Link to post Share on other sites
Author samsungxoxo Posted December 27, 2007 Author Share Posted December 27, 2007 A Christian renouncing his faith is like him giving up his soul. I'm not a christian, I'm an Atheist. Link to post Share on other sites
Moose Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I'm not a christian, I'm an Atheist.You've made that clear. He wasn't talking to or about you. Link to post Share on other sites
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