WWYD? My H called someone at 4:25 am!

[sarme]

I know all guys don't cheat, but it's hard to trust again after you have been betrayed by someone whom you shared 11 years w/, children, a home, etc.

If H and I don't make it in our M I'm in no hurry to find another man to get involved w/. My sister and SIL tried to get me fixed up w/ guys when H and I were first separated. One was a totally hottie, but I just wasn't interested. Even after my H tore my heart out and hurt me so badly I just wasn't ready to date.

 

 

 

 

I understand that, it must be so devestating after all that time. But a life next to someone who does not want to show you respect is not a good life either. That's not to say that he is cheating again maybe that call was nothing.

 

Every breakup is very hard you need a time and determination to get over it, but if you set your mind to it you do and then you always find happiness again. I think you didn't find that man appealing because it was too soon you weren't ready to date it takes a long time to open your heart up again.

[mopar crazy]

I understand that, it must be so devestating after all that time. But a life next to someone who does not want to show you respect is not a good life either. That's not to say that he is cheating again maybe that call was nothing.

 

Every breakup is very hard you need a time and determination to get over it, but if you set your mind to it you do and then you always find happiness again. I think you didn't find that man appealing because it was too soon you weren't ready to date it takes a long time to open your heart up again.

 

Oh, I agree, 100% but I guess I wanted to give the M one more try to see if it could survive his A. I don't know if you seen it but the call was nothing, it was a different line at work. He didn't recognize the # b/c it was in his contacts. He pushed in the # to call it right in front of me and it came up on his contacts as work. He said that was when we got a terrible blizzard and he wanted to call some co-workers in a that dept to inform them of the updated weather. I do remember that storm, b/c the kids didn't have school the following Monday.

I found that man appealing, VERY appealing but I just wasn't ready. Even though my H hurt me my heart was really still w/ him.

[Lyssa]

Could it be that he saved the number under "diff dept" but in actually fact, it was someone else? One of my ex-es who cheated on me, saved OW's numbers under guys' names etc.

[Havn_a_life]

but, i would have called the phone number, from his phone to see who it was.

I'd still call it, if I were you. Call his bluff.

If it is another number from his work, find out who has it, ask. I would.

[StillSame]

Something tells me you never really stopped checking up on him, how could you you can't trust him, so I would continue spying on him until you catch him again then you can confront him with proof.

 

Sarme, so, are you still working with your MM? Did you crossed the line into a PA?

 

I really hope you didn't. You will regret it for the rest of your life.

[Havn_a_life]

If MC's H has nothing to hide, he would encourage her to call the #, not challenge or bluff her.

[Havn_a_life]

The thing is, I could stay w/ him, try to trust him, or get a D and find someone new. Well, then there is that trust issue w/ the new guy.

 

My heart just fell when I read he made a phone call at 4:25 am. I had no idea why he would be calling someone at that time of the morning so naturally I think the worse.

 

I'm to the point where I'm pissed about it. Pissed at myself for not thinking how his A would effect me in the future if I took him back, and pissed at him for screwing around on me.

 

The thing is, has there been a habit of it or has this just started? Is it an isolated incident?

I'd keep watch to see if the # pops up on the bill again. If it does or doesn't, i keep up with it.

[mopar crazy]

The thing is, has there been a habit of it or has this just started? Is it an isolated incident?

I'd keep watch to see if the # pops up on the bill again. If it does or doesn't, i keep up with it.

 

I don't know, I haven't checked the cell phone bills in probably 2 years. This number was on there only one time.

 

He told me to call it. He said he had no idea who's number it was. Then he called it right in front of me and it came up the work phone. If he was really hiding it as a work # and it was an OW I'm sure he wouldn't have told me to call it b/c I just might.

[Havn_a_life]

I don't know, I haven't checked the cell phone bills in probably 2 years. This number was on there only one time.

 

He told me to call it. He said he had no idea who's number it was. Then he called it right in front of me and it came up the work phone. If he was really hiding it as a work # and it was an OW I'm sure he wouldn't have told me to call it b/c I just might.

 

I didn't know. Do you know who uses that work phone? man or woman?

Did he let you hear the person who answered the phone?

[mopar crazy]

He just dialed it and it came up the work number so he hung up, no one answered. It was in his contacts, he didn't know it was. I told him I was going to call it and he said wait until he gets there for his shift. I told him "Yea, but how do I know it's really work and your not as some whores house answering her phone?" He said to just call it. So hal, should I?

[sarme]

A part of me does agree w/ you, but a part of me does not. Getting out of the M is an option, but I think MC is going to be my first option b4 I decide what to do.

 

The part you wrote in the bold really struck a nerve. Have you experienced rape, childhood abandonment, or being a BW? You never know what they go through until you have walked in their shoes. If you have and "gotten over it" then that is great, I'm glad that you could get over something so traumatic.

 

Ya know what I find funny about all this sarme? You are an OW. With your looks there is no way you can't find a SG.

 

Hey I am not telling you get out of your marriage who am I to tell you that, what I told you was that if 5yrs post A you are still snooping around looking for clues to see if your man is cheating you prob don't have a very solid recovery and chances are you prob won't leave him again even if you do catch him so just look the other way and stop stressing over what the # is. Enjoy what you do get from him and look the other way.

 

No I was never raped or abandoned but my best friend was at a very young age and she got over it and is married and she and her hubby are totally in love and just had a baby and she has no trust issues today, we talk a lot. My first boyfriend was raped when he was a boy and he didn't have trust issues either. People do get over abandonment and rape, it's all about what you set to conquer for yourself you can be a victim your whole life of you can take charge of it.

 

And no I was never a BW but I know that if I were I would walk. How do I know that? The same way you know that if you had to give an organ and risk your own life to save a child's life, you would. Some things you just know how you would act because you know yourself that well.

 

 

I am not an OW, my b/f and I met while he was married and our affair was brief because he left so that we could be together porperly.

Lastly what did you expect me to look like because I was an OW?

 

OW don't set out to be OW because we look like "dogs" I never woke up one day and "said I can't get a single guy so I'll become an OW" That is the misconception I keep seeing here over and over again that because a woman is an OW she must be a troll. Sorry to dissapoint.

 

If a man risks losing everything he has already with a good quality woman and a good life, why would he risk all that for a troll? Men aren't stupid, they may lie and deceive but they are not stupid. The ones that do lose it all for a troll were really really dumb or they must have wanted out of the marriage so bad bad that they took the first charter flight out, they just wanted to get the heck out of town and fast.

 

I didn't end up with my man because I couldn't get single guys, what stupid concept. I ended up with him because I fell for him like no other man and he with me.

[StillSame]

my b/f and I met while he was married and our affair was brief because he left so that we could be together porperly.

 

You do know that your "relationship" with your bf will always be tainted and unclean, right? You know deep down, that you broke up a marriage, no matter how you twist the truth and trying to make yourself feel better. The fact remained, you had an affair with a married man.

[sarme]

You do know that your "relationship" with your bf will always be tainted and unclean, right? You know deep down, that you broke up a marriage, no matter how you twist the truth and trying to make yourself feel better. The fact remained, you had an affair with a married man.

 

I am well aware that I had an affair with a married man and I have completely come to terms with that. It is a known fact of my existence.

 

I didn't break up a marriage, they broke up their marriage. His marriage was broken before we even met, he knows this I know this, his exW knows this. That is what I go by not the judgement of those who are looking from the outside in.

 

And I most certainly don't feel like my relationship is tainted because of that. Their relationship didn't work out which is why his heart was open to falling in love with someone else. I certainly don't expect you to understand it or approve of it nor do I want anyone's approval. My life is mine and I am confortable with my choices, but I do understand it is not accepted by others.

[mopar crazy]

Hey I am not telling you get out of your marriage who am I to tell you that, what I told you was that if 5yrs post A you are still snooping around looking for clues to see if your man is cheating you prob don't have a very solid recovery and chances are you prob won't leave him again even if you do catch him so just look the other way and stop stressing over what the # is. Enjoy what you do get from him and look the other way.

 

No I was never raped or abandoned but my best friend was at a very young age and she got over it and is married and she and her hubby are totally in love and just had a baby and she has no trust issues today, we talk a lot. My first boyfriend was raped when he was a boy and he didn't have trust issues either. People do get over abandonment and rape, it's all about what you set to conquer for yourself you can be a victim your whole life of you can take charge of it.

 

And no I was never a BW but I know that if I were I would walk. How do I know that? The same way you know that if you had to give an organ and risk your own life to save a child's life, you would. Some things you just know how you would act because you know yourself that well.

 

 

I am not an OW, my b/f and I met while he was married and our affair was brief because he left so that we could be together porperly.

Lastly what did you expect me to look like because I was an OW?

 

OW don't set out to be OW because we look like "dogs" I never woke up one day and "said I can't get a single guy so I'll become an OW" That is the misconception I keep seeing here over and over again that because a woman is an OW she must be a troll. Sorry to dissapoint.

 

If a man risks losing everything he has already with a good quality woman and a good life, why would he risk all that for a troll? Men aren't stupid, they may lie and deceive but they are not stupid. The ones that do lose it all for a troll were really really dumb or they must have wanted out of the marriage so bad bad that they took the first charter flight out, they just wanted to get the heck out of town and fast.

 

I didn't end up with my man because I couldn't get single guys, what stupid concept. I ended up with him because I fell for him like no other man and he with me.

I'm sorry that your friends went through such an awful thing, it is sad. I am glad that they are leading a normal, adult life and are happy.

 

Ya know, I never thought my H would have an A. I don't think any person goes into a M worrying and not trusting their spouse will cheat on them. If I felt that way about my H I would have never M him. However, I did tell myself, and him, that if he ever did cheat on me that would be the last straw, I would D him as fast as his head could spin. At the time I trusted him 110%, never thought he would cheat and then he did. Well, I did take him back after 6 months of being separated so I guess me saying I would never take him back went out the window. Ya don't know if you will take a cheating spouse back until it happens. Even my dad said if my mom ever had an A he wouldn't know if he would take her back or not and they have been M 50 years.

 

I'm not continuing to check and snoop on my H. Like I said in my first post I haven't looked at the cell bill in 2 years. If I was still worried about him cheating I would be checking the cell every month, his phone, following him every where he goes just to see if he was cheating. I'm not doing that. Other than finding that odd call he has shown no signs of cheating, and I haven't been snooping either. However, if he does start showing signs and I find out for sure he is cheating I WILL leave him. I wont deal w/ that crap again. I tried working on the M the first time, I wont the second.

 

I never assume an OW is a dog, ever. I was an OW to a man in a CR a couple of times and I'm hardly a troll. However, I was young, stupid, and selfish b/c I didn't care he had a SR, I wanted him. However, a MM was off limits to me, I was NOT going down that road. A friend of mine did and we all disagreed w/ what she was doing.

 

When WWIU pointed out your picture and how pretty you are I just thought why did you have to go out w/ a MM when you could get any SG you wanted, why a MM? I don't know your story so I apologize. If he left his BW to be w/ you then that is great for you but too bad for the BW. I hope she finds someone who will be faithful to her.

[OWoman]

You are an OW. With your looks there is no way you can't find a SG.

 

What an bizarre comment! Do you think all OWs are dogs? Do you think we "settle" for MMs because we can't get SGs? What a joke! Many of us are fighting off SGs all the time, but we're not interested because we've found someone much better in our MM. If SGs were such a prize, why aren't MW dumping their Hs in their droves to take up with SGs? Or do they realise that the guys are single for a reason, but expect use to be satisfied with second bests while they enjoy first prize?

 

(And before anyone takes that last bit too seriously - there are PLENTY of MM I wouldn't touch either: it's the man, not the ring, does it for me.)

[Havn_a_life]

He just dialed it and it came up the work number so he hung up, no one answered. It was in his contacts, he didn't know it was. I told him I was going to call it and he said wait until he gets there for his shift. I told him "Yea, but how do I know it's really work and your not as some whores house answering her phone?" He said to just call it. So hal, should I?

 

Why do you have to wait till he's at work?

That's just send up way too many red flags to me.

I'd wait till he's at home and call it, on his phone.

He's not gonna be at your side every moment he's home.

 

He's bluffing you and it's BS that he wants you to wait till he gets to work.

H has never told me that. He's always wanted me to call it. You said he did call the # and there was no answer. maybe by now he's talked to the owner of that # and prepped them on expecting your call.

I'd not say another word about the #, then call it on my own, without him knowing.

If there's no answer, keep trying it from time to time till you do find out who it belongs to.

H's xOW did me that way. He knew who her # belonged to and even watched me dial it. She of course didn't answer, our # was a public one, so it showed up on her ID.

 

I just see red flags, and if it turns out to be legit, atleast you know, and you shouldn't feel embarrassed if he's being honest.

He cheated, not you. Let him earn your trust the hard way. Even if the A ended yrs ago.

He doesn't seem to have done a whole lot to make things right enough for you to feel trust for him in the last yrs.

JMO

[Havn_a_life]

What an bizarre comment! Do you think all OWs are dogs? Do you think we "settle" for MMs because we can't get SGs? What a joke! Many of us are fighting off SGs all the time, but we're not interested because we've found someone much better in our MM. If SGs were such a prize, why aren't MW dumping their Hs in their droves to take up with SGs? Or do they realise that the guys are single for a reason, but expect use to be satisfied with second bests while they enjoy first prize?

 

(And before anyone takes that last bit too seriously - there are PLENTY of MM I wouldn't touch either: it's the man, not the ring, does it for me.)[/quote]

 

LMAO That was the bizarre comment!

Yeah, I'm sure the BW could say the same thing! That's why she M him.

[SerenityX2]

I am well aware that I had an affair with a married man and I have completely come to terms with that. It is a known fact of my existence.

 

I didn't break up a marriage, they broke up their marriage. His marriage was broken before we even met, he knows this I know this, his exW knows this. That is what I go by not the judgement of those who are looking from the outside in.

 

And I most certainly don't feel like my relationship is tainted because of that. Their relationship didn't work out which is why his heart was open to falling in love with someone else. I certainly don't expect you to understand it or approve of it nor do I want anyone's approval. My life is mine and I am confortable with my choices, but I do understand it is not accepted by others.

 

OP stick with me...I have some insight for you if it helps..but first I have to get this off my chest to Sarme.

 

I'd really like to know how you feel you had no part in breaking up a marriage?! Actually I don't want/expect a reply you'll just spin more of your defenses and backpeddling anyway. You have stated clearly in previous posts how "sick to your stomach you felt" etc...and then how you gave him an ultimatum of either he leaves now or lose you forever...words to that effect....so reality check...you DID help break up that marriage. If you don't come to terms with that soon..it will haunt you..life and the way it plays out is funny that way.

 

Sorry but I need to get it out there that there are MANY that probably agree your "man" is no honorable "wonderful" man that you make him out to be...otherwise he would have done the honorable thing in leaving first. The bottom line is you knew/felt it was wrong but you proceeded anyway. I think in your heart you may already know that or you two wouldn't be in counseling to not "repeat" the same mistakes. Maybe one day in the future you will accept what many on here are telling you...b/c the more you try to deny truth and facts...the more they will come and bite you on the a$$. Another one of life's delightful tricks. I'm more frustrated in your cavalier attitude that you stepped on another human being to get what you wanted...regardless of how broken you were told that M was.

 

So I don't mean to come about as harsh...my message to you is simply this... you are right...it's your life you are the only one that for now that you need to answer to and feel comfortable w/your choices...but one day you will need to answer to God...you need to think about that. If you say you don't believe etc etc...then I guess I'd have to pose the q why you want to marry your b/f then...b/c who's eyes are you marrying under? People seem to forget that. Take God out of the equation when it doesn't matter and lifes choices don't match up...but oh my, bring him back when there's a time of crisis....sad really...all of the misconceptions.

 

Lastly, I am not "stalking" you....I came on here b/c I am currently studying for my RN and am dealing w/pts that are dealing w/cheating issues...getting the snuff beat out of them...and was trying to get some insight on what goes on in ppls minds....nursing is 1/2 teaching as I'm learing...I'm also learning that OW are extremely defensive...I'd take that to mean they really aren't okay with their choices..but what to appear to the rest of the world that they are.

 

OP...I am sorry for that outburst...I agree you should try MC first...from what you are describing it seems like he was just a one time "cheat" In my first marriage...you name it, I went through it. My exH is a serial cheater...however since he is a private detective...it was darn hard to prove! The first time I had found a picture...and since I always had to be a "barbie doll" for him...at first I thought it was me..but then I thought...I don't have an orange bikini...and I don't remember posing like that! Turns out it wasn't me...(duh!) but a "younger" version of me (only by 5 years I was 27!) Anyway he lied and told me it was a client's W...about a month later I would catch him on the phone in a diff rm talking "sweetly" so I knew that it was a female..event. I busted him with phone records to...my first reaction was to get out....however he begged me to stay told me she didn't mean anything etc...so I stayed for the sake of the marriage (and I too always believed I would walk imm..but you really don't know until faced with X)...it was HARD...for the next 4 mos I would have flashes of them tog...and he would console me by saying that no, he doesn't want anyone else... noone could hold a candle to me(you know all the usual b.s)...he further told me that he thought it was just going to be this friendship with her..she was a model so he wasn't interested in that mindsight....so I stayed...we had just put the M back together and things were going "well" (for what I thought well was...in my current M it's a night and day diff) then I got pregnant...well he flipped b/c he is a narcisstic control freak...this wasn't the right time blah blah...he flipped out...this is when the verbal abuse (small put downs things like that) started to get physical..but not so that I had black and blue marks (stuff like hard shoves throwing things at me) I should have packed up and left then and there...but I started to think what if he was just freaking out about being a dad (stupid I know now) anyway I stayed for another year...I left just shy of my son's 1st birthday...and I gathered proof of yet another affair b/c orig while preg, he accused me of being f'ing shallow if I thought he was having an affair I can imagine what he was telling the OW..who btw only lasted 6yrs after I left....I left 14 years ago...so also sorry to disappoint if someone wants to think I am a BS...far from it...in fact I would not trade the path I had to take, pain and all...if that's how I had to be shaped and molded into who I am...and to have met my husband...I am so much stronger/grounded more appreciative for everything in life.

 

I do get sickened now when I think that I was with his shallow type. We met when I was 19..and married when I was 23 he was 30. He's very materialistic...he has all the "toys"...I walked from the house, w/the pool and jacuzzi ....a good deal of the furniture...he bothered to put his stupid vette in his mom's name so I wouldn't take it like I cared about a car that attracted shallow bimbos anyway I was told I could have taken him for so much more...all I cared about was the child support...and he ended up buying me a 1993 car...so basically he got out of that marriage pretty damn cheap...16,000 I believe...but I have my dignity...and the knowledge that I did things the right way....I wanted to be able to look at myself in the mirror...it wasn't about money...my husband and I have so much less materially now...but so much MORE where it counts and truly matters...we do have peace...he is still miserable and "searching" b/c his type always will be...he will always search to fill that hole that is deep inside him...it's sad I wish him happiness now (b/c that's what we owe each other on this planet is kindness and forgiveness)...but he will never be happy b/c he searches for happiness in ppl and possessions...doesn't work that way. Happiness is from within...in current state...not a matter of..."if I had this or that I'd be happy"....and nobody is delirously happy all the time...life has ups and downs...the downs mold you...but downs should be faced together if you are M...not against each other....but sadly this disposable society is molding some ppl into if you are not happy RIGHT NOW...move on...go find what will MAKE you happy no matter who you step on or what it costs..and that's wrong....you'll always be searching b/c you will tire of whatever it is that first made you happy...and will want more and more...Living Life is made up of laughter (much) stuggles and tears (all part of growing..what fun would life be if it was a constant "high" on all levels?...pretty boring and you'd never learn anything...or have compassion...but if M...again you should have a partner to walk with you and face it all together.

 

Okay...so my point is...I think it would have surfaced by now if you H was...but trust is paramount in a r'ship...built from communication...so if you two can't do that on your own...MC may help you get a footing.

 

If you do decide that the trust is shattered though...God doesn't want you to live in pain...that's not what he created M for. You will know if it's the right decision to stay or leave...you will have a feeling of peace over your decision...it may not come right away...so if you do...there is life...and it can be better than you even imagined...it is for me.

 

My husband now...is more than I could have dreamed for myself and same for him...mainly we say b/c this time around (his exW had an A too...and neither my husband or I would/could ever do that) we consulted God's plan..what path he wanted us on...so we met and we knew imm that this was meant to be...and really and truly it gets better every day...however we work on feeding and nurturing the r'ship...always. I never dreamed I could find someone that could ignite my passion (I met SG's that didn't see beyond the surface to my soul) but still feel so calm and peaceful...that's how I know it's right....that's my advice to know if something is right...there's no, "what does this or that mean?" or emotional upheavels about each other...we have life problems (financial...tough w/me in school full time right now and nursing school in general is a walk through hades sometimes...but it's only 2yrs) but we stand united in what we face...and it makes a world of difference...and I've always said about my M that it's an "easiness..fused with an absolute electricty"

 

Sorry so long..but I feel for you...it's miserable to have to "check up" ...I remember those days of checking the pager..looking at receipts etc... and it sucked...my point also is though I'm no advocate for divorce unless it can't be helped...there is "life after" out there...I'm happier than I ever would have been with my ex.

 

I really do like to try to help people...I think that's why we go through certain life experiences..to help others...I'm saddned by this whole site though...it seems I'm in a minority of truly happy/passionate M's...but I also think that many ppl who are happy don't have the need to post on message boards...they're just happy living life as I am...until like I said I wanted to help get some insight and I've been on break for the last 2 weeks...I don't think I'll be sticking around though...There's much negativity on these boards and that's sad...life's much too short to have a toxic environment....I guess my other main point for whoever cares to read my novel is happy marriages do exist...not all ppl cheat...my husband and I will never...that may be hard to understand to some but some things you just know....it's hard to explain intangible things like that but there is no doubt...no insecurity...there is complete and honest trust stemming from the communication, we can't get enough of each other on every level, and it keeps growing every day...we throughly enjoy being with each other as much as possible and it shows...we get comments from friends and yes even strangers approach us of the "vibe" we give off and the love that ppl can just see...so I know it's not all in my/his head. I even read a comment here that a sign that 2 ppl are having an affair is their knees are touching!!! LOL....We always sit like that...my H in general is a very tactile person...my I AM writing a novel!!! I'm sorry but I get sooo ticked off when I read there are no good marriages anymore...I feel like that Dr Suess cartoon in whoville "we are here ..we are here...we are here!!!!!" lol Motor if I can give you anymore details let me know...I think you just need to work on the comm....Good luck...you're in my prayers.

[sarme]

Dear Serenity:

 

 

 

If you are studying to be a nurse and half your job is teaching the other half should be learning to listen because one of the best qualities an RN should possess is avid listening skills and compassio .To become another heartless biiiitch of a nurse that goes around the rooms like the wife of Hitler making an already bad situation for a loved one who is worried about the patient in question, even worse, the world has far too many of those alreadyout there.

 

 

 

Also hun, if you ask questions don't preempt the chance of a person answering with "and don't bother answering because you'll just make excuses" because then you have absolutely nothing to learn. If you know so much and have nothing to learn then don't ask any questions.

 

 

 

But here is my response anyway if you choose to listen.

 

 

 

 

 

I'd really like to know how you feel you had no part in breaking up a marriage?

 

 

 

The marriage was in it's last legs when we met, it was going to end regardless. Meeting me just made it easier to take the plunge and knowing there was someone out there waiting for him when he did, just made the transition a lot less painful for him. Being someone's extra push in terms of courage does not mean I broke them up I just gave him incentive to want to take the risk. Should he have done it on his own and without the affair, of course he should but we cannot help we fell deeply inlove for each other and that is the bottom line.

 

 

 

We are in therapy because we have issues we are dealing with because of how we met, we had to put all of our preconceived notions on how to go about entering a new relationship and we had to re-write new terms in order to accomodate this new experience that neither one of us has had experience with. It is a lot easier to do it with the guidance of a professional than to try to do it on our own I mean seriously how many people can you turn to on how to deal with our particular situation that could guide us from experience? Not that many, if at all. So we want to do things right and do what's best for us, taking into account what we have to work with. We are serious and committed to make it work, how is that in any way or form to be looked down upon?

 

 

 

I don't expect you to understand because in your world of expriences you cannot empathise with this situation, nor do I care if you. But just because you don't understand something because you have never expreinced it doesn't mean you have to brush it off as purely evil and that's that.

 

Of course you are entitled to do what you want, but huney with that superiorioty complex of an attitude as a nurse, you will not go far, you will be disliked by many but you will not stand out at all.

 

 

 

To answer the GOD questions and marriage, I plan to marry in a nondnominational setting because I am not of any religious faith in my adult life, so spare me the catholic guilt trip routine it may have worked for you when your parents told you to stay virgin because god will not accpet you into his kingdom, but it does nothing for me. It's passee and I am totally unaffected by you and "your god's" judgements" . God also says you should not condemn or pass judgement on thy neighbour, he is the only one who can judge, I guess you must feel pretty godlike to take on his role? Typical of a nurse actually.....I see they teach you well. LOL

 

 

 

Personally I don't feel judged by god, I feel quite blessed as a matter of fact. My spriritual relationship is with my soul not some imaginary being that watches over my every move like a hawk. It's too bad you feel you need to live your life in fear of god in order to do the right things, I do the right things because my conscience tells me to, and I also make mistakes because I don't listen to my conscience but I live for my decisions not the decisions that are ruled by some fictional character that exists nowhere that tells me "do this or else you will go to hell" If I were into fairytales I would definitely wait for my gienie in a bottle to appear and I'd rub it a few times and have all my dreams come true.

 

My first dream would be that nurses had less of an attitude and learned more from the real stars of the show "the doctors themselves" that honey gets a lot more bees, anyday.

[Havn_a_life]

I think Serenity made some wonderful observations and gave Mopar some really helpful advice.

 

Good girl, Serenity, and for the matter of b*itchy nurses, I've never come across one yet.

You (Sarme) may live in a stressful community/city/town.

[SerenityX2]

I think Serenity made some wonderful observations and gave Mopar some really helpful advice.

 

Good girl, Serenity, and for the matter of b*itchy nurses, I've never come across one yet.

You (Sarme) may live in a stressful community/city/town.

 

Thanks havnlife...but I ain't sticking around...this place is a serious downer...no wonder there are so many unhappy ppl on here.

 

I can't believe how my posts got construed into bible thumping diatribes and how I became a superior beyotch.

 

This place makes me sick...I thought I could help...I'm wrong...I'll stick to to things IRL.

[stampdaddy]

He just dialed it and it came up the work number so he hung up, no one answered. It was in his contacts, he didn't know it was. I told him I was going to call it and he said wait until he gets there for his shift. I told him "Yea, but how do I know it's really work and your not as some whores house answering her phone?" He said to just call it. So hal, should I?

give ME the number and I will call it and get back to you..... serious about that:cool:

[mopar crazy]

What an bizarre comment! Do you think all OWs are dogs? Do you think we "settle" for MMs because we can't get SGs? What a joke! Many of us are fighting off SGs all the time, but we're not interested because we've found someone much better in our MM. If SGs were such a prize, why aren't MW dumping their Hs in their droves to take up with SGs? Or do they realise that the guys are single for a reason, but expect use to be satisfied with second bests while they enjoy first prize?

 

(And before anyone takes that last bit too seriously - there are PLENTY of MM I wouldn't touch either: it's the man, not the ring, does it for me.)

 

Ummmm, didn't you read my reply to sarme? If not, I said I don't think all OW are dogs. I don't think you settle for MM b/c you can't get SG. I wont go into why you fall for MM b/c we all know what you are going to say "You can't help who you fall in love with" crap.

When I was single I met a wonderful MM. I really liked him but when I found out he was M I told him to go to hell and never seen him again.

 

The part in bold was hilarious!!! Do you think EVERYONE is a cheater and not happily M? SG are single for a reason, they either are total *********s, they haven't found someone they want to spend the rest of their lives w/, or they just aren't ready for M yet. ALL SG aren't M b/c they are worthless POS. Guess you're area is full of bunch of ugly, loser SG huh?

 

 

Thanks serenity for you words of advice. I'm glad you find happiness w/ your new H. GL w/ your studies! I have a friend who is studying to be an RN. And I have met some real bitchy nurses in my life time so they are out there.

[mopar crazy]

give ME the number and I will call it and get back to you..... serious about that:cool:

 

LOL!!! Thanks but that is ok, I will call it. In fact I think I will call it now, from H's phone.

[mopar crazy]

Ok, I called it, and it was H's work. I told him I wanted to call it and so he handed me his cell. It was a guy that answered, I asked him who I was speaking to and he said his name. I apologized and said I got a wrong #. After I got off the phone H said "Let me guess, it was R or B, right?" He was right. Ok, I admit, I freaked out for nothing.