Touche Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I'm not. But it's ok with me if you think of me that way. It's fortunate that there are other packages that matter almost as much. What kind of other packages? Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 What kind of other packages? I have a nice smile, and I know how to make lasagna. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I have a nice smile, and I know how to make lasagna. Oh. I could say the same about my sister. Link to post Share on other sites
johan Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I have to emphasize my good points, whatever they happen to be. Link to post Share on other sites
Touche Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I have to emphasize my good points, whatever they happen to be. I know. I was just messing with you. Link to post Share on other sites
Jilly Bean Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 It's fortunate that there are other packages that matter almost as much. Who am I to quibble over a few (better) placed inches? Particularly with that sweet breath you have... Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGuy Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Ok I think I am getting a clearer picture here. You are 5'8" which is taller than most women. In order for you to feel petite (ie: sexy) you need a big man. One who can easily pick you up. I think this goes back to what I was saying earlier. It's not how a man looks that attracts a woman in the long run for a LTR, it's how he makes her feel. And if he's much larger than her, especially if she is tall, he makes her feel more petite. How does this work in relation to short women requiring tall men? Am I on track with that? Just trying to get a better understanding behind the logic of height requirements. Looks can make you feel a certain way. You can be as friendly as you want, if you don't have the friendly face, people will feel awkward around you. If a so-so girl would tell me she's absolutely crazy about me I would take it as a compliment. If a knock-out would tell me she thinks I'm 'somewhat cute' I'd get all tingley inside. As for men's height, and why already petite women would still want a tall guy, I think not only the way the guy compares to the girl counts, but also the way the guy compares to other men. It's like I said before: Guys with little hands can still like girls with big breasts. Ugly men still find gorgeous women attractive. We all want the 'best', not 'slightly better than myself'. PS: I'm not saying that having big breasts or being tall is 'the best' but they are supranormal stimulants. Link to post Share on other sites
CaliGuy Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Looks can make you feel a certain way. You can be as friendly as you want, if you don't have the friendly face, people will feel awkward around you. Not sure I understand. If you smile a lot, isn't that considered a friendly face? That would just take an attitude change, correct? If a so-so girl would tell me she's absolutely crazy about me I would take it as a compliment. If a knock-out would tell me she thinks I'm 'somewhat cute' I'd get all tingley inside. Somehow I don't think a knock-out telling me I am "somewhat cute" wouldn't have any bearing on me what-so-ever. Maybe it's because to me, looks come secondary to WHO the person is. I don't care if she's a knock out if she has a less than attractive personality. Maybe it's because I don't put too much stake in what other's perception of me is. As for men's height, and why already petite women would still want a tall guy, I think not only the way the guy compares to the girl counts, but also the way the guy compares to other men. It's like I said before: Guys with little hands can still like girls with big breasts. Ugly men still find gorgeous women attractive. We all want the 'best', not 'slightly better than myself'. I guess that has never made sense to me. If you're tiny and you need a guy who's extremely tall, doesn't that sort of indicate you're insecure about your own height? That you need someone that big to make you feel secure? And why does height = secure? Again, I don't think height is an accurate measure of who is better prepared to "protect" a woman. Then again, my brain works in logic and relationships are never based on logic. Attraction, in and of itself, is illogical. (Thank you Mr. Spoc) PS: I'm not saying that having big breasts or being tall is 'the best' but they are supranormal stimulants. See though, I've never judged a woman based on height or breast size either. It never seemed to matter to me. Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGuy Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Not sure I understand. If you smile a lot, isn't that considered a friendly face? That would just take an attitude change, correct? Some people are very friendly and smile all the time but just have a unpleasant, 'angry', face. Somehow I don't think a knock-out telling me I am "somewhat cute" wouldn't have any bearing on me what-so-ever. Maybe it's because to me, looks come secondary to WHO the person is. I don't care if she's a knock out if she has a less than attractive personality. Maybe it's because I don't put too much stake in what other's perception of me is. To me it counts, it's just the way it is. I'm not saying that I would date her if she had a bad personality but the fact that she's hot herself makes her gives her statement more value. It's shallow, I know, but I'm not going to lie about it. I guess that has never made sense to me. If you're tiny and you need a guy who's extremely tall, doesn't that sort of indicate you're insecure about your own height? That you need someone that big to make you feel secure? And why does height = secure? Again, I don't think height is an accurate measure of who is better prepared to "protect" a woman. Then again, my brain works in logic and relationships are never based on logic. Attraction, in and of itself, is illogical. (Thank you Mr. Spoc) Again, it's not about security. If you like short men, that doesn't make you a more secure person, that's just what you find appealing. In general women like tall because it's considered masculine, like a deep voice, like big hands, like big muscles, like a broad jaw, like thin lips, like broad shoulders... And some women will prefer men who have these traits, the more distinct the better. Yes, it makes them feel feminine, because the way you feel in a relationship is important. Again, if you don't care for all that you should have no problems with dating someone of the same sex, after all it's just the outside. See though, I've never judged a woman based on height or breast size either. It never seemed to matter to me. I don't care about that stuff either, but I understand if others do. It's their choice and if they feel they can't be with somebody because of that single aspect...so be it. Link to post Share on other sites
starlite Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Ok I think I am getting a clearer picture here. You are 5'8" which is taller than most women. In order for you to feel petite (ie: sexy) you need a big man. One who can easily pick you up. I think this goes back to what I was saying earlier. It's not how a man looks that attracts a woman in the long run for a LTR, it's how he makes her feel. And if he's much larger than her, especially if she is tall, he makes her feel more petite. How does this work in relation to short women requiring tall men? Am I on track with that? Just trying to get a better understanding behind the logic of height requirements. Well, normally your physical attraction is what comes first...so if I met a man that was much shorter than me good chance I would be all set and not even give it a chance. Feeling good about ones self is very important, and for me yes, I like to feel petit, it is sexier, cuter or what not. BUT!!!! My problem is that I have been getting to know this man via emails, so when we meet I already have a foundation with him and therefore I am praying that no matter how tall he is, it doesnt effect what i am already feeling. It is hard to say I guess. When I was 15 I broke up with someone because he was too short for me. Made me feel oaffie. So...i guess to answer your question is it does matter how you feel in a relationship. Sex and the City...Miranda goes on a date with a GORGEOUS man...she notices all the women starring and thinks to herself "They are all wondering what he see's in me"...she feels unattractive in comparison and cant date him. Link to post Share on other sites
starlite Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 How does this work in relation to short women requiring tall men? . And I dont know how that works in relation to short women, because I am not a short woman. Link to post Share on other sites
starlite Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 As for men's height, and why already petite women would still want a tall guy, I think not only the way the guy compares to the girl counts, but also the way the guy compares to other men. . Hi- I am 5'8" which when I throw on a pair of heels (which is often) makes me like 5'11". Anyway, I could care less how the man I am with compares to other men. All that really matters if that I like the way he looks...AND I like the way I feel with him. Link to post Share on other sites
Art_Critic Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 When I was 15 I broke up with someone because he was too short for me. Made me feel oaffie. Hi- I am 5'8" which when I throw on a pair of heels (which is often) makes me like 5'11". You do realize that if you dump a guy because you don't like how you feel when you wear 3 inch heels around him or you dump a guy because you think that he isn't tall enough for you that you are really cutting your available men down to almost nothing.. therefore making it much harder to find someone to connect with on other levels.. That is no different than if I said I will only date a red head.. or a blonde If I only date red heads while I have that right to do so.. I also shrink my dating pool of available women to nothing and will then spend many nights alone.. I also would think I then lose the right to bitch that there aren't any available women out there because there are.. but I'm being too superficial and it is keeping me from having a good relationship with someone else.. Some people call dating out of your norm compromise.. some call it settling...Whatever it is called it is okay to do... Link to post Share on other sites
DutchGuy Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 (edited) Hi- I am 5'8" which when I throw on a pair of heels (which is often) makes me like 5'11". Anyway, I could care less how the man I am with compares to other men. All that really matters if that I like the way he looks...AND I like the way I feel with him. Well, the theory can still be valid. You're tall yourself, so the way the guy compares to you outweighs the way the guy compares to others. Because if he's tall in comparison to other men, it means he's definitely tall compared to you, which would be perfect (since you prefer that). For petite women though, lots of men are tall and I imagine that these women define tallness by comparing to other men. Although not everybody may agree, we are animals and we select our partners on criteria that are pretty unromantic. To simplify it: Beauty = health = healthy offspring. Nice personality = good marriage/good parent = healthy offspring. We all want 'the best' partner because we want 'the best' offspring. 'The best' is always in comparison with others (including oneself). This is our animal-like motivation, not everybody has it equally strong and it is not as black and white as I put it. Anyway, tallness is a sign of health and strength. Women are prewired to look for tall men. Cliches like 'rich', 'status', 'nice personality', 'strong' and 'charming' all count as flags for women to select their partner. Because their instinct tells them these are the men that give healthy offspring (even if they don't wish to have children, these are the men they feel attracted to). Men generally look for women that are feminine, motherly, curvy... I even heard that blondes look healthier in general. Same purpose, same goal... offspring. Feminine and curvy appearance equal health and motherly nature ensures the safe upbringing of the kids (and you can argue that men need to be mothered in a partnership). Most people can't find everything in one person but that's alright as long as he/she has enough other positives. Ofcourse looking for some sort of perfect partner will take forever and that won't lead to offspring at all . So there you have it, we like nice, healthy partners and select them by comparing them to others. This story has become way too long and I apologise I strayed too far. Edited January 17, 2008 by DutchGuy Link to post Share on other sites
starlite Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 You do realize that if you dump a guy because you don't like how you feel when you wear 3 inch heels around him or you dump a guy because you think that he isn't tall enough for you that you are really cutting your available men down to almost nothing.. therefore making it much harder to find someone to connect with on other levels.. Well, honestly when I go out to bars or wherever I dont tend to be all that much taller than most the men in my area. Maybe it is a Massachusetts thing, but there are few that I pass by that are shorter. (Unless I maybe dont see them down there ) I guess it may cut my dating pool, but I dont find it exactly the same as a hair color preference. I prefer dark hair on a man, my last bf who I was with for over 2 years was so blonde it looked almost white...it didnt phase me....where as when it comes to my height issue a shorter guy may actually make me feel large...although I am only 5'8" and 125lbs. See what I mean... But when it comes down to it...everyone has their own preference. Link to post Share on other sites
yumi Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I remember how happy I was when I got old enough that my mother would allow me to wear high heels. I was (and is) very short and I was embarrassed when I was a child and all my friends grew taller than me. When I turned 15 years old I got my first shoes with high heels and it made me feel so tall. Now I always wear as high heels as possible without losing balance and my boyfriend likes it because he says he doesn't have to look down as much when he's talking to me. I imagine it's worse for short boys, since there are no high heels for men. Link to post Share on other sites
Jilly Bean Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 I imagine it's worse for short boys, since there are no high heels for men. Oh, I dunno. The drag queen circuit is always a popular option... Link to post Share on other sites
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