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makemyblackrosesred

There is this guy who I flirt with all the time and vice/versa. He stares at me constantly, has an obsession with my name, introduces me to people he knows I know just to be funny, and always has a smirk on his face. It seems are relationship is one big joke. The only problem is with all this flirting, he can get really nasty. Just plain mean to me! I usually ignore it and tell myself that the only reason he is being like that is because he has feelings for me. Although, he plays cat and mouse and has a severe peter pan complex, I wonder why I give in to it. I mean aren't I suppose to be the one that he's chasing? I'm not trying to sound concieted, but I know I am not an ugly girl. I have a nice figure and pretty face, so when he says things like "Oh why don't you look in the mirror" (even as a joke) I wonder why he does it. He is so bi-polar in his moods. I just hate this game. I hate the fact that he is always on my mind. The guys he hangs around treat me like dirt too, and that is probably because he does. I don't understand.. Please help!:mad:

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ElvenPriestess

Geeze, you need to stand up for yourself with him and these other friends of his. wtf? That's just cruel. How old is he? An adult I presume? He needs to act like it. That sort of behavior is just mean. Stand up for yourself next time. I don't get what his deal is either.

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Not all men are mean to women they like. Some of us are nice, affectionate, and friendly to the women we like.

 

It sounds like this guy is pretty immature to me, and I don't think you should put up with it.

 

But I would also suggest that you figure out what it is that you are getting from the way he treats you, and try to figure out a healthier way to get that need met. That will also help you to not put up with the trashy way he and his friends treat you.

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Girls get attracted to mean guys. It's just how it is. Smart guys know this and use it to their advantage. Normal guys honest with their attitudes get pissed a lot and therefore everything comes to them. There are even websites about this. Dont know names, but I've heard about this all the time and seen it in person. Looking back it worked for me earlier in college when I wasn't really trying. Like you? He probably wants to sleep with you. He doesn't want to waste his time or effort to have a serious relationship, if he liked you long term he would probably treat you like you wanted to be treated.

 

Ahh why does it work? I don't know. You're a girl, you tell me. I had a whole post about this topic earlier. "why do girls like *******s".

 

You seem sweet and kind of naive. If you care about yourself and how you're treated find some better guy out there.

 

Peace

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THE THRONE says this guy is into you but he is going a bit overboard. There is a certain lady THE THRONE would like to get to know better, and she and THE THRONE constantly flirt everytime they see each other. THE THRONE always gets on her about a lack of cooking skills (he did this around thanksgiving time), and he told her she got coal for xmas (like a day or two after xmas.) She was laughing after the xmas incident and said, "You're always clowning me, what did I do to deserve all this?", and by "this" she was referring to me teasing her. My cohort saw the entire ordeal, and when THE THRONE was driving his four door chariot to THRONEVILLE his cohort said, "You better close the deal with her because she's really diggin you." THE THRONE just smirked and said, "In due time my friend...in due time."

 

Now here are some things you need to be wary of:

 

He stares at me constantly

 

Staring and eye contact are two different things, which one is he doing?

 

has an obsession with my name

 

Obsession is a VERY strong word. If your name was "Mary", and everytime he saw you he smiled and changed it to something that sounded similar like "Larry", "Sherry" or "Cary" would that denote obsession?

 

and always has a smirk on his face.

 

No one on the face of this planet should always have a smirk on their face. He may be trying to play the cocky and funny role, but pay attention to two words THE THRONE said--trying and play. When people are "natural" or "real" they don't go overboard with this stuff and they know when to speak, when not to speak, what to say and how to say it. However, the he went about it he succeeded because you can't get the guy out of your head, and you're questioning why he isn't chasing you (because you're attractive blah blah blah.)

 

The main thing you need to be concerned about now is how he treats you around his friends. If he really treats you like crap around his buddies you need to walk away fast.

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Well J-Hunt he is older..he definetly should know better. He loves toying with me. He gets off on it I think. I wish I could take a magic potion to forget about him, but theres nothing I can do. He's got me where he wants me and he knows how to manipulate me to do what he wants. I think being mean is his way of not making it obvious that he likes me. For instance he'll whisper about me to someone and make it noticable so I go up to that person and be like what'd he say? All they tell me he said is lets pretend we are talking about her or he'll call me by my first and last name like he loves saying it..so when I'm not paying attention to him i'll look up. He is very egotistical and loves that I ask about him. He checks me out and when he looks into my eyes I melt. We have chemistry. I've noticed too that he doesn't like it when I am serious with him..or try and have a serious discussion, he somehow makes it into a joke at my expense. or if I talk to a guy he'll be like "you dont wanna know her" or he'll say "he doesn't want you to talk to him" its so odd..its like he pushes guys away from me, yet does it in away that they think he doesn't like me. You know what? I am not the commitment type either. All I want is a one night stand..but I dont know if he wants that. I don't know what he wants anymore..

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Why are guys mean to the women they like?

We have to keep you guys in line you know!

:eek:

 

JK...I think part of it's just playing the game of chasing, you know the guys showing off pretending to be a manly man by having a sense of control.

 

 

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I know it's kind of fun now, but I would say don't get involved.

 

He does this because it works. You play into it and that rewards his behaviour.

 

You will wind up hurt, I'm afraid.

 

Your gut is already speaking up against this guy. Listen to it.

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it does suck that this guy cuts you down the way hey does, kidding or not but to be honest with you, wether he is doing this to sleep with you or to have a relationship, he has to do this. the reason why i know this is because i had feelings for a girl in the summer, we flirted and kissed and slept together (no sex). everything ended because i was too nice. we are still friends but i kinda dont treat her the same, some times i can be an ass (im not aware of this all the time) and low and behold!, she started to flirt with me again, and to be honest i like the feeling of being in control, espeacially when she was the one who dumped me. i hope i dont lose it. because secretly i still would like to date her.

 

but if you dont want to date this guy sleep with him then ditch him.

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There is a very simple yet effective way to turn things around....

Ignore him.

 

Right now he is leading you around like a puppet and you are just feeding into it.

 

Reward good behaviour- ignore inappropriate behaviour.

If he's whispering to someone- pretend like you don't care.

 

In other words- do the exact opposite of what you have been doing and he will change his game up really fast. Put yourself is his shoes- everything he does gets a reaction from you- you're predictable. How do you think he would react if he realized his actions got no response from you?

 

Ignore him. Take on a take it or leave it attitude. Never give him the satisfaction of a reaction to any of his negative, game playing behaviour. Pretend you don't even know he is in the room. That is what will restore the balance of power in your favour.

 

If he thinks you don't like him- he'll try harder in a nicer way to get your attention.

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because if they were previously nice to the women they liked, it got them no where so they changed.

I was a nice guy & I don't act anything like the guy you mention but I'm no longer a nice guy to the girls I'm interested in. I'm only nice with the ones I wanna be just friends with.

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because if they were previously nice to the women they liked, it got them no where so they changed.

I was a nice guy & I don't act anything like the guy you mention but I'm no longer a nice guy to the girls I'm interested in. I'm only nice with the ones I wanna be just friends with.

 

That makes no sense to me. If this guy really likes her then treating her poorly obviously isn't working. So the logic is flawed, at least for mature grown women's perspective.

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Didn't use to make sense to me either but I realised it after I was last dumped.

It is working on her because she's obsessed with him, I reckon he could have her anytime he wants now & she'd probably stick around to take all his crap too.

 

I wish I could take a magic potion to forget about him, but theres nothing I can do. He's got me where he wants me and he knows how to manipulate me to do what he wants. I think being mean is his way of not making it obvious that he likes me. For instance he'll whisper about me to someone and make it noticable so I go up to that person and be like what'd he say? All they tell me he said is lets pretend we are talking about her or he'll call me by my first and last name like he loves saying it..so when I'm not paying attention to him i'll look up. He is very egotistical and loves that I ask about him. He checks me out and when he looks into my eyes I melt
this says it all IMO

 

I don't have any experience with mature grown women :o

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THE THRONE- He stares at me..not eye contact because he always focuses on me when I am in a room full of people, I'll actually ask him "What are you looking at?" and he just keeps smirking. The obsession with my name can be best described as if he loves to say it. Its never just my first name..it's my last too. He says it as if I am someone famous, and he doesn't do this with many or any other people. He made me vacuum the other day, and completely watched me the whole time, making jokes out of everything I did. Its like he got off on it. He definitely knows how to draw me in.

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He made me vacuum the other day, and completely watched me the whole time, making jokes out of everything I did. Its like he got off on it. He definitely knows how to draw me in.

 

~This whole statement should NOT be "drawing you in".

 

~If anything, you should be running the other way. He didn't MAKE you vacuum either. Unless of course he put a gun to your head. Only YOU allow others how to treat you. I did NOT say you caused his behavior, but YOU can control wheather you're in a relationship/friendship with him.

 

~The whole vacuum thing while he looked on and got off, sounds freakish and stalkerish to me.

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He made me vacuum the other day, and completely watched me the whole time, making jokes out of everything I did. Its like he got off on it. He definitely knows how to draw me in.

 

~This whole statement should NOT be "drawing you in".

 

~If anything, you should be running the other way. He didn't MAKE you vacuum either. Unless of course he put a gun to your head. Only YOU allow others how to treat you. I did NOT say you caused his behavior, but YOU can control wheather you're in a relationship/friendship with him.

 

~The whole vacuum thing while he looked on and got off, sounds freakish and stalkerish to me.

 

That's horrible JJ! Nobody should be treated like that. Nobody.

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THE THRONE- He stares at me..not eye contact because he always focuses on me when I am in a room full of people, I'll actually ask him "What are you looking at?" and he just keeps smirking. The obsession with my name can be best described as if he loves to say it. Its never just my first name..it's my last too. He says it as if I am someone famous, and he doesn't do this with many or any other people. He made me vacuum the other day, and completely watched me the whole time, making jokes out of everything I did. Its like he got off on it. He definitely knows how to draw me in.

 

 

THE THRONE says this guy is demented, and you need to get as far away from him as possible.

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I know. Everyone tells me to stay away from him. That he is a jerk and complicates things by leading me on. Like today I tried to be so professional around him, and he made me laugh like he always does with his smirk..and I ended up laughing. I hate when he smirks..his smile drives me crazy:( He looked me up and down and said to this kid "Hey tony, why don't you take her as a partner." I know he doesn't want me to actually be his partner because he gets jealous. He just wants me to confirm that these guys he introduces to me to and I are friends and nothing else. Its pathetic. He is verbally abusive.

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I know. Everyone tells me to stay away from him. That he is a jerk and complicates things by leading me on. Like today I tried to be so professional around him, and he made me laugh like he always does with his smirk..and I ended up laughing. I hate when he smirks..his smile drives me crazy:( He looked me up and down and said to this kid "Hey tony, why don't you take her as a partner." I know he doesn't want me to actually be his partner because he gets jealous. He just wants me to confirm that these guys he introduces to me to and I are friends and nothing else. Its pathetic. He is verbally abusive.

 

If you feel you can't do it alone, you might want to talk to someone close to you or a professional that might can give you some advice on how to break free from this guy. I really think its for the best.

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I know I know I know, but I see him everyday. It is so hard to get over someone you see everyday. I try to stay away from the parts where he works, but I can't because its addictive. Its like I am always thinking "What if I go in there and he flirts with me" but there is always that chance he'll kick me out and say something horrible to me too. Its like being an alcoholic and working in a bar, you just can't fight the feeling. I can never get a straight answer about his personal life, and even though I am almost 100% sure that since he is a commitment-phobe and lives by himself, he isn't seeing anyone. I try to figure it out since he changes his mind so much. There is a big part of me that doesn't want to know because A. He could be joking B. It'll make me jealous.. so I just have to go on not knowing exactly what's going on with him and other women and try to predict if he'll be nice to me or not. I just wish I could get this man out of my mind, because even if I am distracted for the moment and busy thinking about something else..he is always there. Even in my dreams. I hate it.

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"but I can't because its addictive."

 

All the more reason you might need to seek some help to break free.

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You are being played. Know that, and deal with it from that perspective. But, hey, maybe that's what you want? I've seen plenty of women who knew full well they were being played go right ahead and do the nasty anyway. Yet, it comes as a surprise when they find they too were played? Go figure...

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