Contradictions in Scripture??!!??

[shadowofman]

Well Moose has admitted that these are his opinions, and the rational he uses to explain contradictions. Which he admitted are contradictions to some, but if you use his point of view they are not contradictions at all.

 

Thousands of years of waring, the Eastern-Western split, and the Reformation period and it's all so obvious?

 

Look every one, the bible is written by so many different people, with so many translations and transcriptions over the years that you could justify the Branch Davidians theologies.

 

One interesting point I'd like to make, to go back to the Cain's wife question. modern Christians I've spoken to all guess the same answer, that Cain married his sister and that inbreeding wasn't a big deal because blood was "more pure" in the beginning. I first heard this from a Jehovas Witness and I think JamesM said something to the effect here.

 

Rabbinical tradition tells a different tale within Judaism. They guessed that Cain reproduced with the lineage of Lilith, Adam's first wife (ommitted from Genesis).

 

Whose if anyones guess is divinely inspired, or are they just guesses? Are these all just opinions like Moose has suggested? Which words of the bible are actually the words of God and which are traditions of the writers? If every word is in fact inspired, then you can't say there aren't any contradictions on the one hand and then say that the stories are different from different points of view.

[Storyrider]

(1) "Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 31:15)

 

(2) "Be fruitful and multiply."

 

Problem: Who is going to work to take care of all these babies on the sabbath?

 

In Orthodox Judaism, if a life is at stake, you can break the sabbath laws to save that life. I'm assuming that care of infants would fall under this loop hole. But if you're the mother of ten children, as those who eschew birth control may very well be, then when do you actually get to observe a day of worship and rest...ever?!

 

Presumably this was a right afforded only to men for most of history.

[taiko]

(1) "Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death." (Exodus 31:15)

 

(2) "Be fruitful and multiply."

 

Problem: Who is going to work to take care of all these babies on the sabbath?

 

In Orthodox Judaism, if a life is at stake, you can break the sabbath laws to save that life. I'm assuming that care of infants would fall under this loop hole. But if you're the mother of ten children, as those who eschew birth control may very well be, then when do you actually get to observe a day of worship and rest...ever?!

 

Presumably this was a right afforded only to men for most of history.

 

I've often wonderewd about this one. Like all the old law I wonder if the modern difinition of work is tripping us and the old Jews up. Jesus himself taught in a story about saing a calf in a well on the sabbath. That perhaps that Israel had took God's word to far in what is considered "work".

 

For some, playing music or a game is work. They are paid much more then an average income to do something which when I do it is part of rest and recreation.

[Storyrider]

True. My dad always points out that ministers, priests and rabbis have to work on the sabbath.

 

I think he has a point. Although worship is supposed to be the goal of the sabbath anyway, a delightful communion with God, etc.

 

Still, you can't tell me this is always delightful. It is work for them. When rabbis and ministers go on vacation, they stop leading services for that time period. Maybe they go lounge under a palm tree on the beach and drink a pina colada.

 

Even Catholic priests go on sabbatical (which is very ironic since it has the same root word as sabbath.) While on sabbatical, they are temporarily relieved of their priestly duties to the parish, including those performed on Sunday. So they do view those duties as work.

[nittygritty]

I've often wonderewd about this one. Like all the old law I wonder if the modern difinition of work is tripping us and the old Jews up. Jesus himself taught in a story about saing a calf in a well on the sabbath. That perhaps that Israel had took God's word to far in what is considered "work".

 

For some, playing music or a game is work. They are paid much more then an average income to do something which when I do it is part of rest and recreation.

 

Considering there were no cars, electricity or piped indoor plumbing, the definition of what work was may be quite different from what is considered to be work today.

 

I wonder if it relates to bartering, income or "business" transactions of goods and services of some kind?

[Storyrider]

Considering there were no cars, electricity or piped indoor plumbing, the definition of what work was may be quite different from what is considered to be work today.

 

I wonder if it relates to bartering, income or "business" transactions of goods and services of some kind?

No, it was actually intrepreted according to rabbinic code as any creative act. This is why starting a car or turning on a light is prohibited for Orthodox Jews because it requires starting a fire (Sex is OK though, and exempt).

[nittygritty]

No, it was actually intrepreted according to rabbinic code as any creative act. This is why starting a car or turning on a light is prohibited for Orthodox Jews because it requires starting a fire (Sex is OK though, and exempt).

 

Thanks Story.

 

Unfortunately, I'm afraid that I'm frequently guilty of breaking that particular commandment by any interpretation.