Trimmer Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Is there a way of getting rid of apserger's syndrome? I remember when I was little I had made a lot of good friends. And is there a way of stopping autism? Clearly you are very concerned about this, and you sound like you may have already convinced yourself, to some degree. This is not good. You cannot self-diagnose, nor should you move forward through life with a possible self-diagnosis hanging over your head, either as a burden or as an available excuse. You need a professional to make that kind of diagnosis. If you are worried, get yourself down to the campus health and/or guidance center and see what kind of resources might be there for you. Good luck. Agreed. Given your intense focus on this issue, and the uncertainty on your part, it would be just as useful and important for you to hear a diagnosis of "All OK," so you can move on and deal with the other anxieties you have without this spectre hanging over you. Link to post Share on other sites
Trimmer Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 No. I don't tolerate this kind of issue. Anything concerned about my education on a negative note I won't be happy about it - never. I agree with Blind_Otter - why assume it was negative? And even if it was, is the possibility that you were somehow imperfect as a 6-year old intolerable to you, even now, in retrospect? (Boy, if I could have been a fly on the wall at some of my parent-teacher conferences... ) Is this a feeling that still affects you at your current age, and if so, does it extend to areas of your life other than education? Link to post Share on other sites
Author BlueSoul Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 (edited) I agree with Blind_Otter - why assume it was negative? And even if it was, is the possibility that you were somehow imperfect as a 6-year old intolerable to you, even now, in retrospect? (Boy, if I could have been a fly on the wall at some of my parent-teacher conferences... ) Is this a feeling that still affects you at your current age, and if so, does it extend to areas of your life other than education? Yes it does, it affects my emotions and sometimes my understanding of myself every time I think about it. Other than education, it makes me think about my old classmates from the time. How I mean by that; none of them were as eccentric as I was. I forgot to mention this: why did some of you find it hard to believe the fact that I passed and graduated from secondary/high school while I'm autistic? Edited March 21, 2008 by BlueSoul Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I forgot to mention this: why did some of you find it hard to believe the fact that I passed and graduated from secondary/high school while I'm autistic? Because there is no evidence to suggest you are autistic at this stage. Most autistic people don't have this kind of level of self awareness to even recognise the fact that they have autism. Link to post Share on other sites
Trimmer Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Yes it does, it affects my emotions and sometimes my understanding of myself every time I think about it. Other than education, it makes me think about my old classmates from the time. How I mean by that; none of them were as eccentric as I was. More broadly than just that one incident from your youth, I meant do you find it hard to tolerate imperfection in yourself still now, and in other areas of your life than education? I forgot to mention this: why did some of you find it hard to believe the fact that I passed and graduated from secondary/high school while I'm autistic? See, you are talking in the present tense, like you are convinced that "I'm autistic..." Have you settled on this self-diagnosis, or do you have some outside information that you have not shared yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Author BlueSoul Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 Because there is no evidence to suggest you are autistic at this stage. Most autistic people don't have this kind of level of self awareness to even recognise the fact that they have autism. Are you saying that most autistic people never passed and graduated from secondary/high school simply because of their symptom? And how do you mean that autistic people don't have the level of self awareness to recognise the fact they have autism? Link to post Share on other sites
oh_what_am_I_doing Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Are you saying that most autistic people never passed and graduated from secondary/high school simply because of their symptom? And how do you mean that autistic people don't have the level of self awareness to recognise the fact they have autism? No one is saying students with autism or aspergers can't graduate from high school. Do you know what an IEP is? IEPs are written by teachers and signed by teachers, parents, and administrators to authorize special education services for a child with a disability (autism and aspergers are considered disabilities). The IEP spells out what services the child will be receiving, such as certain accommodations for instruction and testing, or in many instances, pull-out interventions. The IEP will also say what percentage of time the student will be in a mainstream setting, and how long they will be in a pull-out setting. Generally, the more severe the disability, the more the student is pulled out to work with an intervention teacher. Children with aspergers can usually be mainstreamed the majority of the time. Because of all the money and TLC being poured into each child with an IEP, they can and should definitely be able to graduate from high school. IEPs can even follow a child to college and must be followed by the professors there, if I understand correctly. Now for your second question. Austic people generally don't know they're autistic. That's part of the problem. If they could see how socially inept they are, perhaps they would be one step closer to fixing the problem. Autistic children grow up in their own world. Autistic students usually lack appropriate grade-level language skills. They are unable to put into words what they want to say, nor can they comprehend what other people say to them. Visual cues (such as a flashcard with someone using a drinking fountain) are often used by teachers because they seem to work better. The lack of verbal understanding causes frustration which then in turn causes behavioral issues such as aggression toward themselves or others. They often scream and hit themselves for seemingly no reason. Some children with autism have to wear a helmet so that they don't seriously injure themselves. Autistic children also suffer from sensory overload. Little things that you or I wouldn't even notice are enough to send someone who's autistic over the edge... things like the gentle hum of a florescent light or even simply wearing clothes. Many austic children hate the feeling of having clothes on because it causes them to itch. If these symptoms sound like you, then go see a professional. Depending on your age, I seriously don't see how you could possibly have aspergers without a teacher noticing. If you're 20 or 30, then you grew up in the days when it would have been caught and diagnosed somewhere along the way. If you're 50, 60, or 70 then I admit you probably slipped through the cracks because diagnoses weren't as common back then. Link to post Share on other sites
Author BlueSoul Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 No one is saying students with autism or aspergers can't graduate from high school. Do you know what an IEP is? IEPs are written by teachers and signed by teachers, parents, and administrators to authorize special education services for a child with a disability (autism and aspergers are considered disabilities). The IEP spells out what services the child will be receiving, such as certain accommodations for instruction and testing, or in many instances, pull-out interventions. The IEP will also say what percentage of time the student will be in a mainstream setting, and how long they will be in a pull-out setting. Generally, the more severe the disability, the more the student is pulled out to work with an intervention teacher. Children with aspergers can usually be mainstreamed the majority of the time. Because of all the money and TLC being poured into each child with an IEP, they can and should definitely be able to graduate from high school. IEPs can even follow a child to college and must be followed by the professors there, if I understand correctly. Now for your second question. Austic people generally don't know they're autistic. That's part of the problem. If they could see how socially inept they are, perhaps they would be one step closer to fixing the problem. Autistic children grow up in their own world. Autistic students usually lack appropriate grade-level language skills. They are unable to put into words what they want to say, nor can they comprehend what other people say to them. Visual cues (such as a flashcard with someone using a drinking fountain) are often used by teachers because they seem to work better. The lack of verbal understanding causes frustration which then in turn causes behavioral issues such as aggression toward themselves or others. They often scream and hit themselves for seemingly no reason. Some children with autism have to wear a helmet so that they don't seriously injure themselves. Autistic children also suffer from sensory overload. Little things that you or I wouldn't even notice are enough to send someone who's autistic over the edge... things like the gentle hum of a florescent light or even simply wearing clothes. Many austic children hate the feeling of having clothes on because it causes them to itch. If these symptoms sound like you, then go see a professional. Depending on your age, I seriously don't see how you could possibly have aspergers without a teacher noticing. If you're 20 or 30, then you grew up in the days when it would have been caught and diagnosed somewhere along the way. If you're 50, 60, or 70 then I admit you probably slipped through the cracks because diagnoses weren't as common back then. My mum always say that I was very intelligent when I was younger. Like the time when my mum and my sisters together coun't build out of k-nex parts and when they left them to me I had no problem with it. I remember when I was in primary school, I used to get pulled out of lessons weekly with 4-5 other students and learn in this room. Also remember that I didn't cared for schoolwork and was naughty at the time - which probably caused me to fall behind from work. I've been told by my parents that I was an intelligent little boy after all, it's only because I didn't like school that I let things slip. Concerning to what you're saying, no, I don't think none of them applied to me when I was a youngling. Link to post Share on other sites
oh_what_am_I_doing Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Because of words you're using like "primary school," it made me stop to think you may not be American. I live in the US where we have IEPs for children with disabilities, but if you live elsewhere this may not be the case. Surely most non-third-world countries would have a similar program, but it wouldn't be called an IEP necessarily. Link to post Share on other sites
Author BlueSoul Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 Because of words you're using like "primary school," it made me stop to think you may not be American. I live in the US where we have IEPs for children with disabilities, but if you live elsewhere this may not be the case. Surely most non-third-world countries would have a similar program, but it wouldn't be called an IEP necessarily. I remember when I was little I used to stack up a pile of cans until it can no longer maintain its height. I then unstacked them and putted them back to the shelve where they belonged (I lived in a shop that time). Same thing with lego bricks. I know autistic children are upsessed in stacking things. Does what I just said mean I was autistic? Link to post Share on other sites
oh_what_am_I_doing Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I remember when I was little I used to stack up a pile of cans until it can no longer maintain its height. I then unstacked them and putted them back to the shelve where they belonged (I lived in a shop that time). Same thing with lego bricks. I know autistic children are upsessed in stacking things. Does what I just said mean I was autistic? Of course not. When I was little I stacked blocks. It just means you're a normal kid. Link to post Share on other sites
Author BlueSoul Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 Of course not. When I was little I stacked blocks. It just means you're a normal kid. Aren't the obvious signs of autism is children stacking things up? Link to post Share on other sites
oh_what_am_I_doing Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Aren't the obvious signs of autism is children stacking things up? This is absolutely ridiculous. I can't believe I am even wasting my time responding yet again. This will be my last response because you are not listening. I'm beginning to think that this post isn't even for real. I clearly spelled out in an earlier message the symptoms of autism. Just because you stacked cans as a child certainly does not make you autisic. I bet if you polled the LSers that almost every stacked things when they were little. While it is true that some autistic children are stackers, there is more to it than that. If my child had social interaction and communication problems then I would worry and take him to a specialist. If he screamed, hit himself, tore off his clothes in pain, and couldn't stand to be in a room with florescent lights, I would take him to a specialist. I would NOT take him to see a specialist because he stacked his toys. The end. Link to post Share on other sites
Trimmer Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I remember when I was little I used to stack up a pile of cans until it can no longer maintain its height. I then unstacked them and putted them back to the shelve where they belonged (I lived in a shop that time). Same thing with lego bricks. I know autistic children are upsessed in stacking things. Does what I just said mean I was autistic? Direct question: given how you seem to be convinced, or at least you seem ready to be convinced, why have you not sought a professional evaluation and diagnosis? You cannot conclusively diagnose yourself, nor can posters on a message board conclusively diagnose you, even with a list of symptoms. Given your focus on this issue, why have you not sought an evaluation? Link to post Share on other sites
sb129 Posted March 27, 2008 Share Posted March 27, 2008 OWAID answered my questions, thanks. Shame that BlueSoul didn't process the answers. BlueSoul- I think you are looking for reasons to provide excuses for you to cop out of doing your school work. This and many of your other threads seem to suggest that rather than growing up and getting down to doing some proper school work, you seem to be looking for every reason under the sun to blame instead. You often post topics that are clearly essay topics that you have been set for homework, and then you look for all sorts of reasons as to why you are "abnormal"- probably to get out of doing work. Examples- a few weeks ago you said you were being victimised by your teacher because he kept asking you questions in class you didn't know the answer to. My conclusion: you don't do enough preparation for that class, and you need to do more reading so you are prepared, and therefore stand a better chance of doing well in that subject. Your Conclusion:Nobody else knew the answers either, that means he is picking on you and is racist. This week, you think you might have autism/aspergers. I think you are simply too lazy to be bothered to do any real schoolwork and are looking for ways to excuse yourself from it. You are in the UK- you would have been diagnosed with either aspergers or autism long before you went to college, and if you were that concerned about it you would be seeking professional help instead of peoples unprofessional opinions on an anonymous forum- but I guess you probably can't afford to pay the therapist, being still at school and I have a suspicion that if you asked your parents for the money you know what their reaction would be. Link to post Share on other sites
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