antics at a bar

[yongyong]

Lying? What the ****?

 

Do you just say whatever it is in your mind to people?

 

Then, if a girl doesn't like you, she should say to you 'you are so ugly, poor or whatever the reason is' than saying 'I will call you back later'

Maybe you appreciated those honest comments:bunny:

 

If a guy ask a girl to go to his place, every girl knows what they are going to do (at least cuddling, kissing)

If she yells at you by saying 'you said we would just watch a movie (with serious angry face), you pervert mothaXXXX blabla' then you should get rid of that dumb bxxch

 

I am sure you would be one of the people saying 'I hate playing game'

sorry, reality doesn't work that way

 

 

 

 

 

Lying doesn't work either and if I had a choice of lying to get a girl or being honest, I'd choose honesty anyday and time of the week. Lying and conjuring up make belief is not good.

[Pyro]

I don't agree with that.

 

It's like saying 'I want to **** you' compared to saying 'do you want to watch movie at my house?'

being honest won't work.

 

Honesty has worked for me, so it can work for others.

[yongyong]

anyway here is more inputs

I would never say 'do you have bf' at the bar. that's stupid period.

Maybe she has/doesn't have boyfriend but wants to have fun for that night.

If you throw that comment, you are saying you want serious relationship with her.

Who the heck thinks about having serious relationship with a person they met at the bar THAT day!!????????

You might be the coolest person she would find out later SO WHAT? she wouldn't give you a chance because of this comment

 

 

For drinking, little drinking is ok cuz it keeps your energy upbeat

I try not to because my face gets red easily and girls would think I am trying to talk to women because I am drunk, horny man even though my brain is just fine

As you know, it's about what they see not what the **** you think

[Pyro]

anyway here is more inputs

I would never say 'do you have bf' at the bar. that's stupid period.

Maybe she has/doesn't have boyfriend but wants to have fun for that night.

If you throw that comment, you are saying you want serious relationship with her.Who the heck thinks about having serious relationship with a person they met at the bar THAT day!!????????

You might be the coolest person she would find out later SO WHAT? she wouldn't give you a chance because of this comment

 

-Thats not true. Finding out if they have a BF or not means that I find her interesting and that if she does have a BF, then I am not going to waste my time talking to her. That person is nuts if they believe that they want a serious relationship with someone that they just met.

[yongyong]

maybe she was into you because of your looks (if it was at bar)

 

Or she had known you for a while (co worker or classmates you never talked to but she knows you somehow, she heard from friends how cool you are something like that)

 

 

 

Lying? What the ****?

 

Do you just say whatever it is in your mind to people?

 

Then, if a girl doesn't like you, she should say to you 'you are so ugly, poor or whatever the reason is' than saying 'I will call you back later'

Maybe you appreciated those honest comments:bunny:

 

If a guy ask a girl to go to his place, every girl knows what they are going to do (at least cuddling, kissing)

If she yells at you by saying 'you said we would just watch a movie (with serious angry face), you pervert mothaXXXX blabla' then you should get rid of that dumb bxxch

 

I am sure you would be one of the people saying 'I hate playing game'

sorry, reality doesn't work that way

 

Honesty has worked for me, so it can work for others.

[Pyro]

maybe she was into you because of your looks (if it was at bar)

 

Or she had known you for a while (co worker or classmates you never talked to but she knows you somehow, she heard from friends how cool you are something like that)

 

That has happened before, but I see no benefits in lying to someone when you first meet them.

[yongyong]

Sir, you can send vibe that you are interested in her for more than friends.

She will sense that and will give you approriate response.

(she might say 'my bf and I did this blah blah')

 

It's like girls saying 'I have a BF' when you are just talking to her casually ( not grinding her anything like that), you would be like WTF? right?

 

 

 

 

-Thats not true. Finding out if they have a BF or not means that I find her interesting and that if she does have a BF, then I am not going to waste my time talking to her. That person is nuts if they believe that they want a serious relationship with someone that they just met.

[Pyro]

Sir, you can send vibe that you are interested in her for more than friends.

She will sense that and will give you approriate response.

(she might say 'my bf and I did this blah blah')

 

It's like girls saying 'I have a BF' when you are just talking to her casually ( not grinding her anything like that), you would be like WTF? right?

 

That would be her way of telling me that she either does have a BF and that I can save my breath and energy or that she is not interested in me.

 

I wouldn't take it personally. I have shot down women before and there are plenty of women out there, so there is no need to get all p*ssed off at one for turning me down.

[yongyong]

LYING?

 

OKOKOKOKOK! my bad

 

if you want to date her, then you should ask if she got boyfriend

if you want to fuxk her (most guys think about this when they see attractive women, if you don't, check your hormone level), you should ask her if she wants to get laid.

 

I am going to try and I hope this better works:bunny:

 

 

That has happened before, but I see no benefits in lying to someone when you first meet them.

[Pyro]

LYING?

 

OKOKOKOKOK! my bad

 

if you want to date her, then you should ask if she got boyfriend

if you want to fuxk her (most guys think about this when they see attractive women, if you don't, check your hormone level), you should ask her if she wants to get laid.

 

I am going to try and I hope this better works:bunny:

 

If you are looking for a quick piece of as$, then by all means lie. Good luck on finding one.

 

Big difference between what you want and what I want.

[yongyong]

You don't get it , do you??????/

 

I said you shouldn't show your serious interest to her right away.

 

If you call this lying(hiding emotion), you must be Jesus.

 

 

 

 

 

If you are looking for a quick piece of as$, then by all means lie. Good luck on finding one.

 

Big difference between what you want and what I want.

[tanbark813]

If you call this lying(hiding emotion), you must be Jesus.

 

No, he got banned from here.

[Pyro]

You don't get it , do you??????/

 

I said you shouldn't show your serious interest to her right away.

 

If you call this lying(hiding emotion), you must be Jesus.

 

Then what is the point of talking to a woman that you have some interest in if you don't even know if she is available or not? If she has a BF I am going to stop talking to her and not waste my time or hers. I must have said this now about 5 times.

[yongyong]

I respected your different perspective

 

But don't say what I am trying to say is LYING, you got that?

 

Then what is the point of talking to a woman that you have some interest in if you don't even know if she is available or not? If she has a BF I am going to stop talking to her and not waste my time or hers. I must have said this now about 5 times.

[Pyro]

I respected your different perspective

 

But don't say what I am trying to say is LYING, you got that?

 

Trying to boss me around isn't going to get you anywhere.

[Hoffle]

Ok it isn't lying, but it's beating around the bush, I'm direct kinda guy, and FYI I don't do one night stands and casual flings, that's not my style, not that there's anything wrong with that, it's just not my scene. Secondly I hardly believe asking someone at a bar if they have a gf - bf is indicating you want a serious relationship. It's called be sensible and smart and not wasting your time. You clearly like to be more indirect and there's nothing wrong with this, I'd just prefer to be straight talking.

[Storyrider]

From a female perspective, I would expect a guy I met at a bar to be anywhere from sightly tipsy to extremely tipsy. With that expectation in mind, I wouldn't be surprised if he blurted things out. That is what alcohol does to people. In fact, isn't that why many people drink, to lose some inhibitions and provide social lubricant?

 

If you asked that question in the grocery store, yeah, I'd be creeped out.

[Hoffle]

If you asked that question in the grocery store, yeah, I'd be creeped out

 

Why on earth would I spend my time socialising with people in a grocery store of all places?

[Taramere]

I was at a bar on sat night after I had a few glasses of the finest wine, a nice girl approached the bar; she ordered a drink and sat down on the stole next to me, after several gazes in her direction, I yell out "Hello" in a rather melodramatic voice...

 

You missed out one or two bits. Squaring up to the woman, smirking with embarrassment as though Benny Hill's choreographing your every move, shouting "hello" as if it's some kind of spoof public service announcement....then staring with a sort of belligerent smile as if to say "well what do you think of that then!"

 

How I love the UK. You are British, aren't you?

[tanbark813]

If you asked that question in the grocery store, yeah, I'd be creeped out.

 

I just throw peaches at women.

[blind_otter]

You missed out one or two bits. Squaring up to the woman, smirking with embarrassment as though Benny Hill's choreographing your every move, shouting "hello" as if it's some kind of spoof public service announcement....then staring with a sort of belligerent smile as if to say "well what do you think of that then!"

 

How I love the UK. You are British, aren't you?

 

hee hee. It's funny because it's true.

 

Even if I meet someone at a bar I am repulsed by those who are obviously drunk. Even when I drank, I didn't like being around drunk people until I, myself, was drunk. Now I don't drink at all, so I do not find excessively, sloppily, slurringly drunk people attractive in any way, at any time.

 

And I do not find it offensive when men ask me if I have a boyfriend. I think it's great. Saves both of us some time. The only time it's ever awkward is if the girl actually does have a boyfriend. Then there is that pause in the conversation where you know he's thinking "Oh, crap. There goes that idea." and she's thinking, "Er, how do I get out of this interaction gracefully?"

[Taramere]

hee hee. It's funny because it's true.

 

Even if I meet someone at a bar I am repulsed by those who are obviously drunk. Even when I drank, I didn't like being around drunk people until I, myself, was drunk. Now I don't drink at all, so I do not find excessively, sloppily, slurringly drunk people attractive in any way, at any time.

 

Me either. I hate seeing drunk men staggering their way towards me. because I always think that it might lead to some kind of unpleasant, aggressive scene if I don't handle with kid gloves whatever rudeness is about to come my way. Sometimes it's not clear whether they want to chat you up or start a fight with you. Probably in a lot of cases it's a bit of both.

 

This craze for "negging" women as a pick-up device worsens matters. Take your average drunk, throw in a stupid strategy like that...add a few indignant bystanders into thte equation and it's no wonder the accident and emergency departments of city hospitals are so packed at weekends.

[Hoffle]

Women are just as bad as men for staggering upto people when drunk and hey it's not like I'm aggressive drunk, or was staggering around, I didn't act drunk until I opened my cake hole and slurred my words. And if you must know, when she said "Yes, I have a boyfriend" I just walked off and didn't see her again, so all is well that ends well eh!

[yongyong]

In PUA community, Negging means throwing some comments that's not nice in playful manner

(whoa I like your shirts, I think I saw it at tj maxx)

 

but there is a rule though.

 

You should use those to 8~10 girls (scale 1-10)

because they hear compliments all the time and it kind of shocks them

 

I said 'do you have any sense of fashion' to a tall girl who was wearing black dress and white hills. She responded nicely. Only one who got mad was her uglier friend:lmao:

 

 

However, if you say these to 6, she will get mad or cry because they are already conscious about themselves:rolleyes:

 

 

Me either. I hate seeing drunk men staggering their way towards me. because I always think that it might lead to some kind of unpleasant, aggressive scene if I don't handle with kid gloves whatever rudeness is about to come my way. Sometimes it's not clear whether they want to chat you up or start a fight with you. Probably in a lot of cases it's a bit of both.

 

This craze for "negging" women as a pick-up device worsens matters. Take your average drunk, throw in a stupid strategy like that...add a few indignant bystanders into thte equation and it's no wonder the accident and emergency departments of city hospitals are so packed at weekends.

[Taramere]

However, if you say these to 6, she will get mad or cry because they are already conscious about themselves:rolleyes:

 

The guys who write this stuff you've been reading bank on other people being insecure and intellectually weak enough to be brainwashed. If not the women they succeed in insulting into bed, the men who are paying out good money to read garbage that doesn't even hit the dizzy heights of bad pop-psychology.

 

If you really want to get some insight into theories of human behaviour, I suggest you start reading quality books and the writings of genuine experts in the field of psychology - rather than self-appointed gurus with silly names. On the other hand

 

I said 'do you have any sense of fashion' to a tall girl who was wearing black dress and white hills.

 

White hills? What...like a strapless bra over a black dress, you mean? Anyway...if that's the best you can come up with, then it might have been a little unrealistic of me to suggest heavier reading material than Mystery and friends. "Do you have any sense of fashion?" Where's the class, insightful wit or hilarity in that? It's just a rudely worded personal question.

 

From what I've read about negging, some men regard it as a process of lowering a woman's self esteem to make her more susceptible to/appreciative of attention.

 

http://blog.tenmagnet.com/2007/08/nyt-post-on-negging.html

 

A strategy insecure men have probably always used - with the success rate correlating with the insecurity of the woman they're using it on. It makes sense in a way: "I feel like she's out of my league, but if I keep putting her down I might convince her to be grateful that I want to f*ck her."

 

The kind of mildly insulting banter that goes on between friends is something different, because there's an underlying relationship/affection. That "I know your faults, but because I like you they're endearing to me" thing. With strangers you don't have that relationship....and generally I'd see a guy who does the negging thing as someone who's either just being a dick or trying to create an artificial sense of familiarity between us.

 

The exception is if the guy is particularly witty, intelligent and knows how to avoid overdoing it...but that comes down to instinct and natural attributes.

 

Women are just as bad as men for staggering upto people when drunk and hey it's not like I'm aggressive drunk, or was staggering around, I didn't act drunk until I opened my cake hole and slurred my words.

 

 

You sound alarmingly like a good friend of mine. There's your neg for the day.

Edited March 13, 2008 by Taramere