underpants Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Okay, so first, I notice that Jesus is a not really a Capricorn, but that his birthday was adjusted to coincide with an existing Pagan holiday that pre-existed Christmas. Okay, I guess that makes the transition to a new religious order easier. Understandable. Especially in a more underpopulated and undereducated world. Now I see that Jesus also coincidentally "rises" from the dead (the whole miracle thing). On the Spring Equinox...another Pagan holiday. Am I terrible to feel a little shafted. Not by Jesus, whoever he was. I'm sure he was a cool dude. However, by those who stole another groups' holidays and entitled those to him? That just seems underhanded. Discuss? ....and what the heck does all this have to do with a rabbit delivering eggs? Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Well so the truth be known... Easter is a pagan holiday, of course, and is derived from the the worship of the Saxon God(dess) Eostre (Easter is called Ostern in German). This was a celebration of the spring equinox, spring also fertility, rebirth... (see the parallels with J-man's resurrection...) and so on. Guess what, one of the ways to celebrate was to bury eggs in the ground... And rabbits are a pretty good symbol of fertility... You can connect the dots I think now. So the 2 major Christian holidays just coincidently happen to fall right around the equinox??? This is what happens when you "make it up as you go." Link to post Share on other sites
BIGGEST LOSER EVER Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 the entire egg thing relates to Mary Magdalene. After Jesus rose from the dead and was carried off by angels, Mary went to Rome and got an audience with Caesar, when asked to prove the divinity of Christ, Mary took out an egg which then turned red in front of them. Basically thats where the entire egg painting at easter thing comes from. Christmas and Easter were placed in the time frame of Pagen rituals in order to help with conversions............but by that token find me an atheist who doesn't celebrate Christmas or doesn't take a few extra days off on Easter bank holidays and i'll quite happily set up a web cam and let y'all watch me chewing my own testicles.... Link to post Share on other sites
lovelorcet Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 the entire egg thing relates to Mary Magdalene. After Jesus rose from the dead and was carried off by angels, Mary went to Rome and got an audience with Caesar, when asked to prove the divinity of Christ, Mary took out an egg which then turned red in front of them. Basically thats where the entire egg painting at easter thing comes from. Christmas and Easter were placed in the time frame of Pagen rituals in order to help with conversions............but by that token find me an atheist who doesn't celebrate Christmas or doesn't take a few extra days off on Easter bank holidays and i'll quite happily set up a web cam and let y'all watch me chewing my own testicles.... The egg thing was going on way before Christ ever was supposed to have lived. Just because the Christian's made up some story to tie in some egg symbol doesn't mean this tradition started there... And your second argument is a load of crap, everyone needs some time off from work and a lot of times it just makes sense to take the days off that everyone else does. There are some things I can't do when half my coworkers are on holiday so one can just as well use the time more effectively and just get some rest. Link to post Share on other sites
shadowofman Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Where did this egg story about Mary come from? I've never heard of it before. So was Mary capable of miracles too? Just like the Christmas tree, eggs and bunnies are German in origin. Fun things to do for kids that stuck through the conversion to Christianity, even thought the bible warns against them. Link to post Share on other sites
annieo Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Samhaine - Halloween - all saints/souls day, the year has departed. Yule/winter solstice - Christmas, the sun/son will now start to return. Imolc/Candlemas - St. Agnes Day, for virgins, maidens, the latent seed in the ground. Spring Equinox (Eostre, Ostara) - Easter, eggs, bunnies, hope for a fruitful harvest in the coming warm season. Beltane (May 1) - May day (admittedly, the Catholics didn't pick this one up, but it is close to Pentecost quite often) Dance around the may POLE, more fertility stuff (like sex). With the Christians, the Holy Spirit came down as tongues of flame (Pentecost). Midsummer/summer solstice - St. John the Baptist. Another time of tide turning. Lammas/Lughnassad - I think this is the annuciation of Mary, mother of God, when she rose into heaven. For pagan Europe, a feast of thanksgiving for a bountiful harvest of grains. Mabon - St. Stephen's day. Another harvest festival, this time for vegetables/fruits. St.Stephen was associated with blackberries and, huh, kittens ? It wasn't just Easter, OP! Link to post Share on other sites
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