audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I never said I wasn't a jerk. I'm just saying it works for me. Good point. How does it work? Briefly? Link to post Share on other sites
Advocate's Devilette Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 This is exactly why you should wait and get to know a guy before getting naked, the most intimate act you can share with another human being. You get to know them, you wait until it is special between the two of you to be intimate. A player isn't interested in an emotional or deep connection of anykind and he won't stick around for any of that process without sex. This isn't rocket science. I have a question for all of you. Can you tell the difference between a "genuinely good guy" and a "player"? Obviously the main difference is that the player goes after every girl that walks his way. But I wanted to ask a hypothetical question. Maybe this is mostly to the women. If you never saw a "player" flirting with any other girls other than you, how can you tell if he's a "genuinely good guy" or a "player"? Because I feel that the "player" emulates certain characteristics that make him seem like the perfect guy.....and it's hard to tell the difference between the 2. What are your thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
MayDay Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 what's with all these riddles? Of course I think I'm a genuine nice guy, but not towards women because that doesn't work. No riddles. Just referring to what you stated. If you are genuinely a nice guy, then according to you you hardly get dates. But you don't hardly get dates, thus, you ACT like a jerk to get girls, no? Thus, you want to be somebody and something else the rest of your life, and never be you. Is being you that bad? You shouldnt sell yourself short like that. you dont want to be a faker your whole life, do you? Nobody is going to love you for you. They are going to love the wrong person that you present. Link to post Share on other sites
BareGoddess Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 No riddles. Just referring to what you stated. If you are genuinely a nice guy, then according to you you hardly get dates. But you don't hardly get dates, thus, you ACT like a jerk to get girls, no? Thus, you want to be somebody and something else the rest of your life, and never be you. Is being you that bad? You shouldnt sell yourself short like that. you dont want to be a faker your whole life, do you? Nobody is going to love you for you. They are going to love the wrong person that you present. What the HEY? NO idea what you just said. :lmao: Be yourself, will you? Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 No riddles. Just referring to what you stated. If you are genuinely a nice guy, then according to you you hardly get dates. But you don't hardly get dates, thus, you ACT like a jerk to get girls, no? Thus, you want to be somebody and something else the rest of your life, and never be you. Is being you that bad? You shouldnt sell yourself short like that. you dont want to be a faker your whole life, do you? Nobody is going to love you for you. They are going to love the wrong person that you present. Well I'm being myself. I'm just being the person I always wanted to be. And only presenting a certain part of me. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Good point. How does it work? Briefly? Briefly is better than never . Link to post Share on other sites
MayDay Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Be yourself, will you? THAT"S what i'm trying to say! Link to post Share on other sites
MayDay Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Well I'm being myself. I'm just being the person I always wanted to be. And only presenting a certain part of me. You are back peddling here Thats the FIRST time you say you are 'being yourself' and only presenting a 'certain part' of you. You might be fooling yourself, but anyone reading this thread can realizes you just tacked that on to defend yourself against your own logic Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Briefly is better than never . Aw, somehow you're getting mixed up with the wrong women, probably because of your complex. Ever see the movie Sybil with Sally Field? She had like, hundreds of personalities??!? Be yourself, and the right woman will come. It might not be on your timetable, or when you expect it, but it'd be a shame for you to be someone else when this person for "YOU" passes by... Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Aw, somehow you're getting mixed up with the wrong women, probably because of your complex. Ever see the movie Sybil with Sally Field? She had like, hundreds of personalities??!? Be yourself, and the right woman will come. It might not be on your timetable, or when you expect it, but it'd be a shame for you to be someone else when this person for "YOU" passes by... You're clueless about attracting women. Women can get away with just being themselves, but men have to be like the guy that gets all the women, like me. Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 It doesn't matter the distinction between jek and player. All that matters is they both attract a lot of women and the genuine nice guy can ahrdly even attract one. There's got to e an underlying reason. And the only reason is the thread "A theory and observation msot guys have." Fonz. You're mistaking the "nice guy" from the "genuinely good MAN". Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Fonz. You're mistaking the "nice guy" from the "genuinely good MAN". OK but a lot of girls here are confusing a bad guy with a genuinely good man and a nice guy. They're really confusing the term 3 ways. Link to post Share on other sites
MayDay Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 You're clueless about attracting women. Women can get away with just being themselves, but men have to be like the guy that gets all the women, like me. So no matter how attractive the guy is, if he is nice he wont get women? Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 So you change who you truly are to get women? No. YOU DON'T CHANGE YOURSELF TO GET WOMEN. You change yourself for the better FOR YOURSELF. Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 No. YOU DON'T CHANGE YOURSELF TO GET WOMEN. You change yourself for the better FOR YOURSELF. In other words, you need to break out of the mold of the common advice of "Just being yourself" There's a lot of guys who are "Just being themselves" that will be losers forever. And there's guys that have told me, "Just be yourself" that are absolute losers..... For the truth is ...you don't "Just be yourself". You be YOUR BEST SELF. Be the kind of person that you are SUPPOSED to be...the person you were meant to be. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 So no matter how attractive the guy is, if he is nice he wont get women? Well if he was really attractive he could get away with being a little nicer, but that's not to say he couldn't get even more girls by being not so nice. Being too nice would keep him from getting any girls. I've known guys that every girl thought was attracted who never even got laid or had aGF because he was too nice. Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 You're in a dream world. Real Women are attracted to the real and genuine nice guy. NOt the jerk or the player. The key word is "Real Women". In other words..the GENUINELY good girl. Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 You're clueless about attracting women. Women can get away with just being themselves, but men have to be like the guy that gets all the women, like me. Oh good grief! As a heterosexual female, I am pretty clueless about attracting women. BUT - I am attracted to genuinely good men! So with this one woman not being attracted to players/jerks, your theory that ALL women are attracted to players/jerks is simply UNTRUE! OK but a lot of girls here are confusing a bad guy with a genuinely good man and a nice guy. They're really confusing the term 3 ways. WTF?? There's a difference between a genuinely good man and a nice guy? Now I'm truly confused. I'll stick with my genuinely boyish nice guy man. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 You be YOUR BEST SELF. Be the kind of person that you are SUPPOSED to be...the person you were meant to be. And part of doing that is being the sexual unapologetic man that you always wanted to be in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 The key word is "Real Women". In other words..the GENUINELY good girl. Which does exist, and believe it or not, is attracted to genuinely nice guys! Link to post Share on other sites
MayDay Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Well if he was really attractive he could get away with being a little nicer, but that's not to say he couldn't get even more girls by being not so nice. Being too nice would keep him from getting any girls. I've known guys that every girl thought was attracted who never even got laid or had aGF because he was too nice. Ive known attractive nice guys and nonattractive nice guys that always get laid and had girlfriends because they were confident and just themselves. Maybe you are just not attractive. Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 Then why do I know so many good guys that always get rejected and put intto the friends zone, and all of us guys who don't are jerks? Because these "good guys" aren't MEN. They just put their tail between thier legs. Again, there's a huge difference between the "nice guy" and the "GENUINELY GOOD MAN". Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 And part of doing that is being the sexual unapologetic man that you always wanted to be in the first place. Which doesn't make you a jerk. There's nothing wrong with expressing desire, if it's not creepy/aggressive, of course. I consider myself a genuinely nice woman, but I'm in my 30s, and I also want sex, and I'm not going to apologize for requesting it of or having it with my genuinely nice man. Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 what's with all these riddles? Of course I think I'm a genuine nice guy, but not towards women because that doesn't work. How old are you? http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t148797/ I mean..come on..get it straight. There's being the GENUINELY GOOD MAN and being a lowly "nice guy". A Genuinely good man is the "nice guy" with confidence and assertiveness. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Oh good grief! As a heterosexual female, I am pretty clueless about attracting women. Exactly right you're not even a lesbian let alone a straight man. BUT - I am attracted to genuinely good men! So with this one woman not being attracted to players/jerks, your theory that ALL women are attracted to players/jerks is simply UNTRUE! Well I never said "ALL" you just imagined that word. However I wouldn't just take your word for it that you're an exception anyway. WTF?? There's a difference between a genuinely good man and a nice guy? Now I'm truly confused. I think FormrNiceGuy meant by "nice guy" a guy always in the friend zone. Anyway he made the distinction betwen nice guy and genuinely good man, I didn't. Link to post Share on other sites
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