TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Because these "good guys" aren't MEN. They just put their tail between thier legs. Again, there's a huge difference between the "nice guy" and the "GENUINELY GOOD MAN". Actually not really. They're just good guys but don't pursue women with sexual intent. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Which doesn't make you a jerk. There's nothing wrong with expressing desire, if it's not creepy/aggressive, of course. See that's the problem right there, you put a vague qualifer on it. Creepy could mean a the genuine nice man that you speak highly expressing desire. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Ive known attractive nice guys and nonattractive nice guys that always get laid and had girlfriends because they were confident and just themselves. Maybe you are just not attractive. Why do you keep making this about me? Anyway you're wrong on all accounts. Do you really expect any guy going to believe an unattractive, nice guys always gets laid and has GFs just because he was confident and acted nice? Link to post Share on other sites
BareGoddess Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Well if he was really attractive he could get away with being a little nicer, but that's not to say he couldn't get even more girls by being not so nice. Being too nice would keep him from getting any girls. I've known guys that every girl thought was attracted who never even got laid or had aGF because he was too nice. :lmao::lmao: What the EFF? Hahahah! This is the saddest thing I've ever seen. If the guy was nice and attractive he can get chicks. But if he's too nice he will not even get a flea. But if the guy is HAWT then he doesn't have to be so nice. He can still get chicks if he's not so nice and he's just hot. I've known guys who never got laid because they were too hot and too nice. Those too nice guys never get layd. And if they get layd their not to nice. And if he's atractive he can get away with being niser. But if he's ugly, forgit it. He won't get layed. But if he's not so nise, he can get lots more pvussy. I've known lots of bros who didn't get layed even tho ladyes thought they were hawt but they were too nice so no chicks wanted them. Be Ware! And really lisen to me. I no what I'm talking about. Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 A Genuinely good man is the "nice guy" with confidence and assertiveness. BINGO!!! Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Actually not really. They're just good guys but don't pursue women with sexual intent. That's bull$hit. So how old are you? You dodged that question... Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 See that's the problem right there, you put a vague qualifer on it. Creepy could mean a the genuine nice man that you speak highly expressing desire. Okay, I'll retract that. Nothing wrong with expressing desire if it's reciprocated...genuinely. Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Why do you keep making this about me? Anyway you're wrong on all accounts. Do you really expect any guy going to believe an unattractive, nice guys always gets laid and has GFs just because he was confident and acted nice? It could happen. Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 Actually not really. They're just good guys but don't pursue women with sexual intent. Dude, you just answered your own question! That's the difference! The "nice guy" didn't make a damn move. The 'GENUINELY' GOOD MAN will. Read what I bolded. Genuine means that he's being true, being real. Man means that he'll make a damn move! Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 It could happen. Well anything could happen sometime. What matters is what does happen most of the time. And you can't really be confident and assertive with people without being essentially a jerk to a large degree. Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Dude, you just answered your own question! That's the difference! The "nice guy" didn't make a damn move. The 'GENUINELY' GOOD MAN will. Read what I bolded. Genuine means that he's being true, being real. Man means that he'll make a damn move! Yes, and these guys = for genuinely nice women! Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Dude, you just answered your own question! That's the difference! The "nice guy" didn't make a damn move. The 'GENUINELY' GOOD MAN will. Read what I bolded. Genuine means that he's being true, being real. Man means that he'll make a damn move! I'm not so much disagreeing with you as I am a few others that are going around in circles. They're using semantics, denying they like a guy to be a certain way, then finally admiting they do. Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Well anything could happen sometime. What matters is what does happen most of the time. And you can't really be confident and assertive with people without being essentially a jerk to a large degree. *sigh* I will just nicely, and don't forget genuinely, agree to disagree with you. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Yes, and these guys = for genuinely nice women! Why don't you just rephrase that too horny and aggressive men for horney women ? Link to post Share on other sites
BareGoddess Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Dude, you just answered your own question! That's the difference! The "nice guy" didn't make a damn move. The 'GENUINELY' GOOD MAN will. Read what I bolded. Genuine means that he's being true, being real. Man means that he'll make a damn move! MAN will make move. NICE GUY won't make move. Genuine Man might make a move. Cave Man will never make move. Real Man doesn't give a crap weather they make a move or not. NICE GUY always makes moves. That is all. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 MAN will make move. NICE GUY won't make move. Genuine Man might make a move. Cave Man will never make move. Real Man doesn't give a crap weather they make a move or not. NICE GUY always makes moves. That is all. Well you butchrd up all those definitions in my opinion . OK back to the topic, now which one is the player, FromerNiceGuy? Can you resummarize the conclusions? Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 Well you butchrd up all those definitions in my opinion . OK back to the topic, now which one is the player, FromerNiceGuy? Can you resummarize the conclusions? “The attributes of “genuinely good guys” are often mirrored by players and dirt balls because they know showing you what you want to see in order to get what they want.” “A GOOD player is selective, which is what makes it more difficult to distinguish him from a good guy. A player is too much, too soon, too fast.” “Genuine just means that he is honest with himself. A player is neither here nor there when discussing honesty. ” “I agree that a good player is sometimes difficult to distinguish, from men who have hearts and souls. If you aren't able to distinguish right away, time always tells. No one can keep up an act forever.” “Yes you can tell the difference between the “genuinely good man” and the “player”, but unfortunately, only after you've had the misfortune of some dealings with a couple of them. Once you have been run over by one or two, you can see them coming a mile away.” “Time will tell, everybody can be fooled at first, but after a while the player will tire or give up his act, whereas the good guy stays the same.” “I can only speak for the "players" I've encountered. They were all talk and no action.” “The mask slips eventually. Human beings can't help being themselves usually.” “A player will be a good guy to begin with, then his house of cards will start to slide when maintaining the charade is too much.” “Players rarely settle down. They either pretend to, or fool themselves into believing they can. Most often, they will fail unless they make a serious choice to change themselves by changing the strong "NEED" for external validation of who they are. In essence, they learn how to self-validate. Good MEN are honest, or at least try to be.” “No girl can offer enough to a real player. Playing women is a game, which provides a player with a fix, to alleviate his neediness.” "A player lies and manipulates, to attain his end goal, which is usually getting into the girl's pants. The Good Man attracts women without hurting them." "The player plays with women like they are toys. He plays with his toy. Then he throws it away and gets another one. This is different from the "genuinely good guy". Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Why don't you just rephrase that too horny and aggressive men for horney women ? Nope. Because if there's no nice guy with good personality, intelligence, depth and sincere vibes I'm getting, there will be no . To rephrase in that way would imply I might sleep with a horny jerk or player just because I'm horny. That is definitely not the case. Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 Well anything could happen sometime. What matters is what does happen most of the time. And you can't really be confident and assertive with people without being essentially a jerk to a large degree. It's not being a jerk. It's just knowing when to disagree. A "jerk" is disrespectful. He treats women like they're below him. A "weak nice guy" is overly respectful. He treats women like they're better than him. A "genuinely good MAN" treats women the SAME as him. Not worse than him. And not better than him. For he knows that she is only human. She is no slave and she is no goddess. She is woman. And he loves her as so. Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 It's not being a jerk. It's just knowing when to disagree. A "jerk" is disrespectful. He treats women like they're below him. A "weak nice guy" is overly respectful. He treats women like they're better than him. A "genuinely good MAN" treats women the SAME as him. Not worse than him. And not better than him. For he knows that she is only human. She is no slave and she is no goddess. She is woman. And he loves her as so. So why are you a fomer nice guy?? Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 (edited) It's not being a jerk. It's just knowing when to disagree. A "jerk" is disrespectful. He treats women like they're below him. A "weak nice guy" is overly respectful. He treats women like they're better than him. A "genuinely good MAN" treats women the SAME as him. Not worse than him. And not better than him. For he knows that she is only human. She is no slave and she is no goddess. She is woman. And he loves her as so. The "jerk" treats women like dirt. The "weak nice guy" treats women like a princess with the AUTHORITY of a peasant. But the "genuinely good MAN" treats women like a princess with the AUTHORITY of a prince. Edited April 3, 2008 by FormerNiceGuy Link to post Share on other sites
Author FormerNiceGuy Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 So why are you a fomer nice guy?? Because I am myself. Link to post Share on other sites
audrey_1 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Because I am myself. Ah, touche... Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 The "jerk" treats women like dirt. The "weak nice guy" treats women like a princess with the AUTHORITY of a peasant. But the "genuinely good MAN" treats women like a princess with the AUTHORITY of a prince. Ok I'm just going with what you're saying and not necessarily agreeing with treating a girl like a princess regrdless of the wuthority you do it with, and I'm just focusing on the "authority" aspect. Would you agree that if a man wasn't born with the authority of a prince and if he was being himself he'd act more with authority of a peasant, Now do you believe that a man should change and act with the authority of a prince or not? A lot of people on here are basically saying if you're a peasant stay a peasant, becoming a prince is not being yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
TheFonz Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 So why are you a fomer nice guy?? That's like asking a girl why was she a former "slut". Which remeinds me, some people should follow their own advice more. If you are a "slvt" you shouldn't try to act like you're not one. Just be yourself. And I use the term "slvt" for descriptive purpose, I don't necessarily have anything against them myself. Actually I like them as long as they keep their word . Link to post Share on other sites
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