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I think this says it all...."YOU" need the financial support.......

I need the financial support that he should have been paying since the beginning. Why anyone on here thinks he should get off scott free is beyond me!
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vanilla chai
You are correct.

 

However, they will take into account the fact that their household has two financial providers whereas my household only has one, me, and I am in school full-time living off of my credit cards.

 

 

Guess what? go get a job. You chose to stay at home and not have any income,yet you want your mm to support you?

 

The child support is for your child not for you.

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Never_Again
See...that is my whole point...the only "fair share" your son will ever get is what you get for him.

 

Don't look for a man to do it for you.

 

Grow the hell up & take care of your kid. While being a single mother, there is no "fair Share".

 

 

It's anything but.

 

Oh, I am a grown woman, sweetie pie. No need to tell me to grow up.

 

HE needs to grow up and take responsibility for his actions. Enough said.

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Never_Again
You.

Had.

A .

Child.

 

The only thing "due" to him is what you can give him.

This is your kid...it is never gonna be anybody else's.

 

Why aren't you grasping this?

 

Are you that dense? Yes, he is my child. But he is ALSO his child as well. What can't you understand about that? I CHOSE to continue the pregnancy but he CHOSE to have sex with me which resulted in a pregnancy.

 

And now my child IS due his fair share of xmms income.

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Never_Again
Guess what? go get a job. You chose to stay at home and not have any income,yet you want your mm to support you?

 

The child support is for your child not for you.

 

I have a part-time job, thanks. I am also in school full-time.

 

I do ANYTHING but "stay home." Are you kidding me? The only time I stayed home was the first few months of his life.

 

I know the child support is for him. I buy his diapers, his food, his shelter, his clothes. EVERYTHING that child has is because of me and ALL I MEANT TO SAY on here is the father has a LEGAL OBLIGATION to pay HIS share in the child-rearing expenses.

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Never_Again

Obviously this thread has gotten a bit out of control. Any time I have feelings of anger or anything towards xmm, I come on here and vent about it. Well, that's what I did here.

 

Now that I have thought about the situation, let me say what I should have said in the beginning.

 

I have been taking care of ALL of my son's needs (both emotional, financial, and otherwise) since I became pregnant. I am in school full-time, bettering myself so I can get an amazing job when I am finished (most likely making at least $200k a year, if my calculations are correct) and I am also working part-time. I do, however, live mostly off of my credit cards.

 

My only real problem is the fact that xMM is currently getting off scott-free and not providing any kind of support (well, so minimal that it pretty much counts as nothing) to our child. YES, I chose to have this child. Because that was the ONLY choice for me. I do not believe in abortion and I couldn't have lived with myself giving him up. This is what God called me to do and I am doing it.

 

We live a very great and blessed life. However, things are a bit of a struggle sometimes financially because I am doing this all on my own.

 

Whether he is married or NOT, it doesn't matter. He has a legal financial obligation to pay a certain percentage of what he makes to my son. I would be happy if it went straight to my son's savings account! No, I do not want it for MYSELF. I want it to pay for child-rearing expenses or directly into his savings account.

 

I got on here originally because I, admittedly, was a little pissed that I found out about some MAJOR recent purchases when he was telling me he couldn't even afford to make ends meet or keep his house. Which was obviously a lie if he was making purchases like that. But that is truly neither here nor there. I shouldn't care about what purchases they make, correct. And I usually don't. All I TRULY care about is that my son gets what IS due to him. xMM made a choice to have sex with me just as much as I made the choice to keep my son. And now we will both have that financial "burden" until he is 18.

 

And, let me say once more, I want nothing to do with the wife's money. I DO respect her and I feel awful for what she has been put through and what she has to live with every day. All I want, all I truly want, is for my son to get a certain percentage of xMM's money that the courts will determine. Whatever the courts order to be the right amount, I will be happy with. Just as long as he is actually taking responsibility... just as I have since I became pregnant.

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Never_Again
I think this says it all...."YOU" need the financial support.......

 

What I obviously meant was "I need the financial support for my son so I can have help with his expenses." Give me a break. This is truly ridiculous.

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I have a part-time job, thanks. I am also in school full-time.

 

I do ANYTHING but "stay home." Are you kidding me? The only time I stayed home was the first few months of his life.

 

I know the child support is for him. I buy his diapers, his food, his shelter, his clothes. EVERYTHING that child has is because of me and ALL I MEANT TO SAY on here is the father has a LEGAL OBLIGATION to pay HIS share in the child-rearing expenses.

 

Yup, you are correct Never_Again. Maybe people are reacting (as I did) to the back story, how your son came to be. Obviously neither of you (MM or You) stepped up to positively prevent making a baby. It's possible that folks are angry about that.

 

That's past history now. It's done, and everyone needs to chill (I did) I learned enough from the thread to realize that you want whats best for your kid. You aren't happy that the MM is skating.

 

I didn't see your side of it until I put my own daughter into your story, and examined how I would feel about the situation. If it was my daughter that made a child with a financially capable geezer.. I would haved hired a midevil 25 foot shark to take a bite out of his arse, .. on her and the childs behalf. Once he was suitably tarnished and garnished I would relax and become the jolly supportive Grandpa spoiling them both.

 

I've made lots of mistakes in my life and overcome most of them, I'm dilligently working on some of the others.

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Yup, you are correct Never_Again. Maybe people are reacting (as I did) to the back story, how your son came to be. Obviously neither of you (MM or You) stepped up to positively prevent making a baby. It's possible that folks are angry about that.

 

That's past history now. It's done, and everyone needs to chill (I did) I learned enough from the thread to realize that you want whats best for your kid. You aren't happy that the MM is skating.

 

I didn't see your side of it until I put my own daughter into your story, and examined how I would feel about the situation. If it was my daughter that made a child with a financially capable geezer.. I would haved hired a midevil 25 foot shark to take a bite out of his arse, .. on her and the childs behalf. Once he was suitably tarnished and garnished I would relax and become the jolly supportive Grandpa spoiling them both.

 

I've made lots of mistakes in my life and overcome most of them, I'm dilligently working on some of the others.

 

Thank you for the support, Lakeside. I can see where people might come up with those conclusions based on how my son came to be.

 

I really am doing everything in my power to better myself FOR my son so he can live a happy, comfortable life. Since I am working so hard to provide for him, I just believe strongly that his father should step up to the plate and pay his fair share as well. That's all I want....

 

We all make mistakes and we are all works in progress. :)

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Well, WHOSE choice was it to continue the pregnancy? I'm SURE it wasn't his. And he didn't really GET to be a part of that decision, now did he?

 

So yes, the one who OPTS to continue the pregnancy has bought her ticket.

 

 

There is one more thing I really want to say on here because it makes me sick.

 

People are basically telling me I got what was coming to me (meaning the COMPLETE financial responsibility) because I "chose" to continue the pregnancy.

 

Without beginning a huge abortion, etc. debate I would just like to say that it really sickens and disheartens me to hear people speak of "choosing" to continue a pregnancy like "choosing" what I would like to eat for dinner. A child is NOT a choice in my eyes. If BOTH parties got themselves in a situation where an unplanned child was conceived then they BOTH need to be held responsible for that child.

 

I am just boggled by the fact that people are getting on my case for "choosing" to continue my pregnancy. I'm sorry I didn't do the "right thing" in your eyes and kill my baby.

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Guess what? go get a job. You chose to stay at home and not have any income,yet you want your mm to support you?

 

The child support is for your child not for you.

 

 

 

I think everyone here knows how I feel about A, but she is in school. That means she isn't sitting around eating bon bons all day.

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Last evening Never Again accused me of being a "Fat Old Republican" which wasn't far from the truth, at one time I was a fat early middle aged Republican... with some cavets.

 

On abortion, I'm saddened by the subject in general. As a man educated in the hard sciences it's absolutely obvious to me that "life" begins when the sperm and egg combine and begin to replicate. That's a fact, really not open to serious discussion. It what results "human" immediately? There is where the discussion becomes problematical. I personally don't know the answer. I also don't know when those replicating cells can eventually can be classed as "human life".

 

I do know a fine lady, formerly a co-worker who was unable to carry a pregnancy past the 5th month. Medical techniques improved until she now has 4 healthy and happy, completely normal children, all for of which were born after 5 or less months of pregnancy. This would have been impossible as few as 30 years ago.

 

After writing the above, I also believe with conviction that women in general have the right of soverignty over their bodies. Until a developing life inside them can be born and live without extroidianry efforts, I believe the option of abortion should be an option for women. Once the growing child is viable outside the womb, the situation changes, (in my opinion) and I would like to see the laws changed to protect that life, ending once and for all 3d trimester abortions completely.

 

I have believed the above for over two decades. Believe me, it didn't make my then fellow Republicans happy when we debated the subject.

 

Then there is adoption. I know that at my age I could still raise a child, not as well as a younger man (no throwing balls, or white water rafting) but I could do it still. This condition will be in play for another 10 years or so.

 

If my daughter or son had a child, and were taken by disease or accident I would step into the void in their stead. Other younger people, or couples who are childless do the same for strangers. I believe that is very couragious. I wish there were more willing to do so.

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Without beginning a huge abortion, etc. debate I would just like to say that it really sickens and disheartens me to hear people speak of "choosing" to continue a pregnancy like "choosing" what I would like to eat for dinner. A child is NOT a choice in my eyes. If BOTH parties got themselves in a situation where an unplanned child was conceived then they BOTH need to be held responsible for that child.

 

I am just boggled by the fact that people are getting on my case for "choosing" to continue my pregnancy. I'm sorry I didn't do the "right thing" in your eyes and kill my baby.

 

 

Hi N-A

 

I was moved to write to say that I agree with you on your views stated above, and I too think that people throw around too casually this whole "choice" concept like it is about picking out the color of a sweater, or as you say, what to have for dinner.

 

Years ago I used to be far more "open-minded" about the idea, and then that slowly started to change, I became sickened by the attitudes of people who regard such action as nothing more serious than a flu shot. An attitude which I find to be part and parcel of this easy-come easy-go society...

 

Don't worry about the posters. As you know, there are all kinds of personality types here atop experiences which result some posters who are jaded, some tolerant, and some still searching for answers. So don't take each response to heart. It does help however to see how your situation is viewed, so you might weigh the more intelligent answers carefully. The advice here can help.

 

I am sympathetic with your plight. I do not want to fan the flames here but I do think that there might be a pointed effort on the part of the H or the W or both to deprive you of some money not just through the routine purchases and luxuries that a couple might wish for themselves, but purchases made with the specific point of sending you a message. That is, he or she wants you to "get the hint" that consideration of you is and will remain a third, fourth, fifth etc thing on their minds....hence the "crumbs". This will not change unless you go through the legal route. He is not going to wake up one day and say, Gee I have been acting really horribly. I just wish you to be aware of the fact that this hurt and pain you are being caused is, in my view, deliberate.

 

That said, I would put this matter to rest (or at least calm it in your mind a bit) by just organizing your plan of attack the legal way. Getting upset, asking Why? And some emotionally wrought emails might just compound your frustration. He will only change if forced to, and only the law at this point can do that.

 

xo

OE

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Well, apparently I was rude and two of my comments were flagged so they suspended my posting rights. I tried to make two comments to no avail.

 

I apologize if I came across as rude or if I was too defensive. You have to remember this is my life and it's a very serious/touchy subject.

 

It was never my intention to belittle or be mean to anybody and I apologize if I was.

 

Anyway, I just wanted to thank everyone for their comments and insight. I appreciate all of it. I think it's time for me to bow out of the Loveshack world for a little while and regain my composure. Outside of Loveshack, I really do have a very happy and fulfilling (albeit not very financially fruitful) life. I just get on here when I am upset about xmm and let off some steam. I don't mean from the bottom of my heart all of the mean things I say about him.

 

I would like to say, in closing, that I will be taking my son's father to court very soon. The court will determine the correct amount that he should be paying. I trust the law to make the right decision. And, again, I want nothing to do with the wife's money. At all.

 

Thanks, again.

 

Good luck, NA - I hope you get what you and your son deserve!

:)

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Yeah, well I bet you wouldn't agree with him if you were a single mother who didn't purposely get pregnant and had to do everything on your own. I don't mind raising her on my own, but I need (and legally deserve) some help from him. More than a few dollars every now and then.

 

Well you obvioulsy didn't purposefully NOT get pregnant either. You sound so angry at him, like you WANT him to go to jail. That's not good for your child! You also sound so angry at his wife, and I think we should just remove her from this conversation as it was never her decision for the two of you to be together or create a child. Therefore she should not have to play any part in paying your child's support.

 

This sounds to me like it's more about you wanting him to "pay" than it is about your child. Maybe you need to accept a little more personal responsbility in this, in my opinion. As some have pointed out, you already knew MM was a sleazy lying cheater, and you chose to NOT purposefully not get pregnant with him, and you chose to have his child. Yet you expect him to act nice and follow the rules when it comes to child support?? I'm not saying he shouldn't have to pay child support or that men shouldn't have to be legally responsible for the children they take part in creating. But I don't think that is the issue here -- it sounds to me like you're mad at him and you want him to pay. But you are the one who chose to be with a married man and you are the one who ultimately chose to have a child, so maybe you need to work more and go to school less for awhile if all your child's expenses are ending up on your credit cards. Living a life in debt isn't good for your child either, when there is his own college education to start saving for! :)

 

BTW I'm not sugarcoating my words because you obviously aren't surgarcoating your "livid" words. You sound tough enough to handle my honest opinion, so here it is: forget about MM for awhile and concentrate on yourself and your child. Just calm down a little bit and see what the courts decide. Good luck with getting the child support you want. He will have to pay whatever the courts order if he wants to keep his parental rights. So maybe all of this anger is premature considering he's not even violating a child support order yet.

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Well I obviously joined this thread late, and these topics have already been covered. So never mind. I should have read all the ten pages before I posted my response. Good luck N-A.

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Actually Never, none of this was any of our business (other than those of us who are taxpayers, and then only tangentially) until you made it our business with your self described "rants".

 

I find it interesting that you state that "your child" (yours except in responsibility to support) is in a "very stable home environment and is happy/healthy". I assume this means to you that a natural relationship with a genetic father as a role model is superfullous, of no value.

 

What is "your" child doing when you are away at school and thus not able to be a full time Mom? Who is taking care of him? Who is paying to take care of him? A government program? Who is feeding him? WIC, Welfare? School Loans? Grants? How many of my tax dollars are being spent to pay for your miniscule responsibility in his birth?

 

Of course I am a man. As a man I knew that when two children were born into the Union between my then wife and I that they would be my legal and financial responsibility as long as they lived. I knew that I would never ask others, people outside my family, or the government to contribute to their support. I worked every day for many years, later six plus days a week to accomplish this, in addition I was pleased to spend hours a day as a parent, sharing time with my children, being their father.

 

It sounds like you are still a "girl" Never Again. A girl that expects, and allows others to make the contributions you should be making but are not able to due to your "schooling" and other committments. I would be willing to bet real money that you have time for recreation with your other "friends", (presumably no other MM). Allowing to escape "for a time" from the responsibilities of Student and Mom... I wonder what's that's like... As a full time dad, living with a full time mom, taking care of two full time kids, it took years to be able to afford a luxury like that, both financially and emotionally. Hmmmm.

 

 

How many of your tax dollars are funding bailouts and the iraq war, other countries welfare programs, corporate welfare etc? Instead you pick on a single mom. I find that laughable after all the money our drunken sailors in washington are wasting away!!!!LOLOL!!!

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Actually Never, none of this was any of our business (other than those of us who are taxpayers, and then only tangentially) until you made it our business with your self described "rants".

 

I find it interesting that you state that "your child" (yours except in responsibility to support) is in a "very stable home environment and is happy/healthy". I assume this means to you that a natural relationship with a genetic father as a role model is superfullous, of no value.

 

What is "your" child doing when you are away at school and thus not able to be a full time Mom? Who is taking care of him? Who is paying to take care of him? A government program? Who is feeding him? WIC, Welfare? School Loans? Grants? How many of my tax dollars are being spent to pay for your miniscule responsibility in his birth?

 

Of course I am a man. As a man I knew that when two children were born into the Union between my then wife and I that they would be my legal and financial responsibility as long as they lived. I knew that I would never ask others, people outside my family, or the government to contribute to their support. I worked every day for many years, later six plus days a week to accomplish this, in addition I was pleased to spend hours a day as a parent, sharing time with my children, being their father.

 

It sounds like you are still a "girl" Never Again. A girl that expects, and allows others to make the contributions you should be making but are not able to due to your "schooling" and other committments. I would be willing to bet real money that you have time for recreation with your other "friends", (presumably no other MM). Allowing to escape "for a time" from the responsibilities of Student and Mom... I wonder what's that's like... As a full time dad, living with a full time mom, taking care of two full time kids, it took years to be able to afford a luxury like that, both financially and emotionally. Hmmmm.

 

You sound a little too bitter and emotionally involved here.. is this similar to one of your son's screwups?? LOL!!! If only parents adequately taught their sons decency(integrity and morals) and responsibility (how to place a condom on their willy), there wouldn't be so many "welfare moms". YOu are hilarious, but it all comes down to the fact that most problems in this society are routed to MEN! Look at all the MALE criminals your tax dollars are paying for! You are really one hell of an ignoramus. And I bet you don't care much about prisoners getting a free ride on your supposedly highly contributed tax dollars! Let's just pin all of this government's problems on "welfare moms". God you really are hilarious!

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See, that's the part I find unfair. They BOTH had sex, but only the woman can choose whether to have the kid and raise it, or to get an abortion or adopt it out.

 

The man has NO say. If she decides to have it, the man just has to go along with it. I just know if it were reversed, it would stick in my craw a bit. Say the birth control fails, woman isn't on any but says it's safe, they have unsafe sex, any of these situations can happen, and the man will end up being a victim of the system.

 

And I was raised by a single mom. Whose father SOMETIMES paid support. So I'm looking at this from that angle as well. ANyway, that being said, I empathize with Never_Again's position to an extent, and this abstract "man/woman child support consent issue" is sort of off topic... I feel bad discussing it in her thread.... She needs our support right now.

 

Sorry, Nev.

 

 

Well... let's see here. You want your basic human rights at stake over a child? If you think women should be forced to butcher their insides to get rid of a child, how far behind are mandatory vasectomies and castrations etc when your wife doesn't want any more kids?

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Congratulations that is the reasons the programs exist. You succeeded, you are paying back your support, via taxation. I am happy to have paid into a system used properly.

 

And... you are proud of your success, which is without doubt the most important part of your story.

 

The assistance was available to you. You used it to better your situation. It came from your fellow citizens without strings attached. You didn't "deserve it" or "earn it" , it was just there. There are no "deserves" without hard work and effort.

 

 

And the same won't take place with the original poster because????? OH, you'll moan and rant until she graduates- that makes sense! LOL!

 

You do know that most kids apply for gov assistance with loans and grants for college, right?? ??? LOL

 

"She has made choices that affect all of us fellow citizens, and made them alone."

 

Yes and not much else affect us CITIZENS except this welfare problem.. oh and she made all of these decisions alone! LOL!

You know why your son is a screwup right? You keep bailing him out and not allowing him to take responsibility for his actions! You created the demon- who knows maybe US TAXPAYERS are paying for your inept parenting in some way.

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I can't even believe half the crap I have read in this thread. This guy, to even call him that, chose to have an affair got another woman pregnant and now she AND her son are supposed to wither up and die out sight out mind? What a disgusting world we live in, just reading some of the comments in this thread makes me wonder how some people can go around and call themselves morally straight or good people when they make such heinous comments. BLEEEEEEEEEEEEECH!

 

 

 

Never_Again you have EVERY right to be upset and angry at your exMM and I hope to god that the courts make him pay what he is responsible for because the fact of the matter is, like Lakesidedream said, "life" begins when the sperm and egg combine and begin to replicate" it is absolultey ridiculous to even debate the abortion topic when the baby was made end of story. Like it or not that baby was made and the mother chose to allow the baby to continue to grow and eventually come to light as any decent human being WOULD. The father owes that baby financial support, there is no way around it as far as I see it. Seeing as he won't be there for him emotionally and physically he owes it to the baby to support him financially. And as for the argument about how much money the W will now have to cut back on at the movies, I say "if you don't like it you can always leave the cheater and find a man that will spring up for the extra $10 to make a $20 and go to the movies" the point is she choose to stay with the man that got another woman pregnant so now she will also have to deal with the WHOLE NEW SET OF PROBLEMS THIS MAN has introduced into her life. It's unfortuante for her but it is what it is and she has to eventually accept it, for her own peace of mind and well being.

The OW made the choice to have the baby but that baby was made 50% by the MM and no one held a gun to his head to screw someone else and to not put a lid on his diiick the night that baby was conceived.

 

Never_Again I hope you keep posting and again, you have every right to be angry don't let all the hyper criticals get you down, obviously your situation won't fly with some and that's understandable but that's just the way the cookie crumbles. Life is not perfect and is filled with unfair and less than ideal situations, if they cant handle that it's their problem not yours. But because they are entitled to their opinions it won't deter them to make the disgusting comments that I have read in here, try to look the other way and DO press for that child support don't back down and feel confident that you are not doing anything out of the norm in expecting his side of responsibility in all this.

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A woman can still get pregnant with the withdraw method.

 

 

Well then maybe he should have had enough common sense to put a lid on it, what is he 13? No, correction, a 13 yr old boy problably has more common sense than a married man in the heat of passion in an affair.

 

 

Like someone else said, you do the deed you pay. End of story.

 

The OW is paying!! She is mothering a child whom she will someday have to sit down and look him in the eyes and explain why he does not have a father and why he came about, I think that is sentence enough for her, not to mention every time she looks at the child it will remind her of the biggest mistake of her life, HIS FATHER. But that still didn't stop her from trying to give this little beating heart a chance at life and some would still argue the right thing to do would be to kill the child? What a disgusting world this is and reading things like that just help me reaffirm just how NO ONE in this world is untouched by the selfish gene, everyone is selfish in their own way!! Yeah sure they are so decent they may never have an affiar with a married person but they are all too quick to say, go ahead kill a baby because it ain't convenient for all. WHAT JOKE!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

It's just money, why are so many people so protective of this guy's money? Money is thrown around each day in extremely frivolous things and yet when it comes to throwing a few bucks to OWN UP and MAN UP (as so many LOVE to use that expression around here) to his doing, then people start calling the "not his responsibilty" card. YES IT IS his resposnibility he MADE that child.

 

What a disgusting, materialistic and egocentric society we live in, if you think that having an affair is indecent and disgusting so is telling a man to turn his back on a child HE MADE. No one is asking him to be father to the child, which clearly he won't because he is THAT kind of human being. A person who won't fork out a few bills of cash to ensure THEIR mistake is at least taken care of in a very minimal way, is a person who does not deserve to be even called human.

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The man has NO say. If she decides to have it, the man just has to go along with it. I just know if it were reversed, it would stick in my craw a bit. Say the birth control fails, woman isn't on any but says it's safe, they have unsafe sex, any of these situations can happen, and the man will end up being a victim of the system.

 

 

The man has a say, WEAR A CONDOM. And if even that fails maybe this will teach men not to sleep around so much with anyone and anything that crosses their path, in terms of all the one night stands that men have. If people charished sex for more than just drunken one night stands, far less people would be born out of sheer stupidity and mistake.

 

A man always has a say, if you are going to sleep with a woman you barely know and on top of it you are not going to protect yourself UNDERSTAND that pregnancy is a very possible option. If you don't understand that you are clearly not mature enough to be having sex.

Also understand that if you get a woman pregnant you pretty much have no say in terms of whether she gets to keep it or not because ultimately it is her choice.

 

why are these concepts so darn hard for people to understand? Instead of all the whining about how unfair it all is, why not accept that this is the reality of how things ARE so what are you going to do to protect yourself?

 

It's like a woman complaining about how men get to have all the sex they want and never have to worry about getting pregnant but women can't. Whining about that will get you nowhere, it is how nature designed it either accept it or go back to get your diaper changed because clearly a person who can't accept that has not fully entered adulthood yet.

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This sounds to me like it's more about you wanting him to "pay" than it is about your child. Maybe you need to accept a little more personal responsbility in this, in my opinion. As some have pointed out, you already knew MM was a sleazy lying cheater, and you chose to NOT purposefully not get pregnant with him, and you chose to have his child. Yet you expect him to act nice and follow the rules when it comes to child support?? I'm not saying he shouldn't have to pay child support or that men shouldn't have to be legally responsible for the children they take part in creating. But I don't think that is the issue here -- it sounds to me like you're mad at him and you want him to pay. But you are the one who chose to be with a married man and you are the one who ultimately chose to have a child, so maybe you need to work more and go to school less for awhile if all your child's expenses are ending up on your credit cards. Living a life in debt isn't good for your child either, when there is his own college education to start saving for! :)

 

 

 

Gees talk about overanalizing here, she just wants him to pay for child support, period. Her reasons are hers and I don't think it is anyone's place to dissect that, she has every right to want child support from the baby's father. It's pretty simple really.

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