what's the problem with stem cell research?

[DutchGuy]

The embryo is the offspring of two parents so yes they are parents.

Do you think the 'father' should have a saying in whether a girl takes the morning after pill?

Technically, all humans are parasites. We don't exactly photosynthesize our own energy. The parasite you call an embryo is as seperate from the mother and you are from your food.

This topic has everything to do with abortion.

I'm no parasite, I am a mutualist. The circle of life. By living (and eating) I allow billions of micro organisms to live inside me. If I die, I'm food for others.

 

An embryo is not and will never be seperate from the carrier.

Jesus reached out to everyone including prostitutes, tax collectors, leppers, the possessed, the poor, and even the rich.

Salvation is not a birthright, it isn't won through popular vote, and it can't be bought.

I don't care for Jesus. God (don't care about that either) killed millions (billions) because he didn't agree how they were living.

I don't remember embryotic stem cell research being outlawed in the US. I am pretty sure it isn't being funded with government dollars.

 

Put enough rockets motors on a brick, and you can make it fly. That doesn't make it practical.

It is if you are looking for a jet engined brick.

If this matter was so important to god and jesus, they should have mentioned it in the bible.

[FleshNBones]

Do you think the 'father' should have a saying in whether a girl takes the morning after pill?

Do you see what I mean? The topic of embryonic stem cell research is tied into abortion. It is far more political than scientific.

I'm no parasite, I am a mutualist. The circle of life. By living (and eating) I allow billions of micro organisms to live inside me. If I die, I'm food for others.

 

An embryo is not and will never be seperate from the carrier.

You are a parasite. You are contributing little if anything to the plant world.

 

Were you ever any embryo? At that stage, they aren't self-sufficient. If allowed to reach adulthood, they can tell you how wrong you are.

I don't care for Jesus. God (don't care about that either) killed millions (billions) because he didn't agree how they were living.

You seem to think an embryo is part of a mother's body, and she is free to kill it. We were created by God, in a world created by God so why do you have a problem when he takes lives. Those lives rightfully belong to him.

It is if you are looking for a jet engined brick.

If this matter was so important to god and jesus, they should have mentioned it in the bible.

You missed the point. You can build and rebuild a city like New Orleans which is below sea level, but that doesn't make it practical.

What I'm saying is embryonic stem cell research is impractical in addition to being immoral.

 

The embryo is alive, and it wouldn't grow or develop if it weren't. It is not an inanimate object like a rock. Claiming an embryo is not alive (purely political on your part) is false.

 

I am starting to wonder what factors influenced your viewpoint. You don't seem to believe in the role or existence of parents so I guess all offspring are children of the state. A vagina licenses a woman to discard an offspring killing it in the process.

Are you a communist?

[DutchGuy]

Do you see what I mean? The topic of embryonic stem cell research is tied into abortion. It is far more political than scientific.

You are a parasite. You are contributing little if anything to the plant world.

The political viewpoints towards abortion as well as stem cell research are heavily influenced by religion. And whenever religion comes into play, science gets involved. I don't say science necissarely has to be opposed to religious vieuws, but when religion takes a standpoint, there is a need for reason to evaluate that opinion.

 

About plants, I produce CO2.

Were you ever any embryo? At that stage, they aren't self-sufficient. If allowed to reach adulthood, they can tell you how wrong you are.

You seem to think an embryo is part of a mother's body, and she is free to kill it. We were created by God, in a world created by God so why do you have a problem when he takes lives. Those lives rightfully belong to him.

You missed the point. You can build and rebuild a city like New Orleans which is below sea level, but that doesn't make it practical.

What I'm saying is embryonic stem cell research is impractical in addition to being immoral.

The parts that make up my body were at one point embryonic parts. But that what makes me, and if you say "were YOU ever an embryo" you refer to my person, came after the embryonic stage. Do you consider yourself ever to have been a sperm cell?

 

I do think the embryo is a part of the carrier and therefore the carrier has the right to have it removed.

 

I don't have a problem with people dying, because it is a natural element of life. I'm just saying that your god does kill people based on their social status. But now I'm confused, you think god has the right to kill what he created, but you feel weird about people that abort their pregnancy? So people heve no rights over their own creation?

 

You are aware that 25% of the Netherlands lies below sea level right? And that Dutch engineers are designing a structure to prevent floods in New Orleans right now? The thing whith the Dutch is that we try to find a solution as opposed to sit back and say "It can never be done".

 

'God created the Dutch, but the Dutch created the Netherlands.'

The embryo is alive, and it wouldn't grow or develop if it weren't. It is not an inanimate object like a rock. Claiming an embryo is not alive (purely political on your part) is false.

A tumor grows and developes. But that does not, even containing human DNA, mean that it is a human being. Ofcourse an embryo can become a living human being and a tumor can't, but it IS not. If you kill a person they can't convict you for killing a potential policeman (in which case you punishment will be more severe), even if that person was going to be a policeman. We live in the present, not in the future.

I am starting to wonder what factors influenced your viewpoint. You don't seem to believe in the role or existence of parents so I guess all offspring are children of the state. A vagina licenses a woman to discard an offspring killing it in the process.

Are you a communist?

Hahaha, you've got to be kidding me. No, I'm a ter'rist.

I do believe in parents, but I don't believe in being the parent of an embryo. Like you're not the parent of your sperm or egg cells. And if I may flip this thing around on you, it is the religious government that makes offspring (embryos) 'children of the state', because you think that not the woman should be the proprietor of her emryo, but the state.