2sunny Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Most if not all of us sometimes behave in ways that put us into that category of what the opposite sex doesn't want. It's just a question of degree. Some men do seem to deride femininity altogether - extending that attitude towards deriding women on account of their femininity. If they're determined to hook up with women regardless of their animosity towards them, they probably do best with "one of the guys" type women who are similarly averse to girliness. seriously - this is a twisted view of what should be potential fun between two people... Link to post Share on other sites
Author Taramere Posted June 7, 2008 Author Share Posted June 7, 2008 seriously - this is a twisted view of what should be potential fun between two people... I wasn't even talking about facials there. I was addressing JS' points. Anyway, who says the twisted elements and underlying conflicts between the sexes aren't sometimes important ingredients in fun? Link to post Share on other sites
Trialbyfire Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 People need to define their own sexuality v. allowing the media and pop culture to define it for them. What one person finds stimulating, another might find debasing or demeaning. What's important is to find the right match for what you find stimulating and work from there. Relax and enjoy. There's a reason there's a double digit percentile of women who can't relax sufficiently to have orgasm. Some of this might be due to physical reasons but I suspect most aren't. Link to post Share on other sites
MaxManwell Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Any sex that is degrading to women is better than regular sex. Get over it ladies seriously, its not personal its physical. We still respect you we just want to degrade you at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites
MaxManwell Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 If you refer to most people's stance on having someone cum in their faces, most are saying that they don't like it or don't prefer it. It doesn't mean that anyone is saying that it's an act that no one should do or enjoy doing. The members who are negating this stance, are suggesting there's something wrong with not wanting to do something that you don't want to do, alluding to other members being uptight or not sexually experimental enough. If judgments are being passed, it's with the latter crowd. Anything is alright if the woman agrees to do it. If you are suggesting that women are not capable of making that choice you are suggesting a lot more about women than is fair. Why would a woman decide not to respect herself ? and why should that be a problem of anyone's but her own. Link to post Share on other sites
Jersey Shortie Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Any sex that is degrading to women is better than regular sex. Get over it ladies seriously, its not personal its physical. We still respect you we just want to degrade you at the same time Do you watch alot of porn? I would bet that you do. Actually, I think it is very personal. There is something deeper going on where you can see so many mainstreem sexual acts where men are phyiscally degrading women. I think it says something very base about what some men feel for women. And it isn't very promising. Why don't YOU get over it. It's that "get over it ladies" kind of comments from men that is complete crap. It shows a complete lack of wanting to care and understand where women are coming from. THink about a situation that really bugs you and then think about your woman, or women in general telling you basically to shut up and "get over it" and just be degraded because men like it. Anyway, and the heck can you want to degrade someone and still respect them at the same time? Oxymoron anyone. Link to post Share on other sites
Jilly Bean Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 His face, or mine? Link to post Share on other sites
MaxManwell Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Do you watch alot of porn? I would bet that you do. Actually, I think it is very personal. There is something deeper going on where you can see so many mainstreem sexual acts where men are phyiscally degrading women. I think it says something very base about what some men feel for women. And it isn't very promising. Why don't YOU get over it. It's that "get over it ladies" kind of comments from men that is complete crap. It shows a complete lack of wanting to care and understand where women are coming from. THink about a situation that really bugs you and then think about your woman, or women in general telling you basically to shut up and "get over it" and just be degraded because men like it. Anyway, and the heck can you want to degrade someone and still respect them at the same time? Oxymoron anyone. Where are Women coming from ? I don't think they even know. Since when did Women start getting a say in what Men want to do in the bedroom ? If you don't like it just say 'NO' and the case is settled. Otherwise stop trying to control us. Link to post Share on other sites
JerseyShortie Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Since when did Women start getting a say in what Men want to do in the bedroom ? If you don't like it just say 'NO' and the case is settled. Otherwise stop trying to control us. And yet, isn't that was domination and dominating acts are about? "Control". The irony in your statement isn't missed. Where are Women coming from ? I don't think they even know. That is the second statement you made that shows a lack or truly wanting to hear other women out and hear their needs. Instead of really listening you have reduced the opinions of women to "they don't even know what they want, why should I care what they want"...basically at least that is how it seems to me. Link to post Share on other sites
mental_traveller Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Actually, I think it is very personal. There is something deeper going on where you can see so many mainstreem sexual acts where men are phyiscally degrading women. I think it says something very base about what some men feel for women. And it isn't very promising. What about homosexuals who like "degrading" sexual acts? What does it say about how gay people feel about gay people? Does it mean they are homophobic or self-loathing? See, this logic doesn't make any sense. What a person finds hot in the bedroom has NOTHING to do with what they feel outside the bedroom. Women can have rape fantasies without wanting to actually be raped. Men can have fantasies about talking trash to a woman in bed, without actually wanting to put women down in real life. Link to post Share on other sites
mental_traveller Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 And yet, isn't that was domination and dominating acts are about? "Control". The irony in your statement isn't missed. Consensual control is different from unconsensual control. What about women who want to do dominating acts to men. Does that make them man-haters? Link to post Share on other sites
JerseyShortie Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 What about homosexuals who like "degrading" sexual acts? What does it say about how gay people feel about gay people? Does it mean they are homophobic or self-loathing? Consensual control is different from unconsensual control. What about women who want to do dominating acts to men. Does that make them man-haters? I can see your point actually. Maybe not all guys who want to dominate and do dominating acts with women loathe them or want to truly degrade them. But some of the stuff that I have been exposed to in mainstream porn seems like it treats women like garbage. It is still disheartening to see and does put a certain amount of distrust in men and their true feelings and intentions are towards women. I don't think I am being so farfetched in having these questions and I think alot of women struggle with the same thing. I also tend to be of the mindset that things that two people do privately that actually care about each other is a totally different playing field then random men and women treating each other like sexual props for their own satisfaction. And when you have something like porn, that showcases that explotation to the degree it does today, and you have generations of boys and even girls that grow up on that, it makes for a bad equation. I think we have raised generations of men that are porn co-dependent and there is something really messed up about that. Link to post Share on other sites
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